Sm777 From India, joined Nov 2003, 132 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2160 times:
A newsitem in todays ET (Economic Times) mentions that Jet will be using one of its new A340-313s on the BOM DEL trunk route till such time as permission is granted for flights to the US
This is good news for travelers on the sector, since all they have been used to since IA's A300s went off the sector, is cramped 737s and A320s. It may be shortlived, though, since once the permissions come thru it will be back to the 737s, but till then it will be quite an experience to fly the 343 on Bombay delhi.
However, parking the 343 at the domestic aprons in BOM and DEL will be a challenge so I guess it will be parked either at the International terminals or in some other area nearby ?
Hawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2114 times:
When is permission from the US side expected. As I the procedure is being held up due to some silly nagging by a US company of the same name.
Cloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 626 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2069 times:
The U.S. Department of Transportation has of yet to approve Jet's application given the allegations made by Jet Airways USA-- allegations, for the most part, to be unfounded.
Plus there is the issue of trademark. Who owns the name Jet Airways.
Until these issues are resolved, Jet Airways won't be flying to the US anytime soon.
Personally, I think Jet Airways USA is looking for a quick settlement.
Anyway, they have leased A340s that are essentially sitting around, perhaps, in the meantime Jet Airways India could look for routes elsewhere like, say, YYZ.
Hawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1926 times:
Thanks Cloud.
Do you know long these issues will probably take to get resolved. It's a shame that 9W can't fly into NYC area. They would surely add more competition and choices for the people travelling to India.
Mrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1904 times:
Quoting Sm777 (Thread starter): This is good news for travelers on the sector, since all they have been used to since IA's A300s went off the sector, is cramped 737s and A320s.
Last time I went on BOM-DEL I was on a 744 from AI
Hawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1833 times:
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 5): it would be better for them to use it on their far east asia flights to sin and kul rather than on the domestic runs.
That's a great idea. My mum friends here in Singaland complain that the 'chota' (small) planes of Jet and Sahara move around a lot during flight. Perhaps a bigger plane will satisfy them although temporarily. Anyways they dont care as long as the price is right.
I guess that this could be difficult since 9W doesn't know when they'll get the necessary approvals to start flights. I'm sure they have everything in place to start. Considering that air tickets are sold months in advance, they wouldn't know how many seats to sell for the flight.
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 30162 posts, RR: 61 Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1651 times:
Quoting Sm777 (Thread starter): However, parking the 343 at the domestic aprons in BOM and DEL will be a challenge so I guess it will be parked either at the International terminals or in some other area nearby
They'll park at The International & move between terminals to board.Only problem would be the Time factor.
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 5): it would be better for them to use it on their far east asia flights to sin and kul rather than on the domestic runs.
Maybe the Load factor is a point to consider. The loads between Bom & Del would be better.
Quoting Hawaijahaz (Reply 6): My mum friends here in Singaland complain that the 'chota' (small) planes of Jet and Sahara move around a lot during flight.
BA777-236 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 657 posts, RR: 6 Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1620 times:
Quoting Mrniji (Reply 9): The best would be if 9W buys a lot of a/c and leases them all out to AI.. like this, the blockage could be bypassed!
An excellent suggestion!
Maybe a bit pricey for AI, but at least they would have new planes coming into their fleet.
I wonder if Jet will fly to Canada then? AI has had excellent results on the Amritsar-Toronto route, but only flies 3 times a week. I'm sure there is an opportunity for more India-Canada flights...
{Well, AC flies to India too, but still}
I like British Airways! I'm not sure why, but I do! ;-)
Mrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1599 times:
Quoting BA777-236 (Reply 10): I wonder if Jet will fly to Canada then? AI has had excellent results on the Amritsar-Toronto route, but only flies 3 times a week. I'm sure there is an opportunity for more India-Canada flights...
If market developments continue like this, 9W will easily kick AI and "replace" their routes gradually (i.e. if AI does not have their a/c soon, and an effective management)
Cloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 626 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1452 times:
Quoting Hawaijahaz (Reply 3): Do you know long these issues will probably take to get resolved. It's a shame that 9W can't fly into NYC area. They would surely add more competition and choices for the people travelling to India.
Don't know, the DOT has yet to move on their application. Hopefully it will be soon.
Himmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1343 times:
Quoting Sm777 (Thread starter): However, parking the 343 at the domestic aprons in BOM and DEL will be a challenge so I guess it will be parked either at the International terminals or in some other area nearby ?
Wide bodies including B747s used to park at the now domestic apron in Delhi. IC still parks its A300s at both BOM and DEL domestic aprons. I guess parking a A343 should not be a problem at BOM and DEL.
regs.,
Himmat
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