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User currently offlineUSFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2124 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12552 times:

Today I had a passenger try to check-in for a flight without a shirt or shoes on. I didn't even consult our company policy, I just told him that he has to fly with shirt and shoes on for health reasons, like the supermarket. Am I wrong in thinking that this passenger was an idiot? Has anyone else ever experienced this?

FYI, he had nice abs but his feet were kind of smelly.

USFlyer MSP

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User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12493 times:

Quoting USFlyer MSP (Thread starter):
Today I had a passenger try to check-in for a flight without a shirt or shoes on. I didn't even consult our company policy, I just told him that he has to fly with shirt and shoes on for health reasons, like the supermarket. Am I wrong in thinking that this passenger was an idiot? Has anyone else ever experienced this?

All I can say to this is wow.

Wow.

Wow.

HAHA

What a terrible thing to even remotely have to explain to someone eh? Someone grew up without a mommy or daddy to teach them right, either that or they really are just trash.

(the passenger, that is)

1011yyz



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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12457 times:

No, I think you are right on in your response. His assumption that it is acceptable to show up for a flight in this manner is just another symptom of the larger problems in our society. But that particular soapbox is probably for another forum...


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User currently offlineDispatcher From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 254 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12352 times:

At least security would have an easy time searching him, maybe we should all dress like that...  Smile

User currently offlineTGBoi From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2005, 52 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12293 times:

Quoting USFlyer MSP (Thread starter):
Today I had a passenger try to check-in for a flight without a shirt or shoes on. I didn't even consult our company policy, I just told him that he has to fly with shirt and shoes on for health reasons, like the supermarket. Am I wrong in thinking that this passenger was an idiot? Has anyone else ever experienced this?

Was in an indentical situation not too long ago and did they same thing as you did. So you are not alone.

Quoting USFlyer MSP (Thread starter):
FYI, he had nice abs

It's the airport!!!!! Not the gym!!!!!!! Btw, to flawn his abs, he could have worn a shirt with a see-through / plastic sheet at the abs... eyepopping 

Quoting USFlyer MSP (Thread starter):
but his feet were kind of smelly

Yuck.... having breakfast while reading this thread  vomit 


User currently offlineAerofan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12245 times:

isn't that the whole -i paid for a ticket so i can do what i want and u better do what i say mentality that seems to be continually espoused here? how dare u not board him. he was a paying pax with a nice bod after all.

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12220 times:

Insert usual Southwest class of passenger insult here.....

Some people just don't have a clue about things. Nearly four years after 9/11 and people are still carrying banned items with them to the airport in the carryons. Then get angry when the TSA screener makes them surrender the item.

As for the passenger attire, most people tend to dress for a flight as comfortably as possible, but the next step down from this guy is someone trying to get on wearing a thong. I'm not saying airlines should force a dress code for all passengers (although I feel that a business/first class passenger shouldn't look like a slob regard of how much they paid for the seat or how many F.F. miles they used to get that seat.), but perhaps a "Tips for travel" guide should be part of every ticket that is sold, as some folks just seem as though they pack their brain in their checked bags.


User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12155 times:

It's emblematic of our culture....look at all the Thinkpad ads that tell us it's an on demand world (as if that explained anything)....first thing you know some arsehole starts believing it and worse acting out and getting angry when the rest of us try and disabuse him of the notion....

Put the headphones on him and make him listen to "You Can't Always Get What You Want" for the whole flight and put him in the aisle next to the 300 pound hairy dude in the thong.......ecccccccccccccccch there went my lunch.
God what a great diversion.


User currently offlineHZ747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12138 times:
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Pathetic. What a worthless piece of human debris...

Seriously, I get annoyed when someone wears a tank top to board a plane unless it is a hot chick showing lots of cleavage usually headed towards a sunny destination. And it is not just WN, I have seen it on other airlines--my favorite is black garbage bag for a carryon.

PS Did he not a shirt and/or shoes in his luggage that he could just easily remove and toss on?

PPS There was a story a while back on Page Six in the New York Post about Val Kilmer flying to New York to start a European vacation and he did not have any luggage. But at this dinner party he was talking to a man who had keys to Barney's or something, so they let him rack up $8 000 in clothes and luggage costs after closing. Oh to be rich...



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User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1428 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12107 times:

Maybe he thought he was flying for nakedair or nudeair...whatever that carter airline is that flew naked people to CUN....even them required people to have clothes on until normal altitude was reached or somethin like that


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User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12055 times:

Quoting USFlyer MSP (Thread starter):
his feet were kind of smelly

An even better decision then.

I guess that air travel is becoming much less of an event today. I guess that is the result when it becomes accessible for just about anyone.

Cruiser



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User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12018 times:

My mother told me that in the 1940's / 50s people used to put on their best clothes for a flight. It was a very special event. Good he was not naked. Obviously an exhibitionist who wanted to show off his abs. You did the right thing.

User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5236 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12005 times:

You know, it still pays to dress nicely, whether for travel or otherwise. If I wear a coat and tie to fly, I always get treated nicely.

User currently offlineSwisskloten From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11968 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 6):
Some people just don't have a clue about things. Nearly four years after 9/11 and people are still carrying banned items with them to the airport in the carryons. Then get angry when the TSA screener makes them surrender the item.

The people at security are still finding firearms and knives in baggage every so often. I just don't get it. Maybe I never will!


User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11891 times:

Quoting Semsem (Reply 12):
My mother told me that in the 1940's / 50s people used to put on their best clothes for a flight. It was a very special event

Even in the late 70's/early 80's when I was a little kid, my mom dressed me and my brother and sister the best clothes we had whenever we traveled on an airplane, even when it was only a 25 minutes flight from my hometown to the old Jakarta Kemayoran Airport.


User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 11732 times:

that was extreme. but i think you did the right thing.

but something to that extent is crazed. but i feel its nothing wrong with people dressing comfortably for a flight no matter what class they are sitting in. i think flying today, is not so much of an "event" because its becoming more and more the means of travel. before when it first came around, only the elite or people who could afford it flew on planes


User currently offline747400F From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11654 times:

Quoting USFlyer MSP (Thread starter):
I just told him that he has to fly with shirt and shoes on for health reasons,

I can see how you got away with the demand for shoes for health reasons (All kinds of nastyness in the carpet around toilets on aircrafts) but how did you get away with demanding a shirt for health reasons??? - surely he would question that. Could it be back by any kind of airline regulations that were available to passengers.


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11652 times:

Quoting Semsem (Reply 12):
My mother told me that in the 1940's / 50s people used to put on their best clothes for a flight. It was a very special event. Good he was not naked. Obviously an exhibitionist who wanted to show off his abs. You did the right thing.

Yeah, well when your Mom used to fly, they also served meals with metal forks & knives, real glasses, & real dishes, my have times changed...



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User currently offlineAussiestu From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 780 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11471 times:

Sorry folks but bare torsos in the cabin.......not likely. You would not walk in to restaurants like this so why do you think you can travel on public transport like that. And please dont start with the I paid for my tix I can do what I want replies as there are still some standards in air travel. Can only imagine, what scars he would have after trying to escape from AF flight in Toronto without a shirt????

User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11457 times:

Not unusual to see people flying in shorts and sandals in NZ, even T shirts! and no-one makes any assumptions as to whether they are "trash" or not but wearing a shirt of some form should be compulsory, yeeuch! If you ever need to give a health reason for it you could say that no-one wants to sit in a seat that has been absorbing his bodily discharges for 3 hours.....euwww! Glad I've eaten!!

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11430 times:

Out here While Travelling Most Pax used to wear their Best look.But recently with LCCs creeping up & fares dropping,things are turning more casual.It would be quite some time when We reach this stage though.Afterall this is India.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineMelpax From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 1619 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11414 times:

Just found this on the Virgin Blue site.........

http://www.virginblue.com.au/helpInf...rt/index.php?section=Check+In+Info



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User currently offlinePanamandy From Austria, joined Mar 2005, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11368 times:

i experienced the other extreme !

it was sas business sleeper, i had jeans and a white dress shirt on (everything new and clean but casual) and a lady in fur with approx. 2kilos of diamonds on, smelling like a living chanel no.5 bottle, refused to sit next to me !!

sas had to reseat the whole cabin, until she had a double seat for herself! otherwise she would have disembarked!


User currently offline747400F From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11319 times:

Quoting Panamandy (Reply 23):
sas had to reseat the whole cabin, until she had a double seat for herself! otherwise she would have disembarked!

WTF they should have offloaded that b****! why should she have a double seat to herself?


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11273 times:

"So, whatever your choice of attire, the minimum requirements for travelling adults and children who are capable of walking are shoes (including thongs) when boarding and disembarking the aircraft,"

So, on Virgin Blue, you can go bear foot on the airplane?

No, thank you.

This is from DL's web site:
"Wear loose, comfortable clothing and shoes for your flight."

Unless you are flying on NudeAir, there should be a minimum dress standard.


25 Post contains images GBan : On a flight the same respect for others should be expected as in any other public place. In a theatre, train, plane or restaurant a shirt will be expe
26 Post contains images Andreas : Ah yes nice abs Ok, on those feet I fully agree, but here's a little story of mine...happened 2 days ago on a flight DXB-FRA, LH A343, Business Class
27 GBan : Since I sometimes take off my shoes as well (see post above): Would it have disturbed you if he didn't smell?
28 Post contains images Andreas : Not really since I love to walk on bare feet, too...but I do admit that I find the sight of bare male feet in a surrounding that doesn't immediately
29 BHXFAOTIPYYC : My old roommate had a great sign on his wall- "shirt and shoes must worn, bra and panties optional." Sorry for that. Here at FAO it is amazing to see
30 GBan : Andreas, totally agree. Just comes to my mind that on the long flights I was thinking of I was given slippers by the airline. Should be OK to take off
31 Post contains images Andreas : Exactly...and it's much healthier, too, in terms of blood pressure etc. On Wednesday night, fortunately, it was only 6 hours, watched one movie ("Be
32 PMN : Has to be said, I think the way you describe this person would be more suited to murderers, rapists, paedophiles e.t.c. than a guy not wearing a shir
33 HT : On long-haul flights I always take off my shoes (while still wearing socks) and I slip into either an additional pair of socks provided or one that I
34 AMSSpotter : Describing that particular person as "debris" might do a little too much injustice to him (I admit I laughed my head off when I read it, though) but,
35 NYCFlyer : okay, maybe he's not the scum of the earth, but perhaps words like "slob," "trash," "complete idiot," and "pig" are more appropriate.
36 Ruger11 : I'm suprised no one has mentioned this yet... When I fly I wear thick leather shoes or boots with thick soles, NOTHING nylon or man made materials, a
37 NWASE : IMHO, anyone who removes their shoes on an aircraft shows a total disregard for his/her fellow passengers and should be flogged in public. Don't even
38 747400F : WHat even when on in private?? well, you can have your opinion, personally i could disagree more. Why on earth would wear shos on say a 11 hour Japan
39 Leon8828 : Here in Louisiana, near the coast, some stores have signs which read: "No shoes, No shirt - - No problem" In a coastal community, it is commonplace to
40 B4real : How did you know his feet were smelly?
41 Contrails : As a FF I've seen this before, along with people onboard who haven't bathed in a while; people with obnoxious smelling food they've brought onboard, p
42 NonRevKing : Ha! Like that stops them from taking their shoes off and walking around the cabin...in and out of the lavs...in the galleys...all barefoot. Hell, I c
43 HT : Serious: Anybody who´s dressing for a flight with taking an onboard-fire into account should not forget that it would be best to wear heavy cotton je
44 Post contains images GBan : Right in the aircraft or would I get some time to get mentally prepared?
45 Halls120 : No. He's obviously an idiot.
46 Post contains links JMV : How timely? This was published in the Detroit News just the other day. It is something I've experienced myself. Straighten Up and Fly Right, Dressing
47 LH455 : I absolutely do NOT condone the behavior of the shirtless and shoeless man, but just a reminder that it goes both ways. I flew BA EWR-LHR a few years
48 Skywatch : We have the exact same thing on the Texas coast. Who knows how old they are? The sun has wrinkled and leathered them up so bad it's mpossible to tell
49 Ruger11 : yes, we're expected not to look like a bunch of slobs when off duty. With our high and tight haircuts, and the vast # of tatoos many Marines have, yo
50 Gopal : We all should have a spirit of accommodation as travelers as all of us have a common goal - reaching our destination safely. As flying becomes more ac
51 NonRevKing : Societal norms. Yes. It's called having consideration for those around you. It works both ways. B
52 PMN : I agree 100%. I have no wish whatsoever to sit on a plane next to one of these 'slobs' for 7 hours, I just think things should be kept a little more
53 Jdaniel001 : See what happens when you lower the airfares......All of the LCC's need to just go away or raise their fares 400%......that will keep the trash of the
54 Post contains images AirRyan : My best friend is in the USAF right now and they have him traveling mostly commerical all over the world. He was talking about how many slobs he routi
55 Halls120 : Because it's the decent thing to do. No!
56 Gopal : We as travellers should have consideration for such a traveller. The individial may not have shower facilities at work. He/she has as much right to t
57 Jdaniel001 : Excuse me....do you fly?....do you work for the airlines? Ok...i just checked your profile....i think the answer is no.... No offense...but, the U.S.
58 Jdaniel001 : Uh...sorry. My opinions don't neccesarily reflect that of my employer or any other airline.
59 Ikramerica : You are so wrong, it's sad. If it were bad form to remove shoes on airplanes or other public places, then why do: A. many airlines provide slippers o
60 Goingboeing : I just checked the main US carriers contracts of carriage. All of them specify that they can refuse to transport anyone who is barefoot, but only AA h
61 BWI757 : Not for 4-12 hours at a stretch (I hope!) That's why such systems are referred to as MASS TRANSIT.... BWI757
62 Jeffrey1970 : USFlyer MSP, did the passenger agree to put a shirt and shoes on, or did he give you a hard time?
63 Rafabozzolla : That is because they don't have a choice. In Rio regular buses cost R$ 1.8 (US$ 0.8), but for about double that you can ride on an air-conditioned min
64 NonRevKing : Well, then by that logic, I don't HAVE to shower the whole week before I fly right? I'll make sure to sit next to you. No, I CHOOSE to shower. Know w
65 Gopal : You are missing the point. If you have access to shower facilities and the time then you should make every attempt the be neat and clean when boardin
66 094147 : USFlyer MSP OK! What were you doing with your face on the floor next to his feet? Is this a new form of check-in?
67 Ckfred : If you ask pilots, they will tell you that you should wear long pants and clothes that are 100% natural fibers. These will protect you better, if ther
68 GQfluffy : I'll admit, sometimes I'm not all dressed up. Sometimes I'm just in a t-shirt, jeans/khaki shorts, and tennis shoes/sandals. But I always make sure e
69 NASBWI : I think that's a rather pompous attitude to have, especially towards those who contribute to your salary. The last time I checked, nasty people (i.e.
70 PROSA : "Yes, Madame, I'll move, but before I do so I have one question: how many innocent animals were anally electrocuted to provide the fur for your coat?
71 Post contains images Gipper913 : Amen to that! Or, in lieu of the nearest bus station, directions to the Southwest ticket counter! Same difference! As far as removing shoes during a
72 Post contains links and images Desertwolf98 : I have to know (highly unlikely, as I would be body tackled) what if I walked up to your boarding station dressed like this? http://rhd.dyndns.org/cop
73 DOC : MY FRIEND, YOU DID THE RIGHT THING BY REFUSING HIM TO BOARD THE FLIGHT, CONGRADULATION
74 Post contains images Starlionblue : I'm sorry, did you say jeans and a white dress shirt? That may be acceptable strictly speaking but it's hardly in good taste I'm more likely to be hi
75 Bennett123 : Congratulations. There is no reason why passengers can't board fully dressed and not smelling. On occaison, I have freshened up in the airport toilets
76 VEEREF : This has been touched on previously but- Scenario- suppose an Air Transat A330 scenario plays out on a transatlantic flight over Greenland in the wint
77 Legacy135 : You did very well not transporting him, Congratulations! To all of yours, telling he was paying for his ticket so.... Even if he pays first class full
78 Starlionblue : I get the reasons, but I just don't go as far. I do read the card every time and listen to the briefing. I do check for my nearest exit. I should als
79 VEEREF : Consideration for others and personal hygene is what makes us different from rats and other vermin, isn't it? Kudos on not letting that guy on the pla
80 Jdaniel001 : I think your reading into this the wrong way.....I want people to fly but they need to be clean. The farmer was the example that Gopal used. But back
81 Post contains images EnviroTO : Thats what I was thinking. Why go through the hassle of removing shoes and getting felt up at the security check point? Simply go wearing only a bath
82 EmiratesA345 : With all due respect, but why should bus passengers be subject to these individuals and their less then desirable smells and appearance? In my opinio
83 Post contains images Grude1087 : As late as the 70s, my folks always told me to dress nicely for a flight. I'm with you. I couldn't imagine even wearing nicely pressed short pants an
84 Miguelss : It is sad to note that this kind of behavior is typical from G8 and other wealthy countries; I have never run into such situation neither heard someth
85 Bluewave 707 : USFlyer, you did the right thing! THe guy might have drawn attention from the females on the flight, but sounds like he just came from the gym without
86 HZ747300 : PMN, I would hate for you to have the wrong idea--Like the Gipper said, we have a tradition of piling on--where you blast someone well beyond what wa
87 USFlyer MSP : He was very compliant, although I really didn't give him any other options. It was an order, not a request. He was more embarassed than anything else
88 AMSSpotter : I don't agree with you. What you're basically saying (at least, that's how I read it) is, that poor and/or sloppy people should ride the bus and take
89 Desertwolf98 : I've flown "hillbilly air" (southwest, seems to be a dislike a little in this thread for southwest) 5 times (once to California and back, another time
90 Post contains images Gipper913 : Speaking for myself (since I had a few jabs at WN pax in this thread) it isn't hate for WN the airline nor WN's employees but rather good-natured rib
91 Semsem : > Agreed. Only a very few airlines left nowadays that give overall decent service in economy class. By this I mean; decent legroom with wide enough se
92 Post contains images NASBWI : That I can agree with... ...that, I don't; it just seemed from your post (or at least that part of it) that you were trying to allude to some status-
93 JGPH1A : Tatoo's being of course the last word in elegant and restrained good taste ! Of course the poster of the thread was quite right to insist that the pa
94 Post contains images Acidradio : I saw a whole mullet family once at work. The husband looked like Cletus on the Simpsons and was wearing a "wife beater". The wife must have weighed 3
95 Post contains images Skydrol : I have to admit I've been there (years ago)... Visiting my cousin for a weekend in YVR, when only about three hours before my return flight to YWG, my
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