SNBA From France, joined Oct 2004, 203 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6507 times:
SN Brussels Airlines and Etihad Airways launch their flights between Brussels-Toronto and Abu Dhabi
Good news for all SN Brussels Airlines and BRU fans!!! It seems that their long-haul network is expanding again :
From 31 October 2005, Brussels, the capital of the European Union, will be connected to Toronto and Abu Dhabi, thanks to a partnership concluded between SN Brussels Airlines and Etihad Airways, the national company of the United Arab Emirates. Three direct flights will be weekly operated between the airport of Brussels National and these two cities.
Etihad Airways and SN Brussels Airlines kick off the winter season (launched 31 October) with the launch of these new services. Three times a week, a plane of Etihad Airways will link the capital of Europe, the Canadian metropolis and Abu Dhabi, head office of Etihad Airways. Some days ago, discussions held between Etihad, SN and Biac, the managing company of the Zaventem airport, ended successfully and led to the opening of two new routes for long-haul flights.
SN Brussels Airlines will place its famous “SN” code on every flight and thus it will be able to propose to its customers direct and comfortable flights to Canada as well the capital city of the United Arab Emirates from Brussels.
Etihad Airways will operate on the Belgian market three flights to Abu Dhabi and, thanks to its excellent connections, numerous flights to destinations situated in the Gulf area and to Asia.
All flights will be operated with modern Airbus A330-200 of Etihad. These planes are configured in three zones: Diamond (First, 12 seats), Pearl (Business, 24 seats) and Coral (Economy, 180 seats). On board, Etihad’s passengers enjoy an extraordinary all-in service with a large range of meals and relaxations.
Brussels – Abu Dhabi
On Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays at 1:45 PM, Etihad’s Airbus A330-200 will steer a course for Abu Dhabi. It will arrive at 11:20 PM (local time). The fights Abu Dhabi – Brussels will be offered on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. The plane will take off
from Abu Dhabi at 1:15 PM and it will land in the European capital at 5:45 PM (local time).
Thanks to this timetable, Etihad has the opportunity to offer, from its home base, excellent connections to numerous destinations in the Middle East, in the Gulf area and in Asia. Without forgetting Dubai, easily accessible thanks to a luxurious, fast and free bus.
The configuration of the European network allows SN to propose excellent possibilities of travel to Abu Dhabi from Rome, Lyon, Strasbourg, Geneva, Birmingham, Manchester, Glasgow, Newcastle, Madrid, Bilbao, Oslo, Copenhagen, Gothenburg, Berlin Tempelhof, Munich, Hamburg and Vienna.
Abu Dhabi is the capital of the United Arab Emirates. The city has imposed itself as a major business centre. Its main characteristics are a modern architecture, superb shopping centres, authentic souks, green areas and a beautiful coast. Abu Dhabi attracts a growing number of tourists.
Brussels – Toronto
On Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, the Airbus A330 of Etihad will take off from Brussels at 7:00 PM to land in Toronto at 9:45 (local time). The return flight from Toronto will also be operated on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays with a landing the next day at 12:30 PM.
Thanks to these flight schedules, SN Brussels Airlines’ customers will have the opportunity to travel to Canada via Brussels at the start from different European cities like Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham, Bristol, Oslo, Helsinki, Milan, Rome, Venice, Lyon, Strasbourg, Berlin Tempelhof, Hamburg, Geneva, Warsaw, Prague and Vienna.
SN Brussels Airlines and Etihad Airways will sell their tickets via their own points of sell.
Route Operator Code Marketing Code Days Ops Dep Arr Acft Period
AUH-BRU EY 501 SN 8102 1_3_5__ 13:15 17:45 33A 31OCT-24MAR
BRU-YYZ EY 501 SN 8099 1_3_5__ 19:00 21:45 33A 31OCT-24MAR
YYZ-BRU EY 502 SN 8100 1_3_5__ 23:00 12:30 33A 31OCT-24MAR
BRU-AUH EY 502 SN 8101 _2_4_6_ 13:45 23:20 33A 01NOV-25MAR
... all information taken from SN Brussels Airlines. Good news for SN and BRU! I am looking forward to other announcements...
TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6345 times:
How do Etihad and SNBA share the economic risk on the YYZ route? It would be hard to believe that SNBA is responsible for marketing the entire seat capacity (and probably getting a fair percentage of the revenue), but does not have to take care of some of the operational costs.
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
Cornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6308 times:
Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 4): It would be hard to believe that SNBA is responsible for marketing the entire seat capacity (and probably getting a fair percentage of the revenue), but does not have to take care of some of the operational costs.
Well I guess it depends just how many seats they think will be taken up by BRU-YTO passengers. Anyone know of what they think the projected breakdown is of BRU and AUH passengers proportionally to/from YTO? If they think it will be predominantly AUH, then it would be less of an issue I guess.
Also maybe SN are taking on the bulk of the costs of the flight at BRU - groundstaff, etc.
Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
As it turns out, Etihad will not have fifth freedom rights between BRU and YYZ. However, SN will not be responsible for all seats on those segments, as EY will obviously sell quite some seats for the entire AUH-BRU-YYZ route. SN will meanwhile have a hard time marketing a thrice weekly transatlantic service for a route where its major competitors have at least daily connections available.
I am doubtful as to what SN is trying to achieve here. There is very little incremental value to the airline's network with the addition of YYZ and AUH as new destinations. In fact, both destinations seem somewhat out of place in a network that is firmly focusing on Europe and Africa. SN seems to be looking for a team up with just about any carrier that visits BRU, irrespective of the markets served.
If SN really were to be interested in establishing itself in the Canadian market, wouldn't it be better to pursue a daily Montreal link again. At least there's a proven market out of BRU for such a destination.
SNBru From Belgium, joined Feb 2005, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6242 times:
Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 7): There is very little incremental value to the airline's network with the addition of YYZ and AUH as new destinations.
I completely agree with you, HB-IWC. The only reason I can come up with, is that SNBA got the route codeshare for a very good price. I mean, if it is a pure codeshare SNBA doesn't take any risks while it has the possibility to attract more connecting passengers. Though I agree with you that BRU-YUL-BRU would be a much more attractive route.
HB-IWC, how do you have knowledge about all this accurate Sabena-related knowledge? Former employee? Welcome to my respected user list anyway!