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747 Carriers Who Have Economy Seats On Upper Deck  
User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 8855 times:

I flew Air Pacific on 744 and the entire upper deck was economy. I have flown 744 on UL 2x trans-pac and it was first or business. I guess the question is what other carries have the upper deck with coach seats.

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User currently offlineCX777FAN From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 8837 times:

I've flown economy on the upper deck of JAL 744s both internationally and on Japanese domestic flights. I'm a big fan of upper deck economy, It somehow feels much more roomy, plus there's luggage storage space along the windows. The smaller cabin often means better inflight service too. (then good service is typical of JAL...)

User currently offlineJustplanecrazy From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 8809 times:

Quoting CX777FAN (Reply 1):

exactly the same impression i got flying cattle class on JAL upper deck.very comfy



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User currently offlineCorsairf/a From France, joined Oct 2000, 373 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 8796 times:

Af will have all eco seats on the upper deck of their B747 with the new cabin layout call NEV.
Corsair B747-300/400 are half J and Y


User currently offlineCX777FAN From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 8775 times:

Another layout that I've enjoyed is Y seats in the nose of the lower deck on AI 743 combi and KE 742. Very quiet and also spacious with no centre row.

User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 4 hours ago) and read 8749 times:
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SA have them on the upper deck, with a greater seat pitch as well - compared to the main deck Y-class.


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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6456 posts, RR: 38
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 4 hours ago) and read 8687 times:

The new configuration of Air NZ will give room for some Premium Economy seats but having a partition between the Business and the Premium Economy will make it look extremely small.


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User currently offlineDTManiac From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 689 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 8568 times:

Iran Air has economy in the upper deck, too. At least I saw that on board of their 747SP.


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User currently offlineMAAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 8566 times:

Air Atlanta operate a few 743s with one-class layouts, so I guess that would include them...


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User currently offlineCo7772wuh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 8540 times:

Quoting CX777FAN (Reply 1):
I've flown economy on the upper deck of JAL 744s both internationally and on Japanese domestic flights. I'm a big fan of upper deck economy, It somehow feels much more roomy, plus there's luggage storage space along the windows. The smaller cabin often means better inflight service too. (then good service is typical of JAL...)



Quoting Justplanecrazy (Reply 2):
exactly the same impression i got flying cattle class on JAL upper deck.very comfy

Agreed .

I was fortunate enough to fly JAL to asia from JFK on the upper deck on miles from AA . Let me tell you it was a blast . The service , seats/pitch , FA's  eyepopping  , food and entertainment were suburb for economy.

Very cozy up there , quiet too ! Best international flight I have ever been on !

JAL  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2083 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8217 times:

Ansett's 744's used to have Y-class seats on their upper deck.

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7434 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8137 times:
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BA used to have World Traveller upstairs on an assorted lot of 747's back in late 80's, early 90's.


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User currently offlineMymiles2go From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7884 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 11):
BA used to have World Traveller upstairs on an assorted lot of 747's back in late 80's, early 90's.

Even up until the summer of 2001...don't remember how much further than that.


User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7878 times:

Quoting Mymiles2go (Reply 12):
BA used to have World Traveller upstairs on an assorted lot of 747's back in late 80's, early 90's.

We were supposed to fly BA economy upper deck in 1999 from BOS to LHR on a 742 classic but at the last minute the switched to a 744. I think most airlines only had it on their classics, not 744s...but i don't know.



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3008 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7757 times:

Swissair had it on their 743s for a while but later reconfigured. I remember sitting in economy on the upper deck on JFK-ZRH in 1988, then in 1995 I sat on the upper deck again on ZRH-JFK but that time it was business class. The only other time I've sat up there in Y class was on JAL, though I know SAA has it as well, as others have mentioned.


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User currently offlineRG828 From Brazil, joined Jan 2004, 582 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7730 times:
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I remember BA and AF 742s having them, though in the early 90s I flew a BA 744 (G-BNLN) that had Y-class on top. It was crowded and messy, people on the emergency rows sitting on the floor playing cards, etc.

Varig had them only on their 747-300 Combis, IIRC.



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User currently offlineTymnBalewne From Bermuda, joined Mar 2005, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7689 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 11):
BA used to have World Traveller upstairs on an assorted lot of 747's back in late 80's, early 90's

Pre-cradle seat (the seat that came before the flat-bed) I think most of the BA 747's had convertible seats upstairs. They could be 3 x 3 economy seats or 2 x 2 Club (super Club/Elizabethan?) seats depending on the need of a particular flight segment.

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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2693 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7610 times:

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 10):
Ansett's 744's used to have Y-class seats on their upper deck.

I thought they only had 747-300s?


User currently offlineSparkingWave From South Korea, joined Jun 2005, 674 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7051 times:

ANA had economy seating on its upper deck 747s between Tokyo and Guam. It was cool to sit up there. But I like the UA Business upper deck much better!

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User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7002 times:

I flew on JAL's 744 JA8901 and JA8902. JA8901 has economy seats on the upper deck but JA8902 doesn't . Probably the aircraft is due for a C or D-check soon.


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User currently offlineFlyingDove From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6525 times:

Two summers ago, LY converted two of their 744s to all-economy configuration. They therefore had economy class upstairs. Kinda cool to visit this usually off-limits zone!

User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1872 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6344 times:
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some of JALs 743s had coach upstairs, i know one of the ones i flew on did, because i sat up there, ship 8177, absolutely heavenly. the small cabin made you feel like you were on your own private airliner, great views and very little noise, i know RAM's 744 also has coach seats upstairs, again because i flew up there. it made a huge difference as the ride from JFK to Morocco was the bumpiest ride i've ever taken in my life, i can't imagine what the ride was like downstairs, but we definitely felt it upstairs, and i don't think you usually feel turbulence up there the same way you do downstairs. funny, though, my mom didn't like it! she thought the cabin was too cramped and she didn't like the side bins. personally, i liked them, because they seem bigger and its alot more convenient, especially if you're in a window seat.


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User currently offlineTheFalcon From Sweden, joined Jun 2005, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6069 times:

In 1991 Swissair had y-class on uper deck. I flew on SR282 from Nairobi to Zurich B747-357 HB-IGG.


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User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6056 times:

Can anyone explain the rationale for upper-deck economy? Why did these airlines choose that layout?


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User currently offlineIrishMD11 From Switzerland, joined Jan 2004, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6016 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 11):
BA used to have World Traveller upstairs on an assorted lot of 747's back in late 80's, early 90's

I flew G-AWNA summer 1995, SEA to LHR, seated top deck. First time up there during flight, and must say that the takeoff roll was very gentle, none of that usual "rattle" that you feel and hear when downstairs and near main gear...

Same bird had brought me back from MIA to LHR in 1986, didn't know that top deck can be so comfy...

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25 9V-SPJ : I remember flying on Swissair SR170 from BOM-HKG back in 1994. It was near the new year and there were these shiny stars on the ceiling which really g
26 IrishMD11 : I forgot Swissair, their N221GF should be counted too... Gerry
27 CV580Freak : I flew SAA PER/JNB in upper deck economy - Superb flight, bags of room and great service, shame I can't say that about the dreadful SA immigration sha
28 Ktachiya : I can't tell you for all airlines but for JAL, the high densite configuration always have economy on the 2nd floor. Ones that I have taken are JA8088
29 PIA747 : PIA carries economy seats in the upper deck on all its 747 varients.
30 NZ1 : They exchanged the 743's for 2 ex SQ 744's. NZ1
31 Trex8 : when NW first got their 744s I flew one MSP to DTW upstairs, its been over 15 years now but I could have sworn it was Y up there and not biz.
32 HKGKaiTak : Their 743s did too. A lot of people enjoyed going upstairs in Y and was much talked about.
33 ZK-NBT : QF in the latter days anyway had Y upstairs on the 74L and 742.
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