Asked at today's AGM about the A380 deliveries, Spinetta said: "In principle it
was to be April 1, 2007. That will be delayed by six months compared to the
expected timetable."
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4237 times:
CDG-LUX shuttle service, mostly...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Columba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6801 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4199 times:
I am pretty sure that they will expect their first A380 by 2007 but I am not so sure if they will accept it by then
I think that they will do but who knows maybe they have to be some little repairs to be done untill AF finally accepts it -maybe Airbus has to wash it first or anything like that
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
SAS330GOT From Sweden, joined May 2004, 252 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4086 times:
i fit was LUX wonder if it would take longer to take a train. We are counting getting to airport, checking in, boarding, take off and flight, deboard, get luggage (yours is in the middle so number 234), from airport to place.
Train going from home to trainstation, train (3hrs and 54 min according to sncf.com), getting from station to location.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7177 posts, RR: 45 Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3880 times:
In my opinion, CDG-MEX is also a viable candidate. With current 11x weekly service (7x 772ER and 4x 747), AF might consider sending here the A380 a few times a week.
TGV From France, joined Dec 2004, 868 posts, RR: 23 Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3878 times:
Quoting SAS330GOT (Reply 6): Train going from home to trainstation, train (3hrs and 54 min according to sncf.com), getting from station to location.
And as we are speaking of October 2007, don't forget that, with the new high speed line presently in construction between Paris and the eastern part of France, due to open on June 15th 2007, the travel time between Paris and Luxembourg in TGV will be down from the 3hrs 54 you mention to 2hrs 15 only.
Experience on other high speed lines has shown that modal repartition between train and plane goes from 60% (train)-40% (plane) for a station to station running time of 3 hours to 90% (train) - 10% (plane) for a station running time of 2 hours.
So the 380 on CDG-LUX is definitely a no.
Avoid 777 with 3-4-3 config in Y ! They are real sardine cans. (AF/KL for example)
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3821 times:
You guys have no sense of humor!
And to prove it, I stand by my "prediction" that the AF A380 will fly 8x daily CDG-LUX. That routes just been dying for 1.5 million pax a year service!
As long as the entire population of the country wants to visit Paris 3 times a year by air, this route should work out just fine...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11201 posts, RR: 61 Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3791 times:
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Quoting Antiuser (Reply 9): There have also been talks about AF sending the A380 to GIG once a week during high season. GIG is a very lucrative market for AF.
Agree. Loads for GIG-CDG with the new 744 NEV concept is 93% and also, AF is enter an agreement with G3 (Gol) to code-share some brazilian destinations like CNF, BSB, VIX, SSA, POA and REC thru GIG that could become reality in two or three months. It can increase loads even more (note that Biz loads are much closer to 100%) and create three additional frequencies for GIG on the next months after G3 code share. If AF increase the flights to GIG, it can use the A380 on CDG-GIG in the future.
Rio has a "love case" with AF (also AF takes care of Rio and GIG as a primary market even not so biz as others). Rio has received the first new lounge on the world (even CDG received the new lounge after GIG) and also the first 744 NEV in the Americas and one of the first in the world.
Hope to see this bird on GIG one day.
Felipe
New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
Juventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3436 times:
In all of Latin America, only MEX and GRU will see A380 service. (just my opinion)
LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11201 posts, RR: 61 Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3151 times:
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Quoting FlySSC (Reply 15): AF aims to increase its capacity to both GRU and GIG by adding a second DAILY flight (a day flight from CDG).
AF would use the A380 to GIG ONLY if they can't get more traffic rights to add those frequencies.
FlySSC, agree. AF operates nowadays 14 frequencies (which will be increased to 17 with the new daily CDG-GRU three times per week). RG+JJ (Brazilian side) operates 21 frequencies. I don't know if AF will be allowed to operate 28 frequencies, but probably they could apply for 21 (so they have 4 available).
And with a load of 93% on GIG (744) and 92% on GRU (772), AF needs to increase the service.
Quoting Juventus (Reply 16): In all of Latin America, only MEX and GRU will see A380 service. (just my opinion)
Juventus, i respect your opinion, but i think that GIG is also a strong market for AF and as nowadays they are using the big plane available on this route (while GRU uses a 772 and could be improved tin favor of 773). Also GIG does not hold so many non stop int'l service which means that AF do not face competitors (on GRU JJ offer 2 daily GRU-CDG and RG one more). Also the partnership between Gol (G3) and AF will allow connections from GIG to some cities (now AF service to GIG is only to Rio). It's also my opinion.
Rgds
Felipe
New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
MD80Nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 871 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2245 times:
AF will be using the Engine Alliance option, right? Is the first A380 with these engines in the pipeline yet? Anybody have an informed idea when the first flight might be?
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