Jetblue15 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 273 posts, RR: 1 Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3023 times:
Industry standard to my knowledge of the MBR is 2.5 Now our MBR is through the freakin roof at JFK hovering around 10. Talking to others in the industry other airlines have problems as well with getting there bags out. I feel the standard should at least be doubled to 5. I'd like to hear some of your opinions on the subject.
AbirdA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 253 posts, RR: 6 Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3014 times:
Maybe I'm alone here, but I have no clue what MBR is. Could you explain?
Jetblue15 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 273 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2995 times:
The airline is given a standard of how many bags can be missed per 1000 bags(I believe). So for every 1000 and I could be wrong about the 1000, the industry wants the airlines to only miss 2 or less bags.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15813 posts, RR: 50 Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2993 times:
AbirdA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 253 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2984 times:
Well then I don't understand. It would be nice if no bags were lost. Why should the standard be doubled just because the workforce isn't meeting it? Goals are set for a reason. I would think that people at JFK should move toward the standard rather than it moving toward them.
Jetblue15 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 273 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2960 times:
Now that you have more people flying it becomes unrealalistic. You gotta change with the times and JFK for most my airline are not the only ones having problems. MBR is used mainly in ground operations when your dealing with baggage so I'm not going to be surprised if most people never heard of it.
AbirdA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 253 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2932 times:
Quoting Jetblue15 (Reply 5): You gotta change with the times and JFK for most my airline are not the only ones having problems.
With all due respect, I don't think that makes much sense. Since the ratio is set against a fixed number of bags, it is automatically adjusted for increased traffic. The standard allows for 2.5 bag losses for every 1,000 bags that pass through the system. That means that as more people come through, there are more sets of 1,000 bags to lose 2.5 bags from. The ratio becomes no more unrealistic over time.
If, on the other hand, the ratio was a certain number of bags per year or something like that, then it would have to be revised with increases or decreases in traffic, all other things equal.
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6373 posts, RR: 34 Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2897 times:
Quoting Jetblue15 (Thread starter): I feel the standard should at least be doubled to 5. I'd like to hear some of your opinions on the subject.
The standard should be what the leaders in the industry are achieving or a bit better. JetBlue's nearly 5,000 mishandled bags in June probably cost the airline six figures in baggage delivery charges and compensation paid to passengers -- not to mention poor impressions made on a few thousand customers.
The real answer is to figure out what's causing bags to miss planes and hire or streamline procedures in order to make sure that bags make it to their destinations on the same aircraft as their owners.
AbirdA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 253 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2884 times:
Quoting ScottB (Reply 7): The standard should be what the leaders in the industry are achieving or a bit better.
Why should the standard be set based on what's being done now? It creates nothing to work toward and rewards comlacency. There is no reason to modify the standard just because the workforce isn't doing enough to achieve it.
Mrmoose From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 39 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2871 times:
Jetblue15 other then late connections what are the main causes of MBR?
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21041 posts, RR: 60 Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2783 times:
but this is the way of the american system right now. new group unable to match the standard of those that came before? lower the standard! baggage handling, math, reading, writing, who cares? keep lowering the standard until everyone is a winner without having to work hard or try at all...
as a pax, I would say no, do NOT lower a standard that helps ensure my bag goes with me. if your airline has a problem with it, then fix it. is JFK a bad place to do business? well, maybe, why do you think so many other airlines avoided it, didn't set up a base of operations there, etc...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2767 times:
Anyone know US' @ PHL?? (Christmas fiasco not withstanding) Has got to be pretty high when a flight coming into mainline is late, and the pax is going onto express... or vice versa. Just going by personal experiences here.
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