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I Found A Video Clip Of KL691 In SYR  
User currently offlineLFutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9931 times:

I found a video of KL691 in Syracuse!

http://www.news10now.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=46623


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User currently offlineSmAlbany From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 285 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9853 times:

Cool to see a 747 at SYR. Thanks for the link.

I think that it's funny that they were calling it an "emergency landing due to a fuel problem" I would have called it a diverted flight due to the emergency at Toronto.


User currently offlineDesertJEts From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7772 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9757 times:

Technically speaking KL691 did declare an emergency. B/c of the extended hold time due to weather at YYZ and then the shutdown basically meant that the plane had to land ASAP. As SYR was just off of the nose it was the closest divert.


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User currently offlineSmAlbany From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 285 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9682 times:

I did read later that they had declared an emergency. I was just coming back here to edit when I read your post. I still think that the reporter was doing a little sensational reporting though in emphasizing the emergency.

User currently offlineUswyjer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9656 times:

Emphasizing that no one was hurt on a diversion... definitely sensationalism... but that's what the media is there to do... was the specatator one of us? Wink had a scanner and a camera!

User currently offlineGoomba From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9645 times:

I listened to ATC at YYZ - KL691 declared a fuel emergency as soon as the airport was determined closed.

ATC recommended Hamilton, but KL691 requested SYR.


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9626 times:

Yeah, KLM 691 was about to be rerouted and the exchange went something like this:

Pilot: KLM 691 is declaring a fuel emergency. Pan Pan Pan. We are low on fuel and request direct to Syracuse.

ATC: Copy, we can give you Hamilton if you'd like.

Pilot: KLM 691 that's negative, we have Syracuse as an alternate.

ATC: Acknowledged. Turn left heading XXX direct Syracuse.

[Edited 2005-08-03 21:16:39]


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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8702 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9579 times:

I liked how he emphasised the 747 was no big deal...

I mean, what does he want, the freakin' An-225?!?  Silly


In seriousness, he couldn't have said it better. Fuel emergency, diverted without problems and everyone's fine.



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User currently offlineSNBru From Belgium, joined Feb 2005, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9427 times:

Luckily nobody was hurt during the emergency landing in Syracuse!

Ok, emergency landing in theory, but wounded people during a normal landing?

A little bit too much I think ...

I think the people over there were just happy that something unusual happened.


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7407 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9402 times:
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I wonder if the Ed Stronski guy on the news is an A.Netter?


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User currently onlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8226 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9355 times:

Although they declared a fuel emergency, emergency landing implies something catastrophic could happen if they didn't get down right then and there. Fact is the airplane could have diverted to any alternate they wanted and they only declared an emergency to get the controllers to realize their fuel situation. Nothing was ever out of hand or in a real state of emergency, as the video implies.

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 9):
I wonder if the Ed Stronski guy on the news is an A.Netter?

I wonder too... he seemed like the type  silly 



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User currently offlineBluejackets From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 280 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9320 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 10):
I wonder too... he seemed like the type

Well he did know the exact length of the runway!



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User currently offlineSchipholjfk From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 9273 times:

How come the plane was not diverted to Buffalo (a bigger airport) or Rochester (ROC) which seems closer to Toronto (right across the Lake)? Was Buffalo experiencing similar weather condition at the time?

[Edited 2005-08-04 00:19:13]


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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7772 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9183 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 10):
Fact is the airplane could have diverted to any alternate they wanted and they only declared an emergency to get the controllers to realize their fuel situation.

In light of previous crashes, such as the Avianca 707 crash landing in Queens 15 years ago, making your fuel situation CLEAR to controllers would be a standard procedure.

Quoting Schipholjfk (Reply 12):
How come the plane was not diverted to Buffalo (a bigger airport) or Rochester (ROC) which seems closer to Toronto (right across the Lake)? Was Buffalo experiencing similar weather condition at the time?

I suspect the divert to SYR was due in large part to where the hold pattern was. Plus SYR has the longest runway of any of the major upstate airports (9003' as Ed points out in the newsclip  Smile)

And yes Buffalo was being hit by the same system that was over Toronto.



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User currently offlineKALB From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 573 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9063 times:

Back in '87 or'88 a BA Concorde paid a visit to KSYR to do an "out over the Atlantic at Mach 2" charter joy ride.

User currently onlineN751PR From Japan, joined May 2002, 1249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9034 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 6):
Yeah, KLM 691 was about to be rerouted and the exchange went something like this:

Pilot: KLM 691 is declaring a fuel emergency. Pan Pan Pan. We are low on fuel and request direct to Syracuse.

ATC: Copy, we can give you Hamilton if you'd like.

Pilot: KLM 691 that's negative, we have Syracuse as an alternate.

ATC: Acknowledged. Turn left heading XXX direct Syracuse.

If anyone is interested, you can hear the ATC conversation with KL691 in this mp3 (got it from LorM in the Air France A340 Off Runway In YYZ thread)



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User currently offline3201 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8959 times:

I love the

"In other news, all 309 passengers and crew survived the fiery crash of a jet..."

Gotta definitely keep your strories prioritized!


User currently offlineFly_yhm From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1681 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7825 times:

I wished they would have sent it ehre. I was at YHM the evening. and Out side of perason we have the lngerst Runway in the area 10,000 Feet. oh well did have an ElAl 767-300 which was cool.


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User currently offlineOmoo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7306 times:

how many Heavies were at SYR due to Toronto closure? i have listened to the audio and it seems likle there was an Air Canada Heavy diversion to SYR ?

User currently offlineBoeingPride800 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 430 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7062 times:

Wow. That's cool to see a 747 at SYR! I'm just glad there wasn't another accident. But it is a big deal when a huge heavy like that comes to Syracuse everyone.

User currently offlineNewkai From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5982 times:

I listened to the SYR audio, and KLM was the only divertee. If you listen to the SYR audio, around 16:25, it's really interesting. There's a bunch of private planes that have to keep being turned away.

The ATC feed from liveatc.net:

http://www.liveatc.net/.archive/ksyr/KSYR-Aug-02-05-1600.mp3 (about last five minutes)
http://www.liveatc.net/.archive/ksyr/KSYR-Aug-02-05-1630.mp3 (right from the beginning)

I'm glad News 10 Now added the video clip... Took them awhile! Usually it's up right with the story, not over a day later!

[Edited 2005-08-04 23:14:41]

[Edited 2005-08-04 23:15:23]

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