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10,000 CO Employees Support EZE Service  
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

Interesting report showing that CO has officially submitted its DOT application to start service to a new destination: EWR-IAH-EZE B762ER:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050810/daw014.html?.v=24

CO is competing for this DOT application with DL, which wants to start JFL-EZE flights.

10,000 of CO's employees, 1/4 of the total, have supported CO's DOT application. If successful, EZE would become CO's 57th destination served from IAH in Latin American and the Caribbean.

Anyone knows whether CO or DL will get it?

Rgs,

[Edited 2005-08-11 17:53:02]

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

This is very old news. Lot's of discussion on this already.

Delta needs a miracle to get it.



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

So the support of 10,000 employees is old news?? Interesting, I thought it happened yesterday...

Rgs,


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5438 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2686 times:

CO makes a slightly better case, opening a new hub and route to Argentina, while DA's me-too proposal from JFK would make them the third airline on that route. DOT, however, might be in a punitive mood since CO never implemented their last award of an EZE route.


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User currently offlineRamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2662 times:

And DL lost the PVG route too right? or was that PEK? Would that have any influence?


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2640 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 2):
So the support of 10,000 employees is old news?? Interesting, I thought it happened yesterday...

No, that's not old. Though that also wasn't the topic header until you edited it afterwards.



a.
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2605 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
Though that also wasn't the topic header until you edited it afterwards.

It was part of the text's body.

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 3):
proposal from JFK would make them the third airline on that route.

Apparently AR will change its JFK and operate it with a stop-over in MIA (JFK-MIA-EZE). The flight is not daily. AA offers daily JFK-EZE flights.

Rgs,


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23022 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Thread starter):

10,000 of CO's employees, 1/4 of the total, have supported CO's DOT application. If successful, EZE would become CO's 57th destination served from IAH in Latin American and the Caribbean.

Every CO employee should support the application. The route shouldn't have trouble making money. Where are the other 75%?



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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3148 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2492 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 6):
Apparently AR will change its JFK and operate it with a stop-over in MIA (JFK-MIA-EZE). The flight is not daily. AA offers daily JFK-EZE flights.

Hola Hardi!  Smile

They already do this due to "lack of equipment" I guess. Not all of the JFK flights are non-stop.

Now, what I don't seem to get is why CO waited so much to ask for its "share of frequencies" to EZE.
Another thing, is still why is the UA Chicago service is not considered as dropped. It would really help other airlines (read, DL) to start service from JFK. I believe the loads on ORD-EZE-ORD don't help at all, am I right?

Cheers! wave 
Gastón - The MD-11 Junkie



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User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2407 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

So, EZE will have direct flights to JFK(2), MIA, DFW, IAH, IAD, ORD and ATL?

Is the market that big?



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User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 768 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7):
Every CO employee should support the application. The route shouldn't have trouble making money. Where are the other 75%?

"10,000 employees support the route" refers to a letter writing campaign in which 1/4 of all CO employees actually sent one in. It's really a very high level of participation for a letter writing campaign.


User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3148 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2472 times:

Quoting Arcano (Reply 9):
So, EZE will have direct flights to JFK(2), MIA, DFW, IAH, IAD, ORD and ATL?

Is the market that big?

According to LAN, it is. And I believe there's still room for more, and when LAN Argentina starts service (if they ever get there with the legal actions the government is taking on them), there will be more carriers serving these routes.

ATL - DL
MIA - AR, AA
DFW - AA
IAH/EWR - CO
JFK - AR, AA
IAD - UA
ORD - UA (dropped seasonally)

Cheers! wave 
Gastón - The MD-11 Junkie

[Edited 2005-08-11 20:07:47]


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User currently offlineAR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

Quoting Arcano (Reply 9):
Is the market that big?

heack yeah.All the planes are in a load factor of 80+.Tourism is flourishing like never before with the currency exchange.
I have a store near downtown, and heck if I get a lot of Americans.The Toronto flight is also doing quite well.
All of this helps also to the inter-Argentina routes, as almost all the tourists go to patagonia.

Mike



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User currently offlineSkaggs From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 144 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

Quoting AR1300 (Reply 12):
heack yeah.All the planes are in a load factor of 80+.Tourism is flourishing like never before with the currency exchange.

I love BsAs.....I was there In June. I love the place (even before the strong dollar) and I hope to retire there. I have been there a few times and one time on the way down I sat next to Robert Duvall who has a ranch down there and loves it as much as I do.

Man, are the girls good looking in Argentina. You have to see it to believe it. And, DFW is 30 min away so BsAs is a short 9 hours or so from me.

Mike Skaggs



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

Quoting Skaggs (Reply 13):
love BsAs.....I was there In June. I love the place (even before the strong dollar) and I hope to retire there.

let us know when you come down here!

Quoting Skaggs (Reply 13):
Man, are the girls good looking in Argentina

 yummy 

Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 11):
According to LAN, it is. And I believe there's still room for more



Quoting AR1300 (Reply 12):
heack yeah.All the planes are in a load factor of 80+.Tourism is flourishing like never before with the currency exchange.

como andan che? todo bien?

I don't have the actual numbers, but as mentioned, Argentina is now experiencing an almost unprecedented (foreign) touristic boom. It has been constantly growing since the devaluation adn since things calmed down (although there are still many problems Sad ). Never before have I experienced running into so many foregin tourists, aside Brazilians, who have always had BA as a destination. You meet many Americans, British, Italians, and TONS of Spanish. And that's just in BA, I imagine turistic landmarks such as Iguazu to be full as well. So yes, there is a market no doubt!

saludos



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