Antiuser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11327 times:
Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter): ou can't physically open a door in a pressurized cabin during flight without mechanical assistance
I know that and you know that. However, I'm willing to bet at least 80% of the people on that plane have no idea and probably some people got very disturbed by the fact that someone attempted to open the door.
Ikramerica From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11314 times:
well my dad was in a helicopter over new york when a freaked out pax did open the emergency door. it fell off and hit a taxi on the roof. the copter landed safely, and the poor freaked out man was arrested. even then, the pax on the copter weren't in any danger unless they took off their belts.
but that was only at a few hundred feet after taking off and in an unpressurized cabin.
KennyK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 11271 times:
I bet she got in a huff with a FA and said "That's it I'm getting off"
Seriously though, I was on a Loganair Saab 340 from Shetland to Edinburgh 5 years ago when a male passenger stood up grasping his chest and started grabbing for an over wing exit. We were near Orkney at the time at around 15k feet, some passengers grabbed him in panic then thought he was having a heart attack. The stewardess asked if a doctor was on the plane, as I was a first aider, (they teach you well in the Air Force), I got him in the back seat row, calmed him down and found out he was having an anxiety attack. We made an emergency diversion to Kirkwall in the Orkneys just in case, but that's another story.
I know that without Mechanical assistance you cannot open an a/c door in flight.
The B747 has hand operated doors but the B767 and DC-10 have electronic operated doors. If there weren't any bolts holding the B767 and DC-10 doors from opening in flight would that mean that they could open as they have mechanical assistance?
ViasaMSY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10004 times:
CNN reported the story this morning and it is in their web site.
They said that "....She failed but did manage to turn the handle far enough that a warning light went on in the cockpit" .
However they never mentioned that it would be impossible to actually open the door leaving many people thinking, I am sure, that it is possible to open a door in flight. I didn't think that turning the handle was even possible. Is it? I thought that the handles were secured once that the doors were secured by the crew befor take off.
Ikramerica From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9552 times:
Quoting 767Lover (Reply 21): By the way, how did that D.L. Somebody-or-other open the door on that 727 back in the 70s (the guy who jumped out with all that cash)?
Yep, he knew what he was doing. The only door you can open in flight like that is the rear stair on the 727 DC9, etc. It is not a plug style door, but a "drawbridge" style and would actually want to open very much given a chance.
Even at 4000 feet, with the already pressurized cabin and the vacuum effect of traveling at 200+ mph, opening the plug style door manually would have been very close to impossible for a woman, and even then, it probably wouldn't have posed much danger to the pax, as they were all strapped in and non-pressurized vehicles travel with open portals at 4000 feet all the time.
MD11Engineer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9332 times:
Yes, but the 727 airstairs are in an unpressurised area (the tail cone is not pressurized). The big door in the rear pressure bulkhead is a plug type door. You will never get it open without a hydraulic jack.
And for the 767 and DC-10 / MD-11, all the motor / counterweight mechanism does is to help to lift the door upwards. The door is a plug type door as well. On the MD-11 the lift motor will lift the appr. 200 kg door, but it will not be able to pull it in against 10 tons of air pressure.
On the 767 the door is simply lifted by a huge spring, which balances the weight of the door.
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