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Allegiant Begins SBN To LAS Today  
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3090 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3767 times:

Courtesy: WNDU-TV

http://www.wndu.com/news/082005/news_43886.php

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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3711 times:

What other major cities has SBN had and lost in the past?


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User currently offlineTedex From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

IND, STL, PIT?

I think American Eagle also used to serve ORD. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this...


User currently offlineAtcrick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3695 times:
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UFS (United Feeder Service) used to run SBN-ORD as United Express with their ATP aircraft. Circa mid 90's I would say.


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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3692 times:

What about Florida cities or washington DC?


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

That picture in the article was taken at the Sunset viewing area, hope they got permission from whoever took it!  whistleblower 

G4 continues to add routes to Sin city. How about a couple of new planes! I want to see a brand new 738 coming in to IFP with G4 colors. Not very likely though  ashamed 


User currently offlineCrjonbeez From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 317 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

when chicago express pulled out, we lost MDW and IND. when USAir Exp pulled out, we lost PIT. when Eagle pulled out, we lost ORD. when American Connection pulled out, we lost STL. you could say over the past 4 years or so, SBN has taken quite the beating.

currently, we serve ORD via UAL, DTW & MSP via NWA, CVG & ATL via DAL, CLE via Continental, and now LAS with Allegiant.

it's nice to see an airline step IN to south bend instead of out! they claim that depending on the market demands, there is a possibility of flights to orlando as well.


User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3569 times:
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Quoting Crjonbeez (Reply 6):
it's nice to see an airline step IN to south bend instead of out! they claim that depending on the market demands, there is a possibility of flights to orlando as well.

Thats pretty much of a possibility for most of our cities. Market demand is good, why not try Orlando as well? I hope SBN works well for us.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 5):
G4 continues to add routes to Sin city. How about a couple of new planes! I want to see a brand new 738 coming in to IFP with G4 colors. Not very likely though

Thats the spirit! Never give up hope but continue to be realistic!

Atc Rick



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User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4541 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3541 times:

Rick...

Any word on any new cities up coming? Talk on USAFlying is that YNG is expected soon,



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User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3536 times:
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Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 8):
Any word on any new cities up coming? Talk on USAFlying is that YNG is expected soon,

I haven't heard that one. SPS is starting 9/16. And we're starting SFB-SGF sometime in the next month or so. I fully expect to hear expansion out of SFB to destinations in the Northeast in the near future.

Stay tuned everybody,


Atc Rick



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3520 times:

Quoting Crjonbeez (Reply 6):
USAir Exp pulled out, we lost PIT.


That loss was the beginning of my anti-US sentiments, long before the rest of the total raping that PIT took from them. Those ERJ's were hard to get seats on even, and they definitely weren't cheap, makes you wonder how you lose money on an expensive fare route, when you're the only airline going that far east with that kind of a NE Network, and you're flying full planes every day. Oh wait, you're US, you could screw up anything and in your haste to leave the Midwest/Great Lakes region AND PIT, you didn't care what flights got cut.

SBN is a nice little airport, and convenient as anything, the shame about it is their lack of advertising and whatnot. Most people even in Porter County think "It's too expensive" and don't even try to fly from SBN, when the extra $50 you might spend makes up for the extra tolls/gas/parking it takes to get to ORD/MDW. Taking the South Shore train is too convenient too, the problem is that the SS misses the decent sized cities of Merrillville, Valparaiso (and university center in this case) and LaPorte while hitting places like Chesterton and Michigan City.

PS: You've also landed a CoEx ERJ to CLE in the near future mixed in with your B1900s.


User currently offline717-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

With G4's emphasis on flights from LAS to mid and smaller sized markets I
would think places in the south that are underserved like GSO and TYS
would make good additions on their LAS routes. Would their MD-80's have
long enough range in both directions to and from the above mentioned
cities?



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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3791 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3490 times:

Atcrick, how are those promises coming?

User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3497 times:
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717-200,

Unfortuately the MD-83 does not have the range to do GSO-LAS or TYS-LAS unless their only about half full.

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 12):
Atcrick, how are those promises coming?

I'm workin on it!!!! Those marketing people can be really stubborn but I think I'm wearing them down!!



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User currently offlineJeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 594 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3453 times:

The deal has been completed on 5 former JetsGo aircraft. There is a lot of work to be done on them but they will be entering service this year most likely.

User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3438 times:
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Quoting Jeb94 (Reply 14):
The deal has been completed on 5 former JetsGo aircraft

Good afternoon Jeb. My understanding is that 3 out of the 5 were in good shape but the other two had some serious issues. Including FOD damage on one. But Boeing said its all 5 or none and we worked out some kind of a deal. Hopefully they will be in better shape that the on going saga of 873GA.

Rgds,

Rick



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User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

Quoting Atcrick (Reply 3):
UFS (United Feeder Service) used to run SBN-ORD as United Express with their ATP aircraft. Circa mid 90's I would say.

I flew on an ATP ORD-SBN up through 2000


User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3397 times:

I have not been to SBN in several years...but is the C "concourse" still just a cement floor and shed type structure?


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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3791 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

Quoting ATCRick (Reply 13):
I'm workin on it!!!! Those marketing people can be really stubborn but I think I'm wearing them down!!

do you really talk with them?


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

Quoting ATCRick (Reply 7):
Thats the spirit! Never give up hope but continue to be realistic!

Being a SCY and G4 fan you have to!

Hey ATCRick,

Does G4 have any plans on getting some scheduled flights into IFP?


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3374 times:

Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 17):
I have not been to SBN in several years...but is the C "concourse" still just a cement floor and shed type structure?

No


User currently offlineCidflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2268 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 12):
Atcrick, how are those promises coming?

CID-SFB please ATCRick!!  

[Edited 2005-08-07 07:21:57]

User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

forget about cid-sfb...what about cos-sfb or a tag on to the fnl flight?????


bus driver.......move that bus:)
User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3305 times:
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Quoting Cidflyer (Reply 21):
CID-SFB please ATCRick!!

I haven't forgotten about you either! I think you are a front runner for service.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Hey ATCRick,

Does G4 have any plans on getting some scheduled flights into IFP?

Not that I have heard of. IFP is a tough market when it comes to scheduled service. I'm not sure the demand is there.

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 22):
forget about cid-sfb...what about cos-sfb or a tag on to the fnl flight?????

FNL-SFB would never make it non-stop. Short runway and high altitude. Even COS would be tough, especially in the Summer. BTW, good to hear from you again.

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 18):
do you really talk with them?

Some times. But being a small company it's not tough to "hear" things.

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 16):
I flew on an ATP ORD-SBN up through 2000

Really? I thought UFS folded long before 2000. Thanx for the info.



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User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3274 times:

Quoting ATCRick (Reply 23):
Really? I thought UFS folded long before 2000. Thanx for the info.

I went back and checked, it was February 1999, so close to 2000  Smile


25 ATCRick : Do you happen to know off hand when UFS folded? Anybody?
26 NIKV69 : It is only there in the winter months. SCY adds so many flights in the winter. Still think they could fill a MD-80 from certain cities. Who knows.
27 ATCRick : Maybe its something we'll look into after we put our own station people in IFP. Right now our contract ground handlers down there are nothing but trou
28 Post contains images NIKV69 : I can imagine. I think SCY has their own people there. That seems to be the way to go. Get me on the payroll I will unload your planes!
29 Post contains images KcrwFlyer : they already have LAS , get back in line and rick, put in a good word for us if you can, mention that every gambling charter goes out full:D keep us
30 TAN FLYR : Thru the 70's and into 1980 SBN had 4 UA 737's daily to ORD as well as 3 to CLE and a 727-100 to DEN. After UA closed the CLE hub, ZW served SBN (as w
31 7E72004 : thanks for the info TAN FLYR...kind of weird to think SBN had service like that..but i guess that was the case with a lot of small airports prior to a
32 Misbeehavin : There was also SBN-IND on US, at least until 1997 or 98. Do you know when they stopped that?
33 FATFlyer : I believe the last UFS ATP flights were in Feb 2000. The DOT pulled UFS' certificate in March of 2000. I got to fly on a few flights ORD-CAK-YNG in t
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