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RG Network Slowly Returning To Old Times  
User currently onlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8942 posts, RR: 40
Posted (9 years 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

According to Folha.com.br, RG will be bringing back flights that were suspended in May 2005. Some of the flights that will come back as of 8 AUG 2005:

LDB-CGH/CWB

MAO-BEL-FOR-REC

VIX-CGH/BSB/CNF (2X daily each, non-stop )

CGB-CGR will be kept as a code-share with JJ. RG stated that they maintain studies to return to operate this route with their own metal.

FLN-POA (timed for EZE connections)

GYN-GRU (better timed for Intl. connections)

Only destination not served by RG is CZS (Cruzeiro do Sul), due to very low loads.

On the international side, RG maintained their VVI service, only cancelled their LPB tag-on.

Nice to see RG coming back to these markets!

Cheers,
PPVRA


"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11419 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2098 times:
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Really, it's nice to see RG improving services and network. Yesterday i fly GRU-FOR on RG and besides its a friday, all the seats (8) on biz are full and 96% of Y as per RG staff. At the same time flights to NAT, IGU/CWB are also with high loads. VIX is a city that received special atention from RG, with 4 more services (2 non stop to CGH and 2 to CNF-BSB as PP-VRA stated). Wish they can return to service the 733 stoped and the 2 772 (one will be back to service on the next days)

Rgds,
Felipe

PS: I am not able to take part on the A.Net meeting tmrw as i'm in a biz trip on FOR and NAT.



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User currently offlineNeo From Brazil, joined Jan 2001, 671 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 1):
VIX is a city that received special atention from RG, with 4 more services (2 non stop to CGH and 2 to CNF-BSB as PP-VRA stated).

Indeed, RG paid special attention to VIX with realocation of these flights/aircrafts. When JJ and RG codeshare was still in effect, RG operated its 737's in the VIX-GIG and VIX-CNF route and left JJ operating VIX-CGH with their A320/A319's.

After the end of JJ/RG codeshare, with the required realocation of aircrafts RG mantained only there GIG flights, reducing a lot its presence and seat offers in VIX, which always had RG as a strong player. JJ took advantadge of this and strengthen their operation in VIX increasing the flights to CNF and GIG.

During the codeshare:

RG
5 daily VIX-GIG
4 daily VIX-PLU (2 in codeshare)
4 daily VIX-CGH (codeshare)
1 daily VIX-SSA (codeshare)

JJ
5 daily VIX-GIG (codeshare)
4 daily VIX-PLU (2 in codeshare)
4 daily VIX-CGH
2 daily VIX-GRU
1 daily VIX-SSA
1 daily VIX-BSB

After the end of codeshare:

RG
3 daily VIX-GIG

Total 3 daily flights

JJ
3 daily VIX-GIG
5 daily VIX-CGH
2 daily VIX-GRU
3 daily VIX-CNF
1 daily VIX-BSB
1 daily VIX-SSA

Total 14 daily flights

TOTAL DEPARTURES OUT OF VIX: 24

As you can see above JJ right now, flies more than 60% of all departures our of VIX aiport and RG only 12,5%. I think this can explain why RG is trying to regain terrain in VIX, which is definetly a significant market in Brazil.

Rgs,

Neo


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11419 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1885 times:
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Quoting Neo (Reply 2):
As you can see above JJ right now, flies more than 60% of all departures our of VIX aiport and RG only 12,5%. I think this can explain why RG is trying to regain terrain in VIX, which is definetly a significant market in Brazil.

Question is that RG expect to bring pax thru GIG, but with 3 single flights on 733 they couldn't do that and will lost market (specially for CNF and BSB). VIX is nowadays ranked top 15 airport in Brazil and will probably get almost 1 mm pax this year. As Exame stated, while JJ prepared the life after the end of the code-share with RG, RG keeps with the idea of being supported by the Government. VIX is a strong warning for them.

Regards,
Felipe



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User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (9 years 23 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

Any chance of VARIG resuming its flights to Lagos (Nigeria)?

RG operated to LOS for 2 decades I think, until the service was suspended in the the late 1990s. I think a resumed service would be profitable considering the growth of trade between Nigeria and Brazil and the relative progress witnessed in Nigeria in the past few years, as compared to the pariah-state status in the 1990s.



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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2489 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (9 years 23 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

did they already returned the 4 757's, 2 777's and the hand full of 737's?

User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (9 years 21 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 5):
did they already returned the 4 757's, 2 777's and the hand full of 737's?

I dont think this will happen in the short/medium term. It was more pressure for RG to pay its dues (Boeing needs RG as much as RG needs Boeing especialy after TAM huge order of Airbuses - I know, less so now that Boeing has in its pocked an order of 101 Boeings from GOL!

The only a/c being returned for sure are 2 x MD11s, already assigned to Fedex if I'm not mistaken.

LH Consultancy, on the operational side, and UBS, on the financial part, are both involved in RG restructuring process.

Rgs,


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11419 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (9 years 18 hours ago) and read 1755 times:
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Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 4):
Any chance of VARIG resuming its flights to Lagos (Nigeria)?

I don't believe RG resume Lagos service in the near future. They have a lack of aircraft for some flights like MAD (operating with one single aircraft). But they will receive another 767-300ER in the next weeks. (Tmrw i get the info from where). I agree with you that service to Africa are nowadays very profitable (TAAG and TACV both are improving services to GIG and FOR) and also SAA route to Brazil are daily and several times here stated as the best SAA route. Dakar could be another important route (may be one or two times per week)

Regards,
Felipe



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User currently onlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8942 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

Hey, I was thinking (off-topic), what would be the likely hood of RG flying routes such as GRU-FRA, GRU-MUC, GRU-HAM-DUS or GRU-DUS and/or HAM with the 787-8 (assuming they would order them some day)?

Or do you guys think they would try to consolidate out of secondary Brazilian cities to FRA/MUC?

Obviously I don't see them with that plane any time soon, for now I'm just hoping they stay alive, but just for the thought it?

Cheers,
PPVRA



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11419 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1549 times:
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Quoting PPVRA (Reply 8):
Hey, I was thinking (off-topic), what would be the likely hood of RG flying routes such as GRU-FRA, GRU-MUC, GRU-HAM-DUS or GRU-DUS and/or HAM with the 787-8 (assuming they would order them some day)?

Or do you guys think they would try to consolidate out of secondary Brazilian cities to FRA/MUC?

Obviously I don't see them with that plane any time soon, for now I'm just hoping they stay alive, but just for the thought it?

I believe nowadays there is market for a REC-FRA (3 times per week) if you create a little hub there. As FRA act as a hub, probably flights to MUC, HAM, DUS will corrupt FRA yields. Also, if the demand is clear, i think LH would start the MUC-GRU flight (even not daily).
A detail, remember that RG keeps 2 772 during the day at FRA. They could create legs to MUC, but RG have a strong partner there.
Sometimes the higher plane utilization could not be paid by the additional revenue created, and in my opinion, this is a case.
A 763 flight REC-FRA-MUC (allowing GRU and GIG pax to connect) would be better!
FRA is the top yielding RG market nowadays (int'l).

Felipe



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