TWPHIL From France, joined May 2005, 46 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6051 times:
Can anyone tell me how serious is the CWA project.Their website is focusing on very high standards and operations to start by the end of 2006 or mid the 2007 the latest.Your information and thoughts will be welcomed.
DFORCE1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5949 times:
Personally, I don't think it's realistic. It's an incredible dream but nothing more than that. While I believe the demand is present around the world, I question how feasible such an operation is. I also question where one would generate the start-up capital. I doubt Montreal is the best base for such a concept. I see nothing has been submitted so far to Transport Canada requesting for an Air Operators Certificate and so I question the project even further. I'll ask around and see what kind of information I can dig. But I think this idea will end up a virtual airline before or if it ever turns to a reality.
Don't get me wrong - I'd love to see such an airline exist but in light of the fact it was based on a previous idea by the same person under the name of Top Hat airlines which never got off the ground, I'd doubt this one would. I wonder who the management and investors are - maybe it's Michel Leblanc and the Jetsgo team trying to reinvent themselves
Furthermore, it looks like the airline wants to operate flights from other countries other than Canada to other countries. It seems to be a huge undertaking where some innovator is trying to take a concept and implement it around the world but many countries don't allow 100% foreign ownership of airlines.
CayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5887 times:
Setting aside the almost certainly insurmountable logistical problems to start-up such a venture---YUL can support very few if any of those new destinations as a stand-alone service. It is utterly fanciful. Loking at their proposed route map would have YUL about as well, or better, connected than JFK?
Please don't anyone hit their defence mechanism button on this one--I am not slagging YUL or Montreal--but let's be objective people: who rationally believes that YUL- Johannesburg or YUL Bangkok on a 744 is a logical consideration? Just look at that map.
YUL is not a large international market and in any event it is rightly already well served by European carriers on routes that support themselves.
Good luck trying to get anyone to invest in this daydream.
Sunnyb From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5880 times:
It's not getting off the ground for sure!!
CWA's fleet consists of 4 Boeing 747 400 ERs, supported by 15 McDonald Douglas MD 83 aircrafts. While the 747 will be configured for 194 passengers, the shuttles will be configured with 60 seats. The shuttles, five each at the hubs, shall cater to connections within 30 minutes between arrival and departure.
Look at their route map and how they plan to fly to those places with just 4 747s!
IRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5850 times:
Uhh yeah, that website seems like a big joke to me. First of all it reads like a 15 year old wrote it, and second of all the business plan is completely untenable. The people who can afford to travel like that can also afford to do NetJets or buy their own planes.
Yeggerman From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5840 times:
If you read about all the stuff on board the 747 they want to have, doctors on each flight on standby, 2 smoking rooms for the smoking customers, and even the possibilty of building their own airport just outside of montreal to better serve the public,
Quote: A second choice is that CWA builds its own airport in order to better respond to the needs of its market. Ideally the airport will be built, if permitted, to the west of the Island of Montreal in the village of St. Polycarpe in the region of De Beaujeu,
I dunno sounds like a pipe dream and a fancy website to me, and nothing more.
Burberry753 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5759 times:
"On the main deck, one will find the Mont Royal suite located in the front of the cabin near the nose of the plane, equipped with a King size bed, a fireplace in winter, an aquarium in summer, and with a living room and satellite TV of 46 inches etc., full bathroom with bidet and whirl pool bath of 38 inches in diameter, sauna, shower and ECRS-pods. Two servers will be available throughout the flight as well as a secretary. The Mont Royal suite will be convertible to “Top Class” accommodating up to 4 individual passengers, with a single bed to offer comfort and privacy."
Sounds Great! But I'l believe it when i see it with my own eyes, lol
707lvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 589 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5706 times:
This thing sounded at first like Just What the World Needs! Seriously, there are people who will spend that kind of money for the best, and this concept would exceed the snob appeal of merely flying in a private jet (unless it was a 747SP or something.) When I got to the FIREPLACE, however, I smelled a rat.
I particularly like the "Horses Area" in the tail of the MD-83.
Of course, M. Bazra will be remembered by some as the proprietor of Canada Air Charter which was put out of business by TC after selling non-existent air services. Either he's barking mad, or someone has come up with a brilliant parody.
Comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5393 times:
Quoting Hrhf1 (Reply 12): Hehehehehehehehehe...whoooo....hehehehehehe....stop it! I can't hold back the laughter! Whenever I need a good laugh I think I'll just look at the website...hehehehehehehehehehehe
I think the above sums up whatever needs to be said about this topic. I tried really hard to think of something funny to say, but the site is just too mind-boggling to comment on.
In Quebec's defense, however, I must say they do have very good looking women...