CO is competing for this DOT application with DL, which wants to start JFL-EZE flights.
10,000 of CO's employees, 1/4 of the total, have supported CO's DOT application. If successful, EZE would become CO's 57th destination served from IAH in Latin American and the Caribbean.
MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4727 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1891 times:
CO makes a slightly better case, opening a new hub and route to Argentina, while DA's me-too proposal from JFK would make them the third airline on that route. DOT, however, might be in a punitive mood since CO never implemented their last award of an EZE route.
RamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1867 times:
And DL lost the PVG route too right? or was that PEK? Would that have any influence?
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21245 posts, RR: 19 Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1724 times:
Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):
10,000 of CO's employees, 1/4 of the total, have supported CO's DOT application. If successful, EZE would become CO's 57th destination served from IAH in Latin American and the Caribbean.
Every CO employee should support the application. The route shouldn't have trouble making money. Where are the other 75%?
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
MD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3091 posts, RR: 60 Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1697 times:
Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 6): Apparently AR will change its JFK and operate it with a stop-over in MIA (JFK-MIA-EZE). The flight is not daily. AA offers daily JFK-EZE flights.
Hola Hardi!
They already do this due to "lack of equipment" I guess. Not all of the JFK flights are non-stop.
Now, what I don't seem to get is why CO waited so much to ask for its "share of frequencies" to EZE.
Another thing, is still why is the UA Chicago service is not considered as dropped. It would really help other airlines (read, DL) to start service from JFK. I believe the loads on ORD-EZE-ORD don't help at all, am I right?
Cheers!
Gastón - The MD-11 Junkie
There is no such thing as Boeing vs Airbus as the queen of the skies has three engines, winglets and the sweetest nose!
Junction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 766 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1663 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7): Every CO employee should support the application. The route shouldn't have trouble making money. Where are the other 75%?
"10,000 employees support the route" refers to a letter writing campaign in which 1/4 of all CO employees actually sent one in. It's really a very high level of participation for a letter writing campaign.
MD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3091 posts, RR: 60 Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1677 times:
Quoting Arcano (Reply 9): So, EZE will have direct flights to JFK(2), MIA, DFW, IAH, IAD, ORD and ATL?
Is the market that big?
According to LAN, it is. And I believe there's still room for more, and when LAN Argentina starts service (if they ever get there with the legal actions the government is taking on them), there will be more carriers serving these routes.
ATL - DL
MIA - AR, AA
DFW - AA
IAH/EWR - CO
JFK - AR, AA
IAD - UA
ORD - UA (dropped seasonally)
Cheers!
Gastón - The MD-11 Junkie
[Edited 2005-08-11 20:07:47]
There is no such thing as Boeing vs Airbus as the queen of the skies has three engines, winglets and the sweetest nose!
heack yeah.All the planes are in a load factor of 80+.Tourism is flourishing like never before with the currency exchange.
I have a store near downtown, and heck if I get a lot of Americans.The Toronto flight is also doing quite well.
All of this helps also to the inter-Argentina routes, as almost all the tourists go to patagonia.
Skaggs From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 144 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1361 times:
Quoting AR1300 (Reply 12): heack yeah.All the planes are in a load factor of 80+.Tourism is flourishing like never before with the currency exchange.
I love BsAs.....I was there In June. I love the place (even before the strong dollar) and I hope to retire there. I have been there a few times and one time on the way down I sat next to Robert Duvall who has a ranch down there and loves it as much as I do.
Man, are the girls good looking in Argentina. You have to see it to believe it. And, DFW is 30 min away so BsAs is a short 9 hours or so from me.
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4933 posts, RR: 28 Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1347 times:
Quoting Skaggs (Reply 13): love BsAs.....I was there In June. I love the place (even before the strong dollar) and I hope to retire there.
let us know when you come down here!
Quoting Skaggs (Reply 13): Man, are the girls good looking in Argentina
Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 11): According to LAN, it is. And I believe there's still room for more
Quoting AR1300 (Reply 12): heack yeah.All the planes are in a load factor of 80+.Tourism is flourishing like never before with the currency exchange.
como andan che? todo bien?
I don't have the actual numbers, but as mentioned, Argentina is now experiencing an almost unprecedented (foreign) touristic boom. It has been constantly growing since the devaluation adn since things calmed down (although there are still many problems ). Never before have I experienced running into so many foregin tourists, aside Brazilians, who have always had BA as a destination. You meet many Americans, British, Italians, and TONS of Spanish. And that's just in BA, I imagine turistic landmarks such as Iguazu to be full as well. So yes, there is a market no doubt!
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). Never before have I experienced running into so many foregin tourists, aside Brazilians, who have always had BA as a destination. You meet many Americans, British, Italians, and TONS of Spanish. And that's just in BA, I imagine turistic landmarks such as Iguazu to be full as well. So yes, there is a market no doubt!
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