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Aeromexico Incident July 31th @ Mmmx  
User currently offlineAvioneto From Mexico, joined Jun 2005, 27 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

Last Sunday I was arriving from ORD to MEX and while taxi to my assigned gate I saw firefighters in action over an Aeromexico 762 engine (XA-TNS), and when I got out my MX A320 I run over the gate 23 where the 762 was parked and I took this picture linked below, is not a good one because all surrounding security personnel just jumped over me when I took my camera over the window. After some days my friend Ricardo M. told me that it was a problem with a fuel pump which started licking fuel over the apron and no fire was reported. Seems AM have to start thinking on 762 replacements... don't u think?

http://img14.imgspot.com/u/05/211/23/762amx.jpg

[Edited 2005-08-05 03:14:30]

[Edited 2005-08-05 03:16:40]


El Avioneto Jr. MMMX
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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

"Seems AM have to start thinking on 762 replacements... don't u think?"


AMEN...


User currently offlineSTARalliance24 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 378 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 1):
"Seems AM have to start thinking on 762 replacements... don't u think?"

Totally agree!!!!
 bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

Actually I was quoting Avioneto, but what the hell, we all three agree.

User currently offlineSTARalliance24 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 378 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 2497 times:

O sorry. But I had to say that I toatally agreed with you.  Smile

User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 935 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 2486 times:

Oh My God!!! "I almost somewhat vaguely agree with some of what you are vaguely are saying?!?!?!? We should look at that very fuzzy picture and concur that because there are vehicles parked around that plane for whatever reason AM should spend at least millions upon millions of dollars to replace this junk plane that is a flying deathtrap and a biohazard at the same time. The photo says it all. Let's all just jump to lame conclusions.

User currently offlineSTARalliance24 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 378 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

Quoting Notdownnlocked (Reply 5):
Oh My God!!! "I almost somewhat vaguely agree with some of what you are vaguely are saying?!?!?!? We should look at that very fuzzy picture and concur that because there are vehicles parked around that plane for whatever reason AM should spend at least millions upon millions of dollars to replace this junk plane that is a flying deathtrap and a biohazard at the same time. The photo says it all. Let's all just jump to lame conclusions

Wo WO dude. I know the 767-200 is an amazing aircraft but its getting pretty old now. I don't want to start anything here.

regards Bryan


User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 935 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Well Star you agreed that because of the fuzzy picture you witnessed and the unsubstantiated opinions of others that this plane needed to be replaced. There are no other ways this plane could be repaired if in fact there was a problem. It's a good thing those that are tasked with repairing and making these decisions don't just rely on a photo and opinions of a few here. Just lay out tens of millions here and there and all would be well. Do you trade in your car because it needs gas or has a flat tire?

User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Notdownlocked. We agree that AM needs to replace its fleet, the fuzzy picture its irrelevant. These are AM's 767 routes and their competition on the same route:

1- MAD AM 767 Iberia, A340-600, A340-300
2- CDG AM 767 AF 747-400, B777
3- GRU AM 767 Varig B777
4- SCL AM 767-200 LAN 767-300 sometimes

If Aeromexico was to open new routes to Europe, their aging 767s would have to compete against the European 747-400s (BA, KLM, LH). I didn't even look at the pic. when I first reply to this topic.


User currently offlineN405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2287 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 3):
Actually I was quoting Avioneto, but what the hell, we all three agree.

You´re no.3

Quoting STARalliance24 (Reply 4):
O sorry. But I had to say that I toatally agreed with you.

Number 4

Count me number 5.....



Life is what happens when you have other plans.....
User currently offlineElPelon From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2160 times:

AM REALLY needs to replace it´s 767-200.. Everytime I am in MEX, i notice that that the AM flights going to Europe or South America are delay because of technical problems.. and sometimes it has happened to me, when I fly them..

Also they are being over used.. Someone (who knows better about this than me) please make a comparition of the number of AM 767 flights Vs Number of aircraft.. I just don´t know how can they make all those 767 weekly flights possible, with that number of aircrafts.. (5 I guees)

Regards,
ElPelon



ElPelon
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2056 times:

How old are these B767?

User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 795 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

I was working that day at the airport and was at gate 19 when the incident happened. What I heard from my supervisor was that it was a problem with the -fueling truck- and not one of AMX's alleged flying death traps.

From what I gather from my humble observations the past 2 months, AM's 767 flights to europe aren't particularly delayed more often than other airline's long haul flights. Sometimes AF is late, sometimes LH is late, sometimes KL or RG is late..

Replacement for the 762s is probably not coming anytime soon.. it's more than obvious now that the 763 is a poor performer out of MEX. The 777s are already coming, but they can't replace all 762 flights.. the 777 is too big of a plane for flights to SCL for example.


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Let me reiterate my previous question...

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 11):
How old are these B767?


User currently offlineAvioneto From Mexico, joined Jun 2005, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

AMX 762 are 1990's (XA-TNS,XA-TOJ,XA-JBC,XA-RVZ)


El Avioneto Jr. MMMX
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

Quoting Avioneto (Reply 14):
AMX 762 are 1990's (XA-TNS,XA-TOJ,XA-JBC,XA-RVZ)

At last.

THANKS Avioneto!


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

And here we have one more from last Sunday, August 14th @ MMMX.

Aircraft was arriving to its gate when suddenly a slide in the front dropped just like that!




BTW - The July 31st was a mx issue! A very serious mx issue I must say. Thank god incident was at ground! Fortunately nothing happen minutes before landing or during the flight of its previous flight that day.

It's a fact! B762s at AM's fleet are done! Specially TOJ,TNS,RVZ,JBC as they had several previous operators.


Ricardo APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

Couldn´t we expect a 1990 aircraft to last a bit longer if properly maintained?

I have flown them several times to CDG, no problems though!!

Henpol747



Vive la France! ¡Viva México!
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

Quoting Henpol747 (Reply 17):
Couldn´t we expect a 1990 aircraft to last a bit longer if properly maintained?

Thing is/problem is that those B762s have been everywhere! And mx has been very irregular! Those planes were previously flown by 4 different operators, and every airline has different mx procedures, etc! But AM suffers a lot with them. For instance, the rest of their frames (MD80s/B737s/B757s) have been delivered to them or they've been operated by one or the most two carriers!!! But not 4!!! Anyways, I've also flown AM's B762s and I have no complain!! But AM better take their precautions!!


Ricardo APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1565 times:

Quoting Avioneto (Thread starter):
...it was a problem with a fuel pump which started licking fuel over the apron

Did it taste good at least?

Just being silly,
RM  Smile



There are no stupid questions... just stupid people!
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1500 times:


Sure looks busy.
Fuel pump from Engine or Hydrant.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineTheredbaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2212 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

Opsss somebody forgot to dis-arm the front slide...or got too nervous with the fuel problem...


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