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New B6 Routes With EMB190s?  
User currently offlineFlyTweed From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 84 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4336 times:

Any ideas on what new cities might be in the cards for B6 once the new EMB190s are fully implemented? Seven 190's are supposed to be in service by November, with the remaining 93 on order put into service in the following couple of years. When I spoke with B6's VP of Flight Operations, he mentioned a possibility of 200 new city pairings once the 190's go into service. Louisville was mentioned in an earlier thread (and in a news article I believe), but I was wondering if anyone else had any ideas?

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User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

not at first, as has been discussed a lot, they´ll first connect points with exixsting cities. Aug 24th will be the delivery date

do a search, lot´s of interesting stuff.



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User currently offlineORD Boy 2 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 287 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4141 times:

anyone think ORD, MDW or GYY???

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4127 times:
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Quoting ORD+Boy+2" class=quote target=_blank>ORD Boy 2 (Reply 2):
ORD, MDW or GYY???

ORD at some point, MDW maybe, GYY do not hold your breath!



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 49
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4112 times:
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Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 1):
not at first, as has been discussed a lot, they´ll first connect points with exixsting cities. Aug 24th will be the delivery date

Also the first revenue flight is not expected until October, I believe it has been mentioned that no new cities would be added just because of the 190's this year.

Quoting FlyTweed (Thread starter):
Louisville was mentioned in an earlier thread (and in a news article I believe), but I was wondering if anyone else had any ideas?

It was a fluff article that mentioned nothing in it of any proof!



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4016 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
ORD at some point, MDW maybe, GYY do not hold your breath!

Knowing them they'll do all 3 eventually. Hell maybe even VPZ, and DPA too (sarcasm on these two). See the NYC area if you want the method to my madness.


User currently offlineTrappedInMKG From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

Rumors are flying circulating that GRR is coming. Perhaps DTW too, although I'll bet B6 waits for the North Terminal to be done.

User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3817 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3689 times:

What city doesnt have a rumor or a tiny piece of evidence that b6 is coming?

i thought they were going to connect some dots, get the airbuses off of intra ny routes, and then fly to those cities on that list they have...im not sure what its called exactly but its a list of cities that they originally had interest in.. you guys know what im talking about.


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32798 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 7):
What city doesnt have a rumor or a tiny piece of evidence that b6 is coming?

Very good point.

Though I have heard from very reliable sources that the first new 195 city will be in Texas, and it isn't Dallas.



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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1398 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8):
Though I have heard from very reliable sources that the first new 195 city will be in Texas, and it isn't Dallas.

Oh please be AUS!  Smile

But in reality, I would think that B6 would put the 195's on some of the intra-state NY routes and other potentially "thin" routes (at least by comparison to flying them with 320s) along the East Coast. In other words, I don't expect them to start opening new stations en masse once these come online. Unless, as stated earlier, they decided on AUS.

-Mike



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User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2077 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3628 times:

Quoting Mikey711MN (Reply 9):
Oh please be AUS

San Antonio. Sorry. I'm sure there is a an AUS rumor that you can pin your hopes on.


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32798 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

Actually, it is Austin, not San Antonio, that is supposed to be the first new E195 station announced by the end of the year. No promises, that's just the "word", take it for what it's worth.

Quoting Mikey711MN (Reply 9):
But in reality, I would think that B6 would put the 195's on some of the intra-state NY routes and other potentially "thin" routes (at least by comparison to flying them with 320s) along the East Coast. In other words, I don't expect them to start opening new stations en masse once these come online.

That is exactly what they are doing. The first 195 routes will be existing routes and new routes between existing stations (expect JFK-BOS and FLL-BUF first). New stations should start coming online in spring 2006. If rumours come true, Austin will be the first one. Grand Rapids and San Antonio won't be very far behind. And there will be plenty more.

Also, on another note, if Stewart is awarded the SCASD grant they applied for, SWF will likely be the first 195 new station.

[Edited 2005-07-28 07:08:00]


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User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2077 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3614 times:

Interesting, Neelman said they were looking at SAT. Wouldn't surprise me to see both announced however.

User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3524 times:

LIsten to the Swedish guy in south florida people. He´s a 99,99% hitter guys.
Mark, why are you writing 195 instead of 190, do you know something we don´t?



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User currently offlineIFly4UAL From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

ho-hum

What cities will be served by JetBlue's E190s?
When will NW retire the DC9 and what will it be replaced with?

Honestly, how many times can something BE discussed?


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User currently offlineN808NWatMSP From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3464 times:

Any chance of seeing these 190s at MSPWink

But seriously, it would be nice to see jetBlue at MSP at all, whether with A320s or ERJ190s. Does anyone think that there could be a market at MSP for B6scratchchin 


User currently offlineErikwilliam From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 2152 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3403 times:

Quoting N808NWatMSP (Reply 15):
But seriously, it would be nice to see jetBlue at MSP at all, whether with A320s or ERJ190s. Does anyone think that there could be a market at MSP for B6?

and balte with NW?
first things first,
round 1-CO@EWR
I´m guessing they´ll use the E-190´s to be strong up and down and free up the A-320´s to make transon flights.
that´s me tough.



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User currently offlineMDW22L31C From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 213 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3316 times:

How about replacing A320 on LGB-OAK LGB-LAS with E-190's. This will free up A320's for long hall flights.

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3295 times:

How about replacing A320 on LGB-OAK LGB-LAS with E-190's. This will free up A320's for long hall flights.

I think that the 190s will be on both coasts eventually, but they probably want to keep them based out of JFK initially.

As for routes, we have years to look at this! B6 still has a heck of a lot of planes on order (320s and 190s) so there will be many new routes and cities to come. However, I'd expect B6 to put their first 190s on a JFK-Upstate NY route. They could increase frequencies and put the 320s on longer, more profitable routes.


User currently offlineJetblue15 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

The first few routes with the 190's will not be out of JFK. Look for a SYR-FLL or BUF-FLL route. As for new cities, there will be no more new cities at least until early next year. A BOS-JFK and IAD-JFK are also in the near future but like I said the first couple 190 routes are not going to be JFK involved.

Jetblue15



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User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2004 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

Quoting Jetblue15 (Reply 19):
The first few routes with the 190's will not be out of JFK. Look for a SYR-FLL or BUF-FLL route. As for new cities, there will be no more new cities at least until early next year. A BOS-JFK and IAD-JFK are also in the near future but like I said the first couple 190 routes are not going to be JFK involved.

Where is Mx going to be done on these birds? If they are going to be worked on in JFK, then they should run flights on them out of JFK so they can rotate through checks and be able to fix the write-ups. If they are going to have their Mx done in FLL, then it would seem logical...can anyone elaborate? Thanks!

Ryan


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Quoting Jetblue15 (Reply 19):
but like I said the first couple 190 routes are not going to be JFK involved.

Like BOS-MSY, twice daily, with 190's.


User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2753 times:

Quoting Jetblue15 (Reply 19):
The first few routes with the 190's will not be out of JFK. Look for a SYR-FLL or BUF-FLL route. As for new cities, there will be no more new cities at least until early next year. A BOS-JFK and IAD-JFK are also in the near future but like I said the first couple 190 routes are not going to be JFK involved.

Yea, that sounds better.

I just took ROC-JFK today and they were saying today's flight is normal and it was like 97% full, not many open seats at all. And a good amount was staying in NYC so I think adding 190's on Upstate routes wouldn't be the best idea considering they go out close to full alot and adding E-190's on that would mean adding like 2X more to each city (Since Florida is opening up they will still see JFK connecting and JFK PAX)

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 21):
Like BOS-MSY, twice daily, with 190's.

Actually I heard somewhere that that is going to be one of the flights, so...

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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2191 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2662 times:
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Will jetBlue own the E190s or will they lease them trough GECAS or ILFC or...? Does B6 own their A320s?

Will the E190 galleys be wired for ovens for optional hot meal services or will they only have "cold" galleys?



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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 23):
Will jetBlue own the E190s or will they lease them trough GECAS or ILFC or...? Does B6 own their A320s?

I think they will own the E-190's and They lease some A320's (Like the first 2/3 planes and some others)

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 23):
Will the E190 galleys be wired for ovens for optional hot meal services or will they only have "cold" galleys?

Well they probably won't be wired for it but if they want to off in the future they can add it on, but for now, most likely the way the 320's are just a little smaller.

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25 Newkai : I don't think a daily (or two) Upstate NY-Florida E190(s) would cannibalize too much.
26 Jetpixx : Didn't they build or take over a hangar at MCO to do maintenance?
27 Ckfred : I've read several times that B6 would prefer ORD to MDW, since there is more business traffic out of ORD, and that B6 isn't interested in ORD until it
28 FA4B6 : B6 built an E190 Mx hangar just like the one we built at JFK.
29 Cubsrule : ... which will require, in all probability, something severe to happen to either AA or UA. I believe F6 is about the only domestic gate available, an
30 Post contains images SaabFA71 : How about opening a B6 operation at MDT (Harrisburg, PA)? I live in that area and the market has been screaming for a LCC for years. The new 190s will
31 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : Well I don't know if MDT will be one of the first groups of cities but I fell it will come some day. Adding the service to MDT would even bring in Mon
32 Stirling : Makes perfect sense. Austin, being a college town, seems much more "jetBlue-ish" than San Antonio..nothing against the Alamo City, just that Austin h
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