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Heard WN's & AA's Wright Songs On Radio Yet?  
User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3813 posts, RR: 34
Posted (9 years 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Note: These new radio ads can only be heard on (fictional) Radio Station KLSM  Smilebroadcasting live from Austin, TX.

Here's Southwest's (to the tune of "You're Still The One" by Orrlens. (Not the Shania Twain Song.)

Click here wait for music to load, then sing along. They're much better with music.

(Instrumental Intro)

We've been in Dallas
Since way back when
.Lots of you - have flown us
Again and again.
Now we want you to know,
After all these years.
We're still restricted
And it fills our eyes with tears.

But you're still the one
(Bringin' low fares to you)
'Cause we're Southwest --
And that's just what we do
We're still having fun,
And you're still the one.

We stand -- at the dawn
Of a brand new day.
It's high t-i-m-e --
The Wright Amendment went away.
We want lower fares,
We demand its repeal,
How -- many years now?
Come on, Congress! Let's get real!

So, listen up
We'll raise our voices
All North Texans
Demand more choices
Let's work -- (you and me)
We can Set Love Free

We're passengers
And we are strong,
We now believe
That Wright is wrong.
Let's work -- (you and me)
And we'll Set Love Free

(Ohhhh Baby)  Smile

=================================
(Somewhat long Instrumental Break)(WN could do a voice-over announcment here)
=================================

Free - us -down - in the Metroplex
Wright is just a hex
We don't n-e-e-e-d

(Oooooh Ooooh!)

It's Competion
That makes us shout,
It's lower fares
That we dream about
Congress, cant' you see?
You should Set Love Free.

Wright is simply
AA's crutch.
So strike it down
.(And THANKS so much)
Don't fall for the lies
Open up your eyes

(Wake Up!)

Wright must go
It's time has passed
UnleAAsh us now
(We waana -- kick some a$$)
Congress, can't you see?
You should Set Love Free.

(Now are you listenin' Baby'?)

Fuel is high
(And times are tough)
But Wright is Wrong
(And we've had enough)
Congress - you're the key
Won't you Set Love F-r-e-e-e?

The - Wright - A - Mend - ment - is - Just - Plane  Smile - Wrong

And then there's AA's offering. In a somewhat bully fashion, it 's not so much a commercial seeking support as it is a veiled "or else" threat..

(To the tune of Tammy Wynette's "You're Good Girl's Gonna Go Bad."

Click here wait for audio to load, then sing along.

(Instrumental Intro)

We haven't seen much profit for a long while.
So, at D-F-Dubya we charge higher fares.
Now Southwest Airlines wants to end the Wright Amendment.
So we're all riled up and goin' on a tear.

So now your -- good AAirline's gonna go bAAd.
We're gonna throw the biggest screamin' hissy fit
We've ever had.
If ya like bein'
Price-gouged --
Jerked around --
Then you oughta be glad
'Cause your -- good AAirline's gonna go bAAd.

We're tellin' small towns they may lose their service.
And we're splittin' operations with Love Field   (Yeeeee-Haw!)
We must never get rid of the Wright Amendment.
'Cause extortion fares are vital to our yields.

So now your -- good AAirline's gonna go bAAd.
Gary Kelly pissed us off and
Now we're really mAAd!
If you like--
Service cuts --
Smaller planes --
Then you oughta be glad
'Cause your -- good AAirline's gonna go bAAd.

Right now we're payin' off them politicians. (Wink, wink)
And we've got big muscles we just love to flex.
We need to spread our message all across the nation
. To keep higher fares throughout the Metroplex.

So now your -- good AAirline's gonna go bAAd
. If American doesn't get its way
You'll wish we had.
If you like --
Busted lips --
Broken limbs --
Then you oughta be glad
"Cause your -- good AAirline's gonna go bAAd.

If you want --
Fewer flights --
Higher Fares --
Then you oughta be glad
'Cause your -- good AAirline's gonna go bAAd.

Catchy,huh?

Uh oh! Uh oh! Look Out! Here comes that hussy, Fort Worth. Lordy, she looks PISSED! (Check out her big 'ole hair, though.) Are beehives still in fashion?  Smile

What's that she's singing to AA and Dallas? It seems to be to the tune of that old Loretta Lynn song,

"You Ain't Woman Enough to Take my Man."

Y'all know the click here and wait routine by now.

(This part sung to AA)

You think you're gonna leave us.
Well we don't think that's so-
'Cause we've spent lots of cash on you
And we're not gonna let you go.

You say you'll go to Love Field
Oh, but we don't think you can.
'Cause there ain't no Love big enough
To take our mAAn.

Airlines like you - they're a dime a dozen
But -- we can play hardball, too.
You think you're gonna move
Half your fleet to Love Field??!!
Well baby, we've got news for you.

It'll be over our dead bodies,
Hire those lawyers while you can.
There ain't no Love strong enough
To take our mAAn.

(to Dallas now - with hands on hips)

Sometimes AA shoots off their mouth
They love to raise a fuss.
But right now, since Love Field's too small,
They're still in love with us.

Well, we don't know where that leaves you,
But we do know where we stand.
Fort Worth won't allow your Love
To steal our mAAn.

(Back to singin' to AA)

AA get your act together!
Stop spreadin' such doubt and fear.
We're sick & tired of puttin' up
With all of your crap
And let's make one thing perfectly clear.

You'll be leavin' over our dead bodies,
So you'd best have another plan.
We'll say it again -- (Love Field)
Can't handle our mAAn.

No, Dallas Love Field won't steal
Fort Worth's m - A - A - n.

Of course, in the end, after a knock-down, drag-out, purse-slinging, wig snatching, eye-gouging, fight, both Dallas and Fort Worth will probably be singing D-I-V-O-R-C-E, as a ten-foot tall barbed wire fence is erected along the Dallas/Tarrant County line.  Smile

The above message was brought to you as a public service announcement by LoneStarMike.

We now return you to your regulary scheduled discussion forum already in progress.




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User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

LoneStar,

Did you make those up? They are awesome!

You should forward them to Southwest, I'm sure they'd love to hear them.

GreatChecko



"A pilot's plane she is. She will love you if you deserve it, and try to kill you if you don't...She is the Mighty Q400"
User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4276 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3012 times:

Great job, LSM! Absolutley wonderful!  bigthumbsup 

Texan



"I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."
User currently offlineJdaniel001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2993 times:

Too funny.....any ideas where i can see the tv ads. Everytime I go home I seem to miss them.

User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

Bravo! Bravo! *oh wait, Par Excellence, I luv it!

Wow – many are putting tons of effort into this repeal Wright Campaign!


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

www.keepdfwstrong.com sent out an update today with the subject line asking if Southwest's petition signatures were valid, yet the article they linked was about Southwest's method of collecting signatures, venues, etc. and -not- the validity of those who had signed.

Maybe you could write some lyrics for the DFW Airport folks, sung to the tune of Three Dog Night's "Liar" from the 1970s...  Wink


User currently offlineCjpark From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1248 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/colu...nists/bob_ray_sanders/12325449.htm

You mean the comments by the WN customer who refused to sign the petition and then felt like he was being harassed by the WN employees. Almost to the point where he was afraid he would be denied boarding?

Yes, been there done that. Most or the gate personnel at Hobby know that I will not sign so they don't even bother asking anymore.

This was a unique way of stating the obvious about the fight over the Wright Amendment. Letter to the editor from today's Dallas Morning News.

D/FW is Wright

While I listen and read about the controversy surrounding the repeal of the Wright amendment, I can only be sure of one thing – the people supporting the appeal do not fully understand the history of Love Field, Southwest and D/FW.

Maybe this analogy will help: UT plays OU and wins. Subsequent to the win, OU successfully lobbies the NCAA for rule changes. The NCAA complies and OU is declared the winner of the already played game.

UT plays OU again and wins. Again OU successfully lobbies for another rule change and is declared the winner again.

Now the two teams are set for a third game and OU has made it clear that, if it loses, they repeat the entire scenario rather than meeting UT on equal ground under the agreed-upon rules.

This is the Wright amendment. D/FW is UT and Southwest is OU. Southwest continues to lobby the U.S. government to change the rules rather than compete on neutral ground with other carriers at D/FW. Of what is it so afraid?



"Any airline that wants to serve the [region] can go to DFW today and fly anywhere they want," WN spokesman Ed Stewart
User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2802 times:

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 6):
Most or the gate personnel at Hobby know that I will not sign so they don't even bother asking anymore.

Okay, so when I just read this I did a double-take.. Are you implying that you fly WN between HOU and DAL ???? So much in fact that the CSA's in HOU know you by sight ???  Wow!   

LSM- what awesome songs! I sent the link to my coworkers!

[Edited 2005-08-09 06:21:18]


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User currently offlineVegasplanes From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 778 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

LoneStarMike, great tunes, are you releasing an album any time soon?

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 6):
Most or the gate personnel at Hobby know that I will not sign so they don't even bother asking anymore.

Holy S!!T, all the bashing of DAL and WN you do and you fly through the damn airport on WN all the time!!!!!

What's up with this, I don't understand?


User currently offlineCjpark From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1248 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2722 times:

Yes I have customers down in Houston that request service for their equipment. Yea, I am the guy who always misses his flight because of work or traffic issues. I drive back to Hobby from Southwest Houston. The Beltway is like the Indy 500 late in the afternoon and Hwy 59/I45 under permanent construction. I always carry a tool box and parts so I have to check in downstairs. Either I flat out miss the flight or get to Hobby too late to get my bag on the plane so I wait. Most of the times they offer stand by on the flight right after my scheduled departure. Usually I request the flight after next to be sure I get a seat and a decent boarding go to the gate area and wait have a scotch and decompress after a fun day of dealing with airports, airlines and angry customers.

Why do I fly WN to HOU because the schedules. Unfortunately AA does not leave early enough or comeback late enough. I average two rapid rewards tickets per year just on DAL to HOU.



"Any airline that wants to serve the [region] can go to DFW today and fly anywhere they want," WN spokesman Ed Stewart
User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

I personally think that flying O&D Dallas-Houston is not even worth flying if DFW-IAH is used. Both airports are simply hell to get to if there is traffic.

If WN was forced to move to DFW, they could no longer compete with the car in the short texas segments.



"If the facts do not conform to the theory, they will have to be disposed of"
User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3813 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

OPNLGuy:

Maybe you could write some lyrics for the DFW Airport folks, sung to the tune of Three Dog Night's "Liar" from the 1970s...

Actually, I was thinking of another song I'd like to make up lyrics for. You know how when Gary Kelly first came out against the Wright Amendment back in November? DFW went balistic, said they scared off potential carriers that might have been interested in taking over some of the Delta gates and pretty much trashed them in the press.

Then, more recently they decided that maybe some charm and love would entice WN to DFW,so they ran ads in the paper and buzzed your headquarters in an effort to get Southwest to change their minds.

I think WN should have responded by singing "It's too Late" by Carole King. only with different lyrics. Something along the lines of:

Well it's too late Baby, now it's too late
'Cause how many times have you sued us?
Our LUV for you died and then you lied
And you also tried to screw us

Oh Ooohhh  Smile

The real irony in using that particular song is this: I went back and checked to see what the number one song in the U.S. was when Southwest first took to the skies on June 18, 1971. It was ... you guessed it ... It's Too Late by Carole King.

For those who asked, yes I wrote the lyrics myself. (Sorry the link to the midi of the Tammy Wynette went dead. I tried to download it to my website but had technical difficulties, so I linked to the only version I culd find on the net.)

As far as sending it to Southwest, I wouldn't know who to send it to and besides they're not set up to take e-mail, anyway. While they might have gotten a chuckle out of it, it wouldn't have been anything they actually could have used due to some barnyard language and swipes at AA because that's really not their style.

But keeping that in mind, I went in and cleaned up the lyrics, took out all references to AA, tried to make it more about Love field and competion rather than Southwest, and came up with some additonal new lyrics I wrote to try and go with the instrumental break in the middle of the song.

So I now offer you-

"The Wright Amendment Song"Version 2.0

Click Here First

(Instrumental Intro)

Love's been in Dallas
Since way back when
Lots of folks - have flown there
Again and again
Now we want you to know
After all these years
Love's still restricted
And it fills our eyes with tears.

Love's still the one
(Bringin' low fares to you)
They're Southwest --
That's what they do
They're still having fun,
And Love's still the one.

We stand -- at the dawn
Of a brand new day
It's high t-i-m-e --
The Wright Amendment went away.
We want lower fares,
We demand its repeal,
Help - bring North Texans
Com-pe-ti-tion that is real.

So, listen up
We'll raise our voices
The Metroplex
Demands more choices
Let's work -- (you and me)
We can Set Love Free

We're passengers
And we are strong,
We now believe
That Wright is Wrong.
Let's work -- (you and me)
And we'll Set Love Free

(Ohhhh Baby)  Smile

=================================

Please - Congress won't you help us
Bring competition to North Texas - Now
(Pretty --- Please)
(We're on our knees)
(Don't make us gro-vel, Con-gress)

Listen to us,
Listen to us.
Won't you help us, Congress?
Dallas & Fort Worth want
Low fares now
It's -- a-l-l -- up to you
Because y-o-u-'r-e -- the only ones who
Can e-lim-i-nate it

You know what to do --
So we can bring more low fares to you

(Oh Babe)

Con-gress help us,
(Listen to us baby)
Let's work together
Bringin' more competition

==========================================

Free - us - down - in the Metroplex
Wright is just a hex
We don't n-e-e-e-d

(Oooooh Ooooh!)

It's Competition
That makes us shout,
It's lower fares
That we dream about
Let's work, you and me
Help us Set Love Free.

Wright should go
It's time has passed
Repeal it now
Free Love at last!
Congress, can't you see?
You should Set Love Free.

(Wake Up!)

D F W
Needs no crutch.
Abolish Wright
(Thank you very much)
Help North Texas Fly
And tell Wright goodbye.

(Now are you listenin' Congress?)

Fuel is high
(And times are tough)
But Wright is Wrong
(And we've had enough)
Congress - you're the key
Won't you Set Love F-r-e-e-e?

The - Wright - A - Mend - Ment - is - Just - Plane - Wrong

I like Version 2.0 because it also mentions Fort Worth, The Metroplex, North Texas and not so much just Dallas.

BTW, it's a good thing I like this tune because you guys have absolutely NO IDEA how many times I had to listen to it to get the words "just right."

LoneStarMike

User currently offlineORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2629 times:

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 6):
Southwest continues to lobby the U.S. government to change the rules rather than compete on neutral ground with other carriers at D/FW. Of what is it so afraid?

It seems to me the "rules" are that the country's air system was deregulated and that any airline should be allowed to fly anywhere it wants. But Jim Wright "changed" the rules by introducing the Wright Amendment and blocking deregulation from happening at Love Field. AA continues to lobby against deregulation at Love Field rather than compete in a deregulated environment like other multiple-airport cities have done. Of what is it so afraid?

Imagine how crazy it would be if jetBlue was told it couldn't fly to Long Beach but had to "compete on neutral ground" with other carriers at LAX.

[Edited 2005-08-09 21:08:16]

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2615 times:

Quoting ORD (Reply 12):
It seems to me the "rules" are that the country's air system was deregulated and that any airline should be allowed to fly anywhere it wants.

That would be very correct.
Complaining of Southwest wanting to change the "Rules", ignores the fact that Southwest operates under a completely different set than anyone else. (except those carriers serving DAL, LGA and DCA)

But if my memory serves correctly, AA petitioned and won, getting the rules amended in their favor so they could begin service from DFW-LGA; which previously was not allowed.
Why is it OK for AA to do something and not WN?
Where in lies the difference?
Why does Love Field have federal restrictions concerning it's use when no other airport has such liabilities?



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User currently offlineCjpark From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1248 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

Quoting ORD (Reply 12):
It seems to me the "rules" are that the country's air system was deregulated and that any airline should be allowed to fly anywhere it wants. But Jim Wright "changed" the rules by introducing the Wright Amendment and blocking deregulation from happening at Love Field. AA continues to lobby against deregulation at Love Field rather than compete in a deregulated environment like other multiple-airport cities have done. Of what is it so afraid?

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...:@@@D%7CTOM:/bss/d095query.html%7C


Airline Deregulation Act - Amends the Federal Aviation Act of 1958 to direct the Civil Aeronautics Board in the performance of its duties with respect to interstate and overseas air transportation to consider the following as being in accordance with the public convenience and necessity: (1) the maintenance of safety as the highest priority in air commerce; (2) placing maximum reliance on competition in providing air transportation services; (3) the encouragement of air service at major urban areas through secondary or satellite airports; (4) the avoidance of unreasonable industry concentration which would tend to allow one or more air carriers to unreasonably increase prices, reduce services, or exclude competition; and (5) the encouragement of entry into air transportation markets by new air carriers, the encouragement of entry into additional markets by existing air carriers, and the continued strengthening of small air carriers.

Stipulates that the Federal Government shall have preemptive rights with regard to interstate air transportation.


Lets see by reading this the Federal Govt shall have preemptive rights with regard to insterstate air transportation. And that the avoidance of unreasonable industry concentration would tend to allow one or more carriers to unreasonably increase prices, reduce services or exclude competition says to me that the Govt has final say on everything concerning the airlines and or airports.

Jim Wright did not change the rules. He enabled them to be enforced.

Does this mean the government can force WN to stay at SeaTac and move to DFW, yes.



"Any airline that wants to serve the [region] can go to DFW today and fly anywhere they want," WN spokesman Ed Stewart
User currently offlineVegasplanes From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 778 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 14):
Amends the Federal Aviation Act of 1958 to direct the Civil Aeronautics Board in the performance of its duties with respect to interstate and overseas air transportation to consider the following as being in accordance with the public convenience and necessity:



Quoting Cjpark (Reply 14):

Lets see by reading this the Federal Govt shall have preemptive rights with regard to insterstate air transportation.

Read closer, the Civil Aeronautic Board (CAB) has the right to regulate the routes/airports an airline may fly to, the CAB was a bureau of the federal government that is no longer in existence. The decision is now up to either the FAA or DOT.


User currently offlineLUVNapa From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2565 times:

Quoting LoneStarMike (Reply 11):
I like Version 2.0 because it also mentions Fort Worth, The Metroplex, North Texas and not so much just Dallas.

Mike,

I think you underestimate the positive response this would get from the folks at Southwest. Really nice job on this! I know that if you were interested in forwarding this to them, there are several people on this board that could steer you in the right direction.


User currently offlineORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

Quoting Cjpark (Reply 14):
Stipulates that the Federal Government shall have preemptive rights with regard to interstate air transportation.

As mentioned above, the CAB no longer exists. Deregulation specified this:

"Congress mandated that domestic route and rate restrictions be phased out over four years. It provided for complete elimination of restrictions on routes and new services by December 31, 1981, and the end of all rate regulation by January 1, 1983."

http://www.airlines.org/about/d.aspx?nid=7947

Note the phrase "complete elimination of restrictions on routes and new services."


User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3813 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2529 times:

Thanks, LUVNapa. Now that I think about it, I seem to recall Gary Kelly having written an opinion piece several months ago, and it gave an e-mail addy at the end of the article. I'll have to go back and find it.

At any rate here's one more -- a short one to Judy Garland's "The Trolley Song"

Click & Wait

Southwest stayed out at Love Field
D-F-W flipped
Thanks to the Wright Amendment
Southwest's wings at Love Field have been clipped.

Southwest fought hard to stay there.
And the courts, they agreed. (But)
Congress passed the Wright Amendment.
Now it's time for Love Field to be freed.

So many p-l-a-c-e-s
We can't go
Like Phoenix, Boise,
West Palm Beach and Buffalo
Kansas C-i-i-t-y, Tampa B-a-a-y
Philadelphia, Detroit and San Jose

HA! HA! went the other airlines.
Up, Up, Up, went their fares.
All North Texas flyers suffered
So we're asking Congress please
(We'll get down on hands and knees)
Just take a s-t-a-a-n-d
Won't you give us a h-a-a-n-d?
Com-pe-ti-tion is grand in this land
And we don't quite understand
Why Wright f-l-i-e-s
Help us unlock our skies.

LoneStarMike

User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

Lonestar- I am going to have to find out if Colleen has listened to this yet..
That is a riot!



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User currently offlineCjpark From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1248 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2472 times:

Quoting ORD (Reply 17):
As mentioned above, the CAB no longer exists. Deregulation specified this:

"Congress mandated that domestic route and rate restrictions be phased out over four years. It provided for complete elimination of restrictions on routes and new services by December 31, 1981, and the end of all rate regulation by January 1, 1983."

http://www.airlines.org/about/d.aspx?nid=7947

Note the phrase "complete elimination of restrictions on routes and new services."

You are correct but understand this the FAA superseded the old CAB when the Airline deregulation Act was enacted.

Do you honestly think the government would relinquish all rights to control and regulate interstate airtravel in this country?

Just remember the act guarantees the stipulation that the Federal Government shall have preemptive rights with regard to interstate air transportation.



"Any airline that wants to serve the [region] can go to DFW today and fly anywhere they want," WN spokesman Ed Stewart
User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2456 times:
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Quoting Cjpark (Reply 20):
You are correct but understand this the FAA superseded the old CAB when the Airline deregulation Act was enacted.

Do you honestly think the government would relinquish all rights to control and regulate interstate air travel in this country?

No we don’t, but neither do we inaccurately think that the FAA is the on restricting Love. It was congress that passed the restriction, congress that imposed and enforced the new rules, not the FAA. If the FAA had been the organization that was restricting Love, then you would have a point.

Although I know congress has the right to do whatever they want, they are the government; I do think that they overstepped their bounds on this one. Deregulation was meant to be nation-wide, but instead they circumvented the spirit of deregulation for the benefit of a municipal project. When later the issue was brought up again there was enough political greeyaz thrown so that the amendment, which was obviously unnecessary now that DFW, and in turn the Dallas / Fort Worth investment in the airport, was not in financial jeopardy, wasn’t repealed entirely but rather changed to the better benefit of those who wish to fly from Love. And now that it is even more obvious that DFW is fine and in a well-secured niche in the Air Industry and WN finally has the political clout to possibly get the WA gone for good, AA cries foul and threatens everyone. Hence the backpedaling of some of our 'infallible' reps and senators.

This has nothing to do with anything but dirty government getting caught with its pants down on the floor of the house and senate this time. If this 'grandfathered' amendment had not been passed in the first place, we wouldn’t have to, to the great embarrassment of all involved, work to get it removed. Why congress should have been involved in the first place in the effort to consolidate the Dallas / Fort Worth airports I have no clue, but it is right there now, suckling from the nipples of AA and WN and DFW and showing us how 'political' it can be. And it makes me sick.

And lets not be condescending to Cjpark for using WN because they are the best in the region, he can't help it if AA doesn't give him what he wants, like a good schedule, when he travels. And he has repeatedly told us he isn't pro-DFW or AA as much as he is anti-DAL for noise and volume reasons in his local community. In essence a self-proclaimed NIMBY.

On a relevant note to the thread, those songs are hilarious LoneStarMike. Very nice job!



For some, the sky is the limit. For us, it is only the beginning... -- Jack Hunt
User currently offlineCjpark From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1248 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 21):
And lets not be condescending to Cjpark for using WN because they are the best in the region, he can't help it if AA doesn't give him what he wants, like a good schedule, when he travels. And he has repeatedly told us he isn't pro-DFW or AA as much as he is anti-DAL for noise and volume reasons in his local community. In essence a self-proclaimed NIMBY.

A better way to say it is that WN has the best schedule. As far as being the best in the region well, I guess that would be your opinion.

To be honest if WN had not worked so hard to stop the Texas High Speed Rail proposal we could all ride the train to Houston. Nothing like a little competition right?



"Any airline that wants to serve the [region] can go to DFW today and fly anywhere they want," WN spokesman Ed Stewart
User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2420 times:
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Quoting Cjpark (Reply 22):
Nothing like a little competition right?

You should ask AA what they think of competition. They seems to have written the book on how to deal with it.

And I do stand corrected. Being the best in the region is an opinion. Having the best schedule for you is the solid fact. I will take that.



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User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3813 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

Well, I hope y'all can stand one more. Mikey's been on a tear today.  Smile

"Expensive Skies"
To the tune of "Lyin' Eyes" by the Eagles

Click here for music

(Instrumental Intro)

Deregulation's been here thirty years now
At every major airport but Love Field.
It's time to end the Wright Amendment, Congress.
It's time for competition that is real.

Way back then when DFW opened
Well, they needed help to make them big and strong.
But the Wright Amendment gave them twenty-six years
And quite frankly, we just think that's way too long.

They're the third biggest airport in the nation
In the Metroplex, we sure do pay the price
Get rid of Wright - we'll have a celebration
Lower fares and more choices would be nice

We can't fly expensive skies
High airfares we do despise
So Congress please, please hear our cries
Abolish Wright and open up our skies

So, open up Love Field to long haul service
And help to strenthen our economy
Low fares, and lots of choices mean more travelers.
Won't you help us in our quest to Set Love Free?

Congress, let's unite - let's work together
To get rid of this unfair travesty.
You can't expect this law to last forever.
Please, Congress won't you help set Love Field free?

We can't fly expensive skies
It's higher fares that we despise
So Congress please, please hear our cries
Abolish Wright and open up our skies
Bring competition to North Texas skies
Help Southwest bring low fares to Love Field's skies

(Get rid of Wright and open up our skies. )

(Wright is just Plane W-r-o-n-g)

LoneStarMike

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