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Airliners Doing Touch-and-gos  
User currently offlineUal1636 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1173 times:

Has anyone ever seen an airliner do touch-and-go's at an airport for a long time? Like 6 or so hours? One time while golfing at a course near COS, I kept seeing the same AA 737NG doing touch and go's for about 6 hours. I would've liked to listen to ATC on my scanner to see what was going on, but I was golfing. Also, I wondered why would they do this at COS, because the most amazing thing we see at COS is the occasional Tower Air 747. Thanks.

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User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3465 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1060 times:

Pilot training flights. While virtually all AA line pilots are trained in simulators, AA checkairmen (and many of the first line pilots for a new aircraft) receive initial training in both simulator and aircraft.

Why COS? Probably because the landing fees are low and the flight would not interrupt normal operations too much nor would normal airport ops interrupt the training.



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User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1045 times:

I am assuming that Tower Air is always charter flights for the military. I'm sure near Colorado Springs has Air Force Base Academy. That's why you saw Tower Air in COS arpt recently. I am not sure 100% if they charter flight carry military.

Thks...


User currently offlineUal1636 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1034 times:

Thanks guys. Big777jet, you're probably right about the Tower Air, the US Air Force Academy, Peterson AFB, and Fort Carson are all near COS.

User currently offlineAaron atp From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1029 times:

I've seen United 747's doing them at OAK... Their widebody maintenance facility is there...

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8051 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1005 times:

Saw an MEA 720 doing touch-and-gos at Beirut International airport in 95!

'Zero time' simulators are OK (so realistic that you can get a type rating without ever flying the heavy iron) but everyone still does Base Training (as opposed to Line Training, which is on scheduled flights with a Training Captain in the left hand seat). Many planes have been lost doing engine out exercises, so emergency procedures are kept to sims. Delta lost a DC9 (along with one of their best training captains, and a few cadets) when the aircraft was pounding the circuit along with an American DC10 doing the same thing, at the Fort Worth Airport (not DFW). The DC9 intercepted the DC10's wake turbulence after making a shortcut on base leg, and rolled over and crashed next to the runway.

I've been in the jumpseat during Base Training on smaller planes, and it's fun but there is still an element of danger, especially in a busy circuit. Knowing what I know now, I would have stayed on the ground, although it was great fun at the time.



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User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 999 times:

Shannon airport in Ireland is sometimes used for crew training. It's long runway, and small amount of traffic make it ideal. I was down there one day when a Lufthansa B747-200 was doing touch and goes for about 2 hours. Then it taxied into the terminal, refueled and headed back to Frankfurt.


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User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 992 times:

I saw an AA 777 doing touch and goes on a Saturday morning up at MCI.

User currently offlineJohn G From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 986 times:

Virgin Atlantic send their trainees to do touch and go exercises at Belfast International very frequently - they can do them for 6 or 8 hr stretches at a time.

User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 959 times:

Hello who folks live in Indianapolis!

Did you see any of United DC10,747,767,777 or 757 in Indianapolis airport? Indianapolis has United maintenance facility base.

Thanks..


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3225 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 943 times:

BWIA has done touch-and-go operations at its POS base. When I was in secondary school I had a view overlooking POS and was able to see their MD83s and L-1011-500s do touch-and-go in the afternoons, when air traffic was light. I do not know when or where they do them now, especially as POS air traffic has grown somewhat.

Trintocan.



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User currently offlineTcttx From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 941 times:

I saw a PA A300 (or A310?) at BDL back in the late 80s.

User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 952 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 920 times:

When I first moved to Louisville, I can remember UPS doing touch & gos @ Standiford Field with their B747s. A friend of mine and I went to a college football game (Louisville vs Cincinnati) and the stadium was located right next to the airfield. Well, everybody was enjoying the game, except I was looking up in the air watching heavies going around and around; very cool!!! Unfortunately training flights are not allowed @ Louisville anymore, because of resident complains.

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User currently offlineWannabe From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 677 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 904 times:

Good ole SWF (Stewart Airport) in Newburgh, NY has it happen often. Since it has a large runway (11,000 feet), not much traffiic, and is only 80 miles north of JFK, we get all types around here. Besides C5 from the NY Air National Guard base here, I 've seen UA 777, numerous A-300, 767, 737, 727 and DC-8 (Emory Air). We even had the Concorde spend a few hours doing touch and goes about three years ago. In fact, if anyone knows how to get a schedule of these events, I could get some really good pictures to post. I live about 6 miles from the airport and in the approach pattern, but usually by the time I react and get over there, the show is over!!!

User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11528 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 898 times:

When I lived in Pendleton, OR (PDT), I would see 737s doing touch and gos all the time. They would be painted in all different schemes. The whole town would come out to see it. One time, everyone was so excited that we were getting jet service from Air France. I think Boeing also uses Grant County-Moses Lake for the 777s and the 747s.


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User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 890 times:

I heard that Boeing is using Moses Lake airport for the reasons testing takeoffs and landings before delivery new aircraft to the airlines.


User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 890 times:

In GSO (Greensboro) we used to have VC-25As do touch and goes.

User currently offlineDnalor From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 888 times:

Back in 1983 or 84 I saw a Qantas 747 doing touch and goes at Melbournes Avalon Airport, which has a very long runway and is not really used that much at all

User currently offlineAirliners_rule From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 882 times:

AT YHM I have seen AC DC-9s doing touch and goes. About 2 months ago there was un A310 doing touch and goes but I couldnt see the airline becasue the jet was directly over my house and it was in the evening and like in the early 90 everyday there would either be a AC 747 767 doing touch and goes and I have seen a few Royal and others doing touch and goes.

User currently offlineTWA717_200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 881 times:

Hi guys. I live here in COS. Peterson AFB and KCOS are the same facility. They share runways.

There is a lot of flight testing and crew training conducted here at COS for a couple of reasons, it's high altitude and relative low amount of traffic.

I've seen Delta's 764 here on several occasions doing TNG's and recently an unidentified 717 has been around.

I live about 5 miles south of the airport and directly under the flight path (I feel lucky for that). It's a great place to spot from.


User currently offlineUal1636 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 876 times:

Hey. It's nice to know that someone else in this forum lives in Colorado springs. You must live in fountain or widefield, right? Well, anyways, why are all touch and go's at COS on 17L or 35L and never 35R or 17R or 12/30? Thanks. See ya.

User currently offlinePerthWA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 876 times:

Whats Tower Air got to do with the price of eggs?

Forgive but Im Australian, I dont quite know the things you Americans do )

Mind, I have seen a F28 do touch and goes all day long at Perth Airport. I always presumed it was just training!


User currently offlineTWA717_200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 873 times:

Hey there. Yep, I'm in Widefield, about 1/2 mile SW of the park that UAL 585 crashed in.

I think you might be right about the TNG thing. The last time I saw DAL's 764 here, it was using 17L. I can't think of any reason for that so it must be just coincidence.

The only planes that I have seen use 30 are the Academy's Dash 6 and private single pistons. I can't see the approach path of 12 from where I am so I don't know about that one.

Have you found any good spotting locations? Seems to me that if you could park off of Marksheffel you could get a good view of 35R/17L.


User currently offlineUal1636 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 864 times:

Hey. Most of the places I like to spot at are on or around Peterson. My favorite place is on Stewart Road on Peterson near the golf course. You are about 300 yards in front of 17L lined up. It's really cool. On a rare wind free day you can actually feel the wake turbulence. See ya.

User currently offlineDnalor From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 863 times:

Did the F28 have a blue and white paint sceme? Ithink you'll find its CASA's F28 doing ILS calibrations, which does include alot of touch and goes 

25 PerthWA : I really cant remember, although I have a feeling it was just a Ansett F28. I havent seen it been done for a while now, but as you most probably know,
26 L-188 : Reeve Aleutian took their 727's down to Cold Bay, Ak. in 83 when they first got them...I remember as a kid watching the plane touch down from the dini
27 Post contains images Bacardi182 : when i was a very, very, very little kid. we used to live near farenbraugh(spelling?). or maybe it was before i was born. anyways, we used to always s
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