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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 42
Posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

How did the two Boeing 767-275s make their way to AC fleet (having the Canadian customer number 75)? Registrations of these a/c are C-GPWA and WB, line numbers 36 and 52.

Did CP order 767-200s with PW engines back in the eighties and never took delivery? I believe these are the only 275s around, CP only has 300s with GE engines, right?

Thanks in advance.

LH747


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User currently offlineRamprat From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 188 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

I believe they were owned by Canadian Pacific and then sold to Air Canada somewhere about the time that Pacific Western and Canadian Pacific and Wardair were combined. Thst's what I was told anyway.

User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

Those two airplanes are ex: Pacific Western airplanes, which were sold to AC just before PWA joined up with CPair to create Canadian Airlines International


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User currently offlineAC183 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

This pair of aircraft were Pacific Western aircraft, and were sold to Air Canada, as Slawko said, just before the merger as part of fleet standardization. The -x75 designation has always been Pacific Western, CPAir was -x17. Don't forget that it was actually PWA that bought out CP, this is why the -x75 designation was retained for the newly formed Canadian Airlines International way back in 1987.

CPAir also ordered 767-200's back in the early '80's, but never took delivery. The 767 orders were changed to 737-300's (I don't believe the 767-217's ever reached the production line), and the 733's subsequently saw 3 different liveries and then were sold before PWA bought out CPAir, so they never went into service with Canadian Airlines.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

Thanks a lot for the info. I flew C-GPWB recently YYZ-YUL. And AC183 thanks for the correction about the designations, I had no idea about that.

LH747



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User currently offlineAir Canada From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1378 times:

Hey all,

One other thing about the B767-275's in AC's fleet. These two a/c are the only two 767's in AC's fleet that have the regular forward cargo door instead of a pallet door.
The regular forward cargo door is smaller (the same size as the rear cargo door) than a pallet door. A pallet door allows for pallets with larger/heaver cargo to be loaded in the forward hold.
Take a look at the following examples. The American Airlines 767 pic has a regular forward cargo door, and the Malev Hungarian Airlines plane has a pallet door.

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Just an extra little tid-bit about the 275's.
Phil


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