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JetBlue Flight 36 Emergency Landing JFK  
User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 13451 times:

JetBlue 36 is now airborne and declaring an emergency back to JFK. I wanted to see if anyone could find out what's happening. I will post more information as I get it.


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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 13380 times:

JetBlue is now on a dedicated freq and is off the normal tower channel for JFK. I still don't know what's happening, but they have taken a path over the water for about 15 minutes now, probably dumping fuel. Their flight plan is now officially changed back to JFK.

If anyone knows anything else, please post. I'd like to see what's happening. Hope everything's ok.



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 13377 times:

JFK tower can be heard here:

http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/jfk_twr.m3u

Haven't heard anything about it yet.

EDIT: Well, hearing that about the dedicated freq, that link is useless for this situation.  crazy 

Harry

[Edited 2005-07-25 04:03:38]


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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13339 times:

Yeah, that's what I've been listening to. It's how I heard of it all at first, until they switched freq's. They may be on departure now because they're so far out in the water, but I'm not sure. The last thing I heard was that they were switching to some freq, but I couldn't make it out.

Ok, the flight just checked back in with tower and is about to make a low approach. I'm guessing gear trouble or something of the sort that would warrant a low pass over the tower.



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13302 times:

Just announced gear down in normal position.

Harry



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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13294 times:

Yeah...its confirmed. The flight has a gear problem and is doing a low pass to get tower to check it out. Tower just came across saying that they can see the front gear light on and the gear is down and locked.

All emergency vehicles are now on the runway for confirmation as well. JetBlue 36 will be doing an emergency landing.



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User currently offlineNorthwestair From Poland, joined Jul 2001, 648 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13286 times:

Yea you can hear them on JFK Tower


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13286 times:

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 1):
probably dumping fuel.

I don't believe A320s are equipped with fuel dump systems...  Wink


User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13285 times:

Just heard that JetBlue 36 is going to make a low approach. They must be having some sort of hydraulic or electrical problem. On the low approach the tower said they could see the landing lights and the gear appeared to be in normal position. Maintenance is attempting to relay a message to them right now.


Tailwinds!!!
User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13274 times:

Yeah, just got it. Seems that the emergency vehicles are in the normal positions on the runway and confirmed the tower's view. Hope the landing works out. Guess we'll see. Probably just a faulty annunciator.


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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13240 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 7):

Really? I honestly didn't know that. Hmm, learn something new everyday.  Big grin



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User currently offlineAirplanePeanut From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13215 times:

Airport: New York, NY (JFK) Rochester, NY (ROC)
Scheduled Time: 8:15 pm, Jul 24 9:35 pm, Jul 24
Actual Time: 8:58 pm, Jul 24 (Actual) 10:23 pm, Jul 24 (Estimated)
Gate: 02 N/A
Status: In Air at an altitude of 7900 feet and ground speed of 250 KTS


Hmm, find a replacement? It seems a little to quick to get a new one, or are they just super quick?




 airplane  peanut



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12147 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13205 times:
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I thought was true with all Airbus not being able to dump fuel.


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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13186 times:

I think that's just a delayed listing of the one we're talking about, before it declared itself.


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13141 times:

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 10):
Really? I honestly didn't know that. Hmm, learn something new everyday.

It's mainly older aircraft (707, DC8, 727, L1011, DC10, 747) and others capable of longer-haul flights. I believe it's an option on the 767, and 777, and I'm not sure about the larger models. The 757, 737, DC9, and A320 don't have them...


User currently offlineNorthwestair From Poland, joined Jul 2001, 648 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13128 times:

Just cleared to land 22L


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User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13116 times:

JetBlue 36 has been cleared to land and has three in the green.


Tailwinds!!!
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13108 times:

They said they have "three in the green," which I assume means they are indicating all gear down and locked.

Harry



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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13107 times:

Ok, flight just reported three in the green for their gear and are about to make an emergency landing on RWY 22 with emergency vehicles standing by...


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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3148 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13103 times:

Yup, and they just confirmed the 3 green. Amazing, I hope everything goes ok!


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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13090 times:

Haha, guess we're all listening now...


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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13040 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 14):
It's mainly older aircraft (707, DC8, 727, L1011, DC10, 747) and others capable of longer-haul flights. I believe it's an option on the 767, and 777, and I'm not sure about the larger models. The 757, 737, DC9, and A320 don't have them...

Hmm, good to know. I didn't think a smaller A320 would have the need for it, but I didn't know if they may have put it on or not. Good to know though.



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13037 times:

Haha, guess we're all listening now...

Haha, it's pretty funny if you look at the times of the posts. I wonder if the pilot knows he has such a big audience.  Smile

Harry



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13027 times:

Landed safely  Smile

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13019 times:

sounds like theyre okay!

25 Usnseallt82 : Haha, I bet they don't realize the traffic is broadcast over the net. Okay, flight landed, seems to be okay.
26 Skibum9 : Just landed safely and is taxing on Zulu...moving the trucks for them to taxi off the runway.
27 Usnseallt82 : Seems like they'll stick around on the taxiway for a sec.... Whoa, JetBlue 36 didn't clear the active and now has another flight going around! Man, li
28 Northwestair : Did I hear this correctly The Tower told someone to shut up
29 AirplanePeanut : Someone had a go-around. Changed frequencies. Also, runway closed? [Edit, beat on the go-around!][Edited 2005-07-25 04:25:08]
30 Skibum9 : They just sent a plane on the go around that was on final for the same runway that JetBlue 36 landed. It appears they are having problems getting it o
31 MD11junkie : I believed a CX flight had to go around for the the B6 36 not clearing the runway. I didn't get that the runway was closed, though
32 FoxBravo : Cathay 084 just went around.
33 Usnseallt82 : The aircraft didn't move off the active and caused a go around. Apparently the Jetblue pilot didn't realize it and the airport manager had to get on y
34 Wjcandee : Tower told the airport operations director that if he'd shut up, the Tower could take care of it ("it" being the landing Cathay Pacific heavy jet). H
35 Northwestair : Ok I could understand that then.
36 Wjcandee : Well, he didn't realize that he was still on the wrong side of the hold bar. He had wanted to stay on the runway and let the vehicles have a look at
37 Usnseallt82 : Yeah, tower told the airport manager to shut up so that he could deal with the situation with the B6 flight. (glad someone used their abbrev!) They te
38 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Seems like everything is quieting down now. I wish I could hear the conversation later on between the tower guy and the airport manager. Oh well, inte
39 Usnseallt82 : Well, a little bit more...the communication between the B6 flight and ground crews seems to be slow and the tower is having to divert a lot of traffic
40 Usnseallt82 : The B6 flight is apparently now clear of the taxiways and is moving back towards the gate area. It also appears that there is already a replacement fl
41 Post contains links and images Philhyde : Airbus A340 has it. I'm not sure about the 330. You can see the nozzle in this picture: View Large View MediumPhoto © Zak Economides cheers, Phi
42 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Yeah, I thought the heavies had it because if they landed with full fuel, the gear requirements would be too heavy to allow the passenger load that th
43 Post contains links Usnseallt82 : Okay, according to Airbus, the landing weight max is 20,000 lbs. less that max takeoff. So, I would guess that you could assume that on a fully fueled
44 Newark777 : But if it was only going to Rochester, it shouldn't have been that heavy. Harry
45 Usnseallt82 : True. I guess if it didn't have the capability then it must have been running checklists out there over the water. I'll keep looking and see what I ca
46 Post contains images AirplanePeanut : Yes, but if it RON, they might not want to put fuel in it at 6 in the morning
47 Newark777 : True. I guess if it didn't have the capability then it must have been running checklists out there over the water. I'll keep looking and see what I ca
48 Wayfarer : What aircraft registration # is that jetBlue #36? I would like to pull up Airliners.net photo in database of that particular aircraft.[Edited 2005-07-
49 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Yeah, that's what I was thinking they were doing if they weren't dumping fuel. Although, now I want to find out if A320's are even able to dump fuel,
50 ZOTAN : Can anyone get me the link for the communications in the LiveATC archive? I would like to listen to it.
51 Post contains links Usnseallt82 : This should be it... http://www.liveatc.net/.archive/kjfk/JFK-Twr-Jul-24-05-2130.mp3 If not, just go to http://www.liveatc.net/archive.php and select
52 Post contains images Planespotting : Are you sure there wasn't a playboy check airmen involved? Perhaps a bomb had exploded on board, and the check airmens pregnant flight attendant girl
53 Usnseallt82 : All passengers from B6 were rescheduled on flight 30 on to ROC, late but eventually there. It seems that everything worked out ok. Although, it did pu
54 PyroGX41487 : OMG! I flew Flight 36 on Thursday night! The 8:35 out of JFK... that's amazing!
55 Post contains links and images Dogfighter2111 : Hey, i am not sure if this is one but if you look at the middle pylon you will see it is odly shaped (As though there was a hole at the end). View La
56 Mir : The pylon is built to accomodate the fuel dump nozzle (to save money), but it's not actually there in the picture you posted. Generally, 330s cannot
57 Drinkstrolley : Anybody know of any websites which cover UK ATC? Cheers.
58 Newark777 : Anybody know of any websites which cover UK ATC? Because of UK laws, you are generally not allowed to broadcast ATC communications. I believe you aren
59 Drinkstrolley : Sounds about right for us Brits!!!
60 Post contains links Newark777 : Sounds about right for us Brits!!! Here is some more info on radio traffic in the UK if you're interested: Whats The Best Scanner For LHR? (by TLVFred
61 UA777222 : You are correct. A good example would be NW's 332's. I know one of their SFO-NRT flights had to divert to Alaska but was not able to dump due to the
62 Burnsie28 : The fuel dumping on the A330 and A340 I read somewhere was an option that cost quite a pretty penny to add to the aircraft.
63 Lnglive1011yyz : It could be the fact that the controller felt like he was being underminded by the Airport Op's Mgr, and it pissed him off more than anything. You de
64 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Yeah, I would agree with the last. I went in to work today and told some people about it and we all agreed that it really took a cool head to shuffle
65 Post contains images DAYflyer : If I remember correctly, there was an unplanned fuel dump from an Air Transat A-330 a while back...
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