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Threat Against Southwest Plane; Lands At Hobby  
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5680 times:

CNN is showing live feed of Southwest 21 at Hobby. It landed after a "threat to the aircraft". 141 people were onboard. More information as it comes....

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User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5638 times:

Air Marshalls genereally would have little reason to fly SWA I would think?

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5630 times:

Passengers now leaving the plane via stairs...

User currently offlinePl4nekr4zy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5574 times:

FOX news is saying there was a note found by a passeneger. Hmm...


"Don't forget to bring a towel!"
User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5558 times:

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 1):
Air Marshalls genereally would have little reason to fly SWA I would think?

I don't see why they'd treat WN differently than any other carrier.



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1984 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5528 times:

According to CNN, Flt 21 was a 757 flying Dallas-Fort Worth to Houston (IAH) with 145 people on board. GGGGRRRRRR!!!

And I thought flt 21 was Dallas-Love/HOU/Corpus Christi on a 737 with 136+5 crew. Silly me.

[Edited 2005-08-05 20:51:52]


My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlinePl4nekr4zy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5515 times:

Just reported: "It took less than five minutes to get everyone off the plane." I find it interesting that it took less than TWO to get all the pax off the Air France plane a few days ago, yet it takes FIVE to get everyone off a 737???

Maybe they weren't in as much of a hurry since unlike the AF plane, the 737 hadn't crashed, but still, if there was a bomb possibly on board I'd be high-tailin' it outa there.



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User currently offlineQwerty From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5466 times:

Anyone get the tail number?

CNN saying HOU FBI is assisting in a bomb sweep and TSA has the lead. Not terrorism. Note found by PAX given to CREW on hop between DAL and HOU.

[Edited 2005-08-05 21:00:11]

User currently offlineQwerty From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5448 times:

Quoting Pl4nekr4zy (Reply 6):
I find it interesting that it took less than TWO to get all the pax off the Air France plane a few days ago, yet it takes FIVE to get everyone off a 737???

'cause they are using a single airstair and no chutes deployed.

Correction, routing was DAL to Corpus diverted to HOU.


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5448 times:

Just reported: "It took less than five minutes to get everyone off the plane."

That would be impossible as CNN has been showing pax leaving the plane for the past 10 minutes...For whatever reason, they are only allowing one passenger to leave the plane at a time (perhaps they are questioning each passenger before they leave?).


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5434 times:

Correction, routing was DAL to Corpus diverted to HOU.


Nope, it was DAL to HOU, HOU to Corpus diverted back to HOU.


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5409 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 5):
According to CNN, Flt 21 was a 757 flying Dallas-Fort Worth to Houston (IAH) with 145 people on board. GGGGRRRRRR!!!

And I thought flt 21 was Dallas-Love/HOU/Corpus Christi on a 737 with 136+5 crew. Silly me.

[Edited 2005-08-05 20:51:52]

The media really should get its act together concerning airplanes, its really not that difficult.......when the AF A340 had its accident at Toronto, the media was reporting a 737 inbound from Europe, and now SW flies 757s, come on.....

Of course, Southwest did the right thing by getting the aircraft back on the ground as quickly as possible, and security procedures concerning Southwest flights are no different from any other US domestic flight. As for the time it took to evacuate the aircraft, dont count on what the media is saying either.....yes, it took less than 5 minutes, 2 minutes is also less than 5 minutes. So much depends on the circumstances, and please note that the AF cabin crew in Toronto did one amazing job, they are heros and should be recognized as such, they probably saved a lot of lives.

As for this incident, the note thing is problematic.....its usually nothing more than a hoax by a troubled individual....but how can one be sure? I am glad everyone is OK.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5407 times:

Considering it is a criminal investigation and not a plane on fire, I think taking 10 minutes a good thing.

The 2 minute evac of the A343 resulted in injury to some pax. But since the plane was about to explode, there was more urgency...

ANYWAY

Isn't the second time this has happened to WN in a week? Is there some employee with a vendeta at work here? An unhappy AA fan?



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5399 times:

MSNBC is acting like this is the end of the world...

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

With Southwest's open seating policy, I imagine it's difficult to figure out who was seated where.

User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5388 times:

Was flt# 21 original origin DAL or had it come from somewhere else? If so would not that make the passenger on that flight?

I thought if was coming into HOU and requested to land ASAP not taking off and having to come back to HOU?



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User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5370 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 11):
Nope, it was DAL to HOU, HOU to Corpus diverted back to HOU.

Also incorrect.. was operating DAL-HOU when the note was found. Landed in HOU as scheduled.



Maintain 2300 until Boiler, cleared for the VOR-A approach, report BATLE inbound..
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5343 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 14):
MSNBC is acting like this is the end of the world...

It's pretty much a "given" that once there's an accident somewhere, the media will report every non-accident deal (blown tires, weather diversions, bom threats) with the same vigor that the genuinely newsworthy item (the accident) a few days earlier received, even though it doesn't warrant it...

Sad, but true. This mindset usually lasts a week or so, maybe two...


User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 778 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5308 times:

Quoting Qwerty (Reply 9):
Correction, routing was DAL to Corpus diverted to HOU.

All WN fligths to/from CRP are via HOU only.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 12):
The media really should get its act together concerning airplanes, its really not that difficult.......

I know that's right! It only takes a second to pull up any airline’s web site to get the facts right about correct routing, times, equipment, etc. Kind of makes you wonder what else the media gets wrong on other topics, doesn’t it?

[Edited 2005-08-05 21:17:57]

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5292 times:

Also incorrect.. was operating DAL-HOU when the note was found. Landed in HOU as scheduled.

What time did it land in HOU? CNN started showing live coverage of the stairs being put in place around 2:30ish Eastern....


User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 1):
Air Marshalls genereally would have little reason to fly SWA I would think?

I'm not sure what you're getting at?

Quoting Pl4nekr4zy (Reply 6):
I find it interesting that it took less than TWO to get all the pax off the Air France plane a few days ago, yet it takes FIVE to get everyone off a 737???

Thankfully you answered your own question in your own post.

Quoting Junction (Reply 19):
Kind of makes you wonder what else the media gets wrong on other topics, doesn’t it?

Yes. Very much so.



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User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5265 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 20):
What time did it land in HOU?

Landed 12:38 CT



Maintain 2300 until Boiler, cleared for the VOR-A approach, report BATLE inbound..
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5209 times:

Landed 12:38 CT

So it sat for an hour before police arrived?


User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5177 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 23):
So it sat for an hour before police arrived?

No.. just before CNN starting carrying the feed from KHOU..



Maintain 2300 until Boiler, cleared for the VOR-A approach, report BATLE inbound..
User currently offlineUtapao From Thailand, joined Jul 2005, 645 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5148 times:

As to whether it was DAL-CRP or over HOU, here is normal routing...

V*WN21«
05AUG DPTR ARVL MEALS EQP ELPD ACCUM MILES SM
MAF DAL C 955A 1100A 733 1.05 1.05 314 N
DAL HOU C 1130A 1230P 1.00 2.35 233 N
HOU CRP C 1255P 140P .45 3.45 195 N



Sawasdee khrab!
25 RJpieces : No.. just before CNN starting carrying the feed from KHOU.. CNN had live feed starting around 2:30 eastern. That is when pax started to leave the airc
26 FlyingTexan : Anyone know details about that Hertz rent-a-car shuttle bus? I’d reckon Hobby does not have shuttle buses of their own in the event air stairs are u
27 Johnboy : Ok, so this is the second or third threat against WN as of late? Can aanyone tell me what's going on here?
28 Post contains images DeltaFFinDFW : It's a conspiracy! Blame DFW Airport and AA!!
29 ChiGB1973 : Should have been less than 90 seconds! M
30 Post contains images OPNLguy : Yes...
31 Avek00 : Supposedly, the threatening note said: "QUIT OPPOSING THE WRIGHT AMENDMENT OR ELSE YOU'RE GOING DOWN!"
32 FLAIRPORT : True, at this point even the paint chipping off of the USAirways planes is newsworthy! I'm suprised that CNN doesn't talk about the NW DC9s just for
33 Post contains images Lincoln : You know, the really funny thing (and I realize given the situation it's not terribly funny) about this is... Looking at the pictures of the A340 in
34 TUNisia : WN has no FC, all the FAMs seems to sit in FC. But I don't see why they wouldn't not fly on WN flights.
35 Cjpark : The FAMS must have assigned seats that will allow them a tactical advantage in a hostile situation. Kind of hard to obtain the seat that will give the
36 OPNLguy : I won't go into details (for obvious reasons) but your statement is incorrect...
37 Gilligan : Did you write this? No? Then off with you! Did you write this? No? Then off with you! Did you write this? No? Then off with you!
38 Aggieflyboi04 : Then CNN is wrong They do fly WN
39 Silver1SWA : There was a threat at SAN on a WN flight this afternoon. I heard there was as many as 7 bomb threats throughout our system today, most of which don't
40 Johnboy : Yup, thaat's the impression I'm getting too, unfortunately.
41 F9fan : Identifying a FAM is way too easy. Look for the guy in the suit demanding pre-boarding. That is most likely your FAM. Federal regulations require them
42 Avek00 : The rules and procedures you have mentioned are wholly out of date (though it's not my place to say what the new rules are).
44 Ikramerica : Funny, I never heard that idea before...
45 Thelowfarehero : This is the second time now this week this has happened to WN...Must be a fAAn of AA, hAAs to be, especially with the Wright ammendment heating up.
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