Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Bombing Prevented On ASA Flight To ATL?  
User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8028 times:

Heard on the news that there are preliminary reports that someone tried to get a bomb on board ASA flight 4806 from ISO to ATL. They said it was 3 sticks of dynamite wired to a cell phone. Anyone have any more info? The Delta website says 4806 is cancelled.

[Edited 2005-08-12 03:23:05]

35 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineHNL From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 354 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7966 times:

Yowza - HOW did that get through TSA?


HNL - There's no place like it!
User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7948 times:

The ISO-ATL was canceled (ISO is Kinston, NC)
What kind of crazy would put a bomb on that plane. I mean, I don't condone bombs on planes, obviosly, but if you can get it on an ATL-ISO flight, then you could probably get it on a heavy 767. (not giving terrorists ideas here, but I think I do have a good point here)


User currently offlineGoBoeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2715 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7938 times:

In case anyone else did not know where ISO airport is I found it online as Kinston, North Carolina. The hold-the-mouse-over-the-identifier feature doesn't cover this one.

Nick


User currently offlineSquirrel83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7936 times:

Sources? Any nEws feeds? I did a search but was unable to come up with anything.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12173 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7900 times:

Quoting HNL (Reply 1):
Yowza - HOW did that get through TSA?

They probibly hid it in plan site. TSA=thousands Standing Around

Quoting Positiverate (Thread starter):
Heard on the news that there are preliminary reports that someone tried to get a bomb on board ASA flight 4806 from ISO to ATL. They said it was 3 sticks of dynamite wired to a cell phone. Anyone have any more info? The Delta website says 4806 is cancelled.

You said they TRIED to get it aboard? If they suceeded, then they did get it aboard. Was the flight canceled by the FBI to gather evidence?


User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7889 times:

I think it's preliminary (heard it on Fox). I amended the thread heading to reflect that they caught it before it got on the plane.

User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7883 times:

Maybe it was another stupid idiot trying to be funny...

User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7881 times:

Weird though; two bombs caught in the same day on DL: one in OKC, one in ISO.

User currently offlineRamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7848 times:

Maybe they were trying to get in thru the back door. The 9-11 terrorists went thru security in Bangor, Maine (kind of funny that now Bangor is the divert airport for aircrafts with passengers on the exclusive no-fly list). Anyway, maybe they had a connecting flight on a widebody from ATL.
Was this checked or carried on???
SR



W N = my Worst Nightmare!!!!!
User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7806 times:

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 8):
one in OKC

Wow

Is there a thread for the OKC bomb?



"If the facts do not conform to the theory, they will have to be disposed of"
User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7771 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
TSA=thousands Standing Around

Take scissors Away.

Quoting Juventus (Reply 7):
Maybe it was another stupid idiot trying to be funny...

He will not get the last laugh.

Quoting RamerinianAir (Reply 9):
The 9-11 terrorists went thru security in Bangor, Maine

Portland, Maine.


User currently offlineUtapao From Thailand, joined Jul 2005, 645 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7733 times:

Quoting Ejmmsu (Reply 10):
Is there a thread for the OKC bomb?

Norman Man Out on Bail



Sawasdee khrab!
User currently offline777KLM From China, joined Apr 2005, 532 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7732 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 11):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
TSA=thousands Standing Around

Take scissors Away.

Sorry, for a simple Dutch boy who's not very familiar with the American security system, what does it really stand for?



Next flight: AMS-PEK
User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7717 times:

Quoting 777KLM (Reply 13):
Sorry, for a simple Dutch boy who's not very familiar with the American security system, what does it really stand for?

Transportation Security Administration, part of the Department of Barnyard Security (DHS).


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7669 times:

The 9-11 terrorists went thru security in Bangor, Maine (kind of funny that now Bangor is the divert airport for aircrafts with passengers on the exclusive no-fly list).

Incorrect. They boarded through Portland, Maine....about 2 1/2 hours south of BGR.



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7643 times:

Everybody relax it was just a toothbrush.

End of story.

TokyoNarita.


User currently offlineCVG2LGA From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7440 times:

nice to see that TWO, TWO "explosive devices" were found by the TSA screeners in each city.
SAD to see that there are still idiots around that think TSA are totally useless.
Congrats TSA on these finds.
If you read the article "Norman man out on bail" you will see that perhaps this kid did use explosives for fun and just forgot it was in his bag. That is no excuse ever! If you know you are going to be traveling with a bag, make sure there is nothing in it by accident or previous trip that will cause you a delay at the checkpoint-not only does it hold YOU up but EVERYONE behind you too. Yea I know that is just common sense- talk about a commodity of high demand and short supply.
But you might see a young man who you know NOTHING about (i.e, mentality, temper, depressed, suicidal/homicidal tendencies) who could be dangerous to others. Either way its a good thing this IED was stopped before anything could happen.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
Quoting HNL (Reply 1):
Yowza - HOW did that get through TSA?

They probibly hid it in plan site. TSA=thousands Standing Around


They Stopped Abomb!

Ok two actually, TWO, TWO!!!
Tchau
DA-

*** Also amazing to see how FEW posts there are when TSA does something outstanding for aviation security.
**Thousands Saving Lives** yea even yours.



They don't call em' emergencies anymore. They call em' Patronies.
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21562 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7431 times:

Here is something nice about the TSA...

I think TSA does a fine job in LAX, IAH, TPA, SNA, SRQ, MCO, PBI and SLC, in my vast or limited experience with those airports. I've always felt they were scanning the monitors carefully, watching the eyes and behaviors of pax, pulling bags for a second search when they see ANYTHING out of the ordinary, etc. And in general, they make it very risky for someone to try to come through with something bad, which is the whole point, to discourage. They work hand in hand with the rent-a-cops that work the lines pre and post screening, and I feel as safe as I guess I can expect to without being subjected to strip searches, and they generally do it with a friendly, positive attitude.

Unfortunately, the TSA seem to be made up of the same clowns at EWR, JFK, and LGA that were working there pre-911. I'm a new yorker by birth, but I am ashamed of the level of professionalism at these three airports.

Chatting about personal lives, not watching the monitors, copping attitudes with everyone, just horrible.

You'd think NYC would be extra cautious, not the least professional in the country.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7422 times:

Quoting CVG2LGA (Reply 17):
nice to see that TWO, TWO "explosive devices" were found by the TSA screeners in each city.
SAD to see that there are still idiots around that think TSA are totally useless.
Congrats TSA on these finds.

It was a toothbrush ...another good laugh  Smile

The TSA are OK I guess


User currently offlineCVG2LGA From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7382 times:

I've flown out of LGA on Delta, and also ATA. I've never had any problems with the screeners. They were nice and the ones I saw anyway were paying attention to thier jobs. I even met a few who chatted with me after getting off the subway at JFK. We talked about the job and differences there and in Cincy. After going through the checkpoint for ATA, I don't know if I could handle it. So many people and so little room lol. It reminds me working the checkpoint in CVG outside of Customs, if anyone here remembers that a few years ago it was and still is terrible at times.
Many arriving pax and a small exit and lots of hurry.
Tchau
DA-



They don't call em' emergencies anymore. They call em' Patronies.
User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7348 times:

Quoting CVG2LGA (Reply 17):
Congrats TSA on these finds.

Also congrats to them for finding United States Congressman John Hostettler’s loaded 9mm at SDF in April 2004 that he "completely forgot."

Quoting CVG2LGA (Reply 20):
They were nice

Paramount in screeners’ job duties.


User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7261 times:

Dentist causes nearly 4-hour lockdown
August 12,2005
Michael Abernthey
staff writer

Kinston Regional Jetport was on lockdown for more than three hours Thursday night after a suspicious item was found in a New Bern dentist's luggage.

At about 6 p.m., Darryl Warren and four other passengers were stopped from boarding Delta Flight 4806 bound for Atlanta after X-ray technicians saw a small device with protruding wires in Warren's bag.

Units from Kinston Public Safety Department, North Lenoir Fire Department, state Highway Patrol, the Lenoir County fire marshal and an FBI agent responded to an alarm from the jetport's communication center. Roads leading to the airport remained closed while the threat was investigated.

Warren was detained and questioned by Lenoir County sheriff's deputies for three and a half hours while the bomb squad from Marine Air Corps Station at Cherry Point checked the device and determined it was not a safety threat.

Passengers remained on the plane while authorities dismantled and checked the device for explosives. Delta later canceled the Atlanta flight and sent passengers who were not from Kinston to a hotel.

The item that caused the furor was an oral cleaning device.

Detective Sgt. Jeff A. Herring of Lenoir County Sheriff's Office said the small hose attached to the device appeared to be wires that aroused the suspicion of airport security.

"The item didn't appear to be what it was described to be," Herring said. "It didn't look like what it was."

"To be honest, I saw it on the monitor and it did look suspicious," Warren said. "It was just a possible threat, I guess."

Warren was on his way to Florida to attend a dental seminar.

"This is the first time we have had to respond to an actual incident," Herring said. "We have trained for this, but this is the first time we've had an incident."

Herring said the timing of the lockdown was opportune because Lenoir County emergency teams had completed disaster drills and training last week. Because of that training, he said, everything "fell into place" Thursday.

"The good thing about training is that you learn from it and see things you may need to change later," Herring said.

Officials hope that people will learn to be careful about what they pack.

"I recommend that passengers check baggage closely before they board a flight," Herring said. "If there's anything that might be suspicious looking, let the (X-ray) technician know."

After Warren was detained, four passengers who were not allowed to board the flight were kept in the parking lot by Transportation Security Officials.

Yoel Bakas, an employee of Varian Medical Systems in Atlanta, had no idea that the man he stood behind in line and talked with casually while waiting to board would be detained by airport security.

"He seemed like a nice guy," Bakas said. "(Security) saw something in the bag they didn't like and pulled him aside." Bakas said he heard Warren tell security that it was a Water Pik.

Bakas and the three other passengers - Satya Chakravorty and Jerry Asbell of Atlanta, and Tim Wynn of Philadelphia -were tired and frustrated after waiting for officials to tell them they could leave. But they said the events would give them a good story to tell folks back home.

"This is my worst nightmare," said Tim Wynn, a passenger from Philadelphia who was not allowed to board the plane. "I have a lot of stories to tell, but this one takes the cake."


Michael Abernethy can be reached at (252) 527-3191, Ext. 273, or at mabernethy@freedomenc.com.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7181 times:

Ok, credit where due . . . .  faint 

I recently read an article where the TSA is soliciting for appropriate technology so we can keep our shoes on while clearing security - that'll be nice . . . won't have to change my socks before I put my shoes back on at Security any longer so I can trashcan the socks in which I've walked the airport floor picking up who the hell knows what kind of fungi from my fellow passengers . . . .

And good catch on two explosive devices . . .. about time all the gawddamn money we've spent was seen to show a positive result - and gotten away from the 80 year old Granny's with walkers and the bottles of breast milk.

Now if we could just get the TSA to treat passengers items as if it were their own???

On a progress scale of 1 to 10 for the TSA, this rates about a +.005. They have a LOOOONGGG way to go before I'm satisfied my tax dollars aren't being pissed away by incompetent morons.

TSA=THOUSANDS STANDING AROUND=STILL USELESS


User currently offlineGoodmanr From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6852 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 18):
Unfortunately, the TSA seem to be made up of the same clowns at EWR, JFK, and LGA that were working there pre-911. I'm a new yorker by birth, but I am ashamed of the level of professionalism at these three airports.

Chatting about personal lives, not watching the monitors, copping attitudes with everyone, just horrible.

You'd think NYC would be extra cautious, not the least professional in the country.

At both DCA and IAD they do a terrible job as well. They are all joking around with eachother and not looking at the monitors. The only other place where security is a bigger joke is at GVA, where last month I boarded an AS flight to Vienna for a connection to IAD. I had been backcountry skiing and had a decenetly large knife in my bag. At GVA they completely missed it, but when I was rechecked at the gate in Vienna, they were incredibly good. They found the knife, and patted down everyone. There were also dogs on both sides of the jetway who you had to walk through prior to boarding. I was really impressed with the security operation in Vienna, but Dulles is pretty bad. Best security in the US I've been through is actually HHH.



USAirways - Chairmans Gold
25 Jetpixx : I love how everyone thinks they have all of the answers, can do a better job, know so much more. I am not saying that the TSA is perfect - far from it
26 Robsawatsky : OK, so how did the first post report 3 sticks of dynamite wired to a cell phone, when it was a dental device? Is this what the screener "guessed" it m
27 Positiverate : I was just reporting what was said on the news...
28 Ikramerica : Actually, being nice and courteous is important because it will create more cooperative and faster pax, and it will make really nervous people that m
29 Crogalski : LOL! Thats so true.. I was working in JFK for 3 days out on the ramp to help them out last month, and, I did some time in the bag room, and, I have n
30 Goodmanr : I go to GVA every month or two and have only seen heavily armed guards two or three times. I rarely, if ever, travel to Zurich but GVA is a really op
31 David L : A Tim "the Tool Man" Taylor job? What makes it worse is that, after you've checked your bags in and gone through to departures, there's a shop that s
32 Jafa39 : This is turning into a terrorists helpdesk, maybe I am just being paranoid but isnt it in the national interest for Americans to be very quiet about
33 Positiverate : Which, according to TSA would be just about every international airport outside the US. There's a reason they order everything coming off int'l fligh
34 ANCFlyer : I wonder what Mr. CVG2LGA has to say about that!?!?! Should have taken pics - and mailed them to your newpaper. Lazy, worthless, overpaid, morons. No
35 FlyingTexan : Some Federal Government jobs. Wait ‘till the union comes in.
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Supermodel Scandal On A JAT Flight To Dubai posted Sat Oct 8 2005 12:55:12 by JoKeR
Injured Passengers On BA Flight To Accra posted Sun Apr 10 2005 22:58:43 by Soups
Bird-strike On Swiss Flight To EWR posted Tue Aug 31 2004 15:09:36 by Poh2
Stowaway Found On BA Flight To JFK posted Wed Dec 31 2003 06:25:58 by Jayhup
Drunk Norwegian Caused Panic On Thai Flight To CPH posted Thu Nov 13 2003 12:53:17 by TR
Any News On Concorde Flight To Seattle? posted Tue Oct 28 2003 17:28:36 by ScarletHarlot
Concorde Sets A Record On The Flight To Boston posted Thu Oct 9 2003 16:43:16 by GDB
Why Would CO Use A 777 On Only 1 Flight To EWR? posted Thu Aug 21 2003 05:54:58 by Cmckeithen
Man Stabbed On Thai Flight To Sydney posted Wed Jul 16 2003 10:00:57 by ROP
Passenger Dies On PIA Flight To London posted Mon Jul 15 2002 14:32:45 by Airmale