Admluvs2fly From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 168 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3518 times:
Hello, I am a f/a for another airline. I am thinking about joining your airline. Please let me know what its really like in regards to pay, work rules and the atmosphere in which you work in. I would also like to know how management treats their employees. One other request. is where are the f/a bases and what are the more likely bases I would be at.
SteveSWA737 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 154 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3433 times:
The bases are DAL / HOU / PHX / OAK / MDW / BWI and MCO. Chances are you will be based in BWI or MDW right out of training. However you will be able to list your preferences of bases in training.
Pay scale is much better than when I started. The majority of us are very happy with the current contract. Assuming you start by Jan 06, you will start at $17.78 per flight hour. Actually we call it per trip, but if I tried to explain how they come up with that, we'd be here all night.
After your 6 month probation period your rate will increase to $18.35 and on your 1 year anniversary it will increase to $22.26
You will also receive a per diem of $2.15 for every hour you are away from you base. So if you check in on Friday at 6am and you finish your 3 day trip on Sunday at 4pm you would receive $2.15 x 58 hours away from base = $124.70 in per diem for that trip. We get paid the 5th and the 20th of every month and our per diem check is always part of the 20th check.
The atmosphere at SWA is pretty laid back. But I guess you already knew that by looking at our uniform. In training they stress that they want you to be yourself on the airplane.
The work rules are pretty fair. The best part of the job is the flexibility. They usually assign you a line with 3 days on and 4 days off however we have unlimited trading ability. For instance, you can trade any 3 day for any other 3 day that is uncovered in open time as many times as you want. Also in some situation, you can move days. As a commuter, this comes in handy a lot. I like to move my trips around so I can work 6 days on and then take 8 or 10 days off.
Management for the most part is pretty nice, but then again like with most companies, it depends who you ask. They have always been nice to me. I got this job in 1994 right out of college. It was supposed to be my "fun" job for a year and then I was gonna get a "real" job related to my major. Then after my year was up, I thought, "this feels like a real job and why should I leave a job that I love and have fun doing".
Im sure you would love it at SWA. You would probably love it at Airtran or JetBlue also. I have friends at both airlines and they also love it. I truly believe that it's all in your attitude and what you make of it.
Tsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3385 times:
since ive been working at ohare, ive wonderd, to the point of actually thinking about becoming a flight attendant. seems like a real fun job. but on the other hand, i havent flown in so long im scared to fly!! i taking my first flight in a month on either swa or united.
but to me it seem like flight attendants dont make a lot of money yearly. but im on the outside looking in lol.
WeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3211 times:
Quoting 777Purser (Reply 5): You mean to tell me they already recalled everyone furloughed and there is no one on overage leave? Or a lot of people resigned? What happened?
United will recall all furloughs by the end of the year. These are all volunteer furloughs and most are getting called back way early. As far as I know, most of them will not be returning. United is also experience a higher attrition rate then in the past, so therefore they will be needing more FA's to fill the spots vacated- and also for the increased international flying. The rumor I've heard is 2,000 or so in 2006.
Atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5717 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3037 times:
I am someone who would like to be a F/A for Southwest Airlines. However I am hearing impaired. I have talked to a lot of F/A about my situation and most said they do not see a reason why I cannot fly. I hear quite a bit with my hearing aids. I read lips extremely well, and i know SOME sign, I communicate really well, I enunciate etc etc. Most people do not believe me when I say i am hearing impaired haha. I can hear the radio and people speak on the phone but I am not 100% and I will not pick up enough out of the convo exchange. So I am afraid this is what would reject me. But while in flight, we must memorize the safety procedure anyway correct? so hearing it is not a problem, as I would have it memorize. communicating with the passnegers and F/A by face and speaking is NOT a problem either. My concern was the calling up front to the cockpit. in emergencys, i know what to do and all that as well. So do you see a reason NOT to apply when I am old enough or what?
Any Southwest F/A please let me know your thoughts, most of the ones iv talked to on my flights have been supported, and I will take criticism or any advice.
Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
777Purser From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 219 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3009 times:
OIC!! Thanks for the explanation.
At American, there are still 4,700 INVOLUNTARY furloughs, there is no atrition because senior FA's say they cannot afford to retire (so its fly until you die) and for some reason HAHAA ....!! no one resigns!! So...we are short, but they are building this really hi time trips where you work 8 to 10 days a month.
Since there is no cap in what we fly, as long as you have your legal rest you can fly up to an umbelievable 160-plus hours a month. FA's are flying hi time because they lost so much of thier pay. This is how management is avoiding recalling anyone...
They dont want to have to bring anyone back because they are too expensive. They pay seniority is higher because they are ex TWA FA's and they given pay according to lenght of service at TW. When the concessions happened they were furloughed. It sucks for them...not good for anyone...but the way I see it...management intends to hang in there until they can have new hires off the streets without having to recall an expensive workforce...that is about 3 years from now.
We'll see...the way the industry is going you never know right? Good luck to EVERYONE out there, BEST WISHES to all.
Fpofllflyboi From Bahamas, joined Jun 2005, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2996 times:
Quoting SteveSWA737 (Reply 1): The bases are DAL / HOU / PHX / OAK / MDW / BWI and MCO. Chances are you will be based in BWI or MDW right out of training. However you will be able to list your preferences of bases in training.
I am surprised that FLL is not a base yet. WHy is that? Any time I go out there at night there always seem to be alot of aircraft parked on the ramp after 11 pm and all the gates are filled with aircraft.
Luvfa From United States of America, joined May 2005, 457 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2895 times:
FLL does have a lot of overnights for us, as does LAS, TPA, LAX, MCI and SAN. The truth is with only 6 gates there our growth is limited. We have an entire terminal in LAS and 12 gates in TPA and they aren't bases!