Indy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4596 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted
Thu Aug 4 2005 19:47:04 UTC (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2275 times:
Don't blame it on the legal system. Blame it on the jurors. Unfortunately all too often we have the same brain dead bunch sitting in the jury box here as well.
Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
Backfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted
Thu Aug 4 2005 20:16:28 UTC (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2206 times:
Originally I thought that this was simple text-banter which had got out of control - silly but not intentionally malicious.
But when I read through the entire text message exchange, it was blatantly clear in my mind that there was deliberate encouragement to throw a bomb scare and delay the flight:
Sceats (the accused): “Can you call the police. There is a bomb on board. The flight is 8.10. Leaving from Stansted. Going to Dublin. The number is 999. Do it now.”
Her friend asks if she is "serious".
Sceats: “Absolutely. Hurry up. Do it from the payphone outside. Put on an accent. Tell them there is a man with a gun to your head telling you to make the phone call.”
BHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted
Thu Aug 4 2005 21:08:43 UTC (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2120 times:
How did that end up before a jury? Couldn't a magistrate have dealt with it?
6 months probation, £10,000 fine plus the 15k costs, and deportation would've been a good start.
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Gipper913 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 176 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted
Thu Aug 4 2005 22:13:17 UTC (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2011 times:
Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC ( Reply 3): How did that end up before a jury? Couldn't a magistrate have dealt with it?
That has to do with the difference in legal systems between the US/UK model and most of the legal systems in Continental Europe.
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Mhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted
Thu Aug 4 2005 23:21:21 UTC (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1925 times:
Waste of time -
FR are very strict on closing check in 40 minutes before departure!
She shouldn't have got off - if the friend had called on the basis of the first text message perhaps. But with a response like that? Harldy sounds like a joke, does it?
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MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14140 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted
Thu Aug 4 2005 23:25:56 UTC (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1905 times:
The judge will look if she is likely to reoffend in future and if the state's expenses for e.g. unemployment for her and a prison sentence are higher than if lets her go with a warning.
Many people are let off with a strict warning and never reoffend, because they have learned their lesson. Additionaly making her pay the fine will give her a warning as well.
Bennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7817 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted
Thu Aug 4 2005 23:34:17 UTC (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1883 times:
Also, I understand that she was due to return to Oz to go to Uni.
Her enforced stay in the UK put a stop to that.
Personally, I think that she was lucky with jury. However, it is down to the jury, which is a system which will throw a wobbly sometimes.