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New Air Madrid TLC-Barcelona  
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3223 times:

La compañía aérea Air-Madrid anunció que a partir del 27 de octubre ofrecerán vuelos a Barcelona desde el Aeropuerto Internacional de Toluca. Con este destino, la terminal mexiquense ya estará dando servicio comercial a Madrid, Houston y Cancún. "La ruta de Madrid ha sido un éxito y podemos abrir una puerta más. Ya está todo estudiado y planeado", informó en conferencia José Luis Carrillo, presidente de la compañía aérea. Carrillo detalló que el primer aterrizaje de un avión proveniente de Barcelona se espera el 27 de octubre y por el momento será un vuelo semanal y el vuelo redondo oscilará entre los 600 dólares. El empresario señaló que la capacidad de los vuelos, de 252 personas, y los precios pueden ser similares o iguales a los de la actual ruta Madrid-Toluca.


Effectively, October 27th, Air Madrid will start a new TLC-BCN with A340.

Does anybody knows if this will affect the second frequency on the TLC-MAD?

More pressure on CINTRA and AM!!

Ricardo APM


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User currently offlineKLM685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

A flight to BCN!!! AMAZING!!!! We should have that at MEX!!!! This is getting things absurd for CINTRA. I hope they react soon. Are they going to let Air Madrid take away all the cake?!?


But good for TLC and Air Madrid!!

Alonsou



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User currently offlineBullpitt From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 871 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

As long as the paps remember that their flight will be 17 hours late and that they will loose all their conections, then I'm sure they will take all the bussiness.
 bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7572 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3067 times:

This is like a bucket of cold water on AM, who is in theory assessing the feasibility of operating to BCN from MEX on a non-stop basis.

The strenghts of Air Madrid are its ability to offer more seats per flight in a modern aircraft (A340 vs. AM's 762ER's) and its attractive fares. On the other hand, if AM moves fast, it could be competitive since many people still don't consider commuting to TLC as an option and because Air Madrid is a newcomer to the country with a bad reputation in terms of on-time performance (whereas AM is well regarded in that area).



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User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3041 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3013 times:

This is very interesting, I think Air Madrid has found its gold mine in Mexico

Is there a terminal with jetways in TLC?


User currently offlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2996 times:

Toluca has a small terminal but no jetway(s).


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User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2717 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 4):
This is very interesting, I think Air Madrid has found its gold mine in Mexico

You mean, Air Madrid has found one of Iberia's most important gold mines, if not the most important.

Very interesting how TAP's gold mine is Brazil, while Iberia's is Mexico and Argentina. Some things haven't changed nearly after 200 years or so...

 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineMGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Thread starter):
El empresario señaló que la capacidad de los vuelos, de 252 personas



Quoting Ghost77 (Thread starter):
Effectively, October 27th, Air Madrid will start a new TLC-BCN with A340

Wouldnt the 252 be the apacity for the 310 they have at the moment? Their 330 fits 298 and is ¨smaller¨ than the 343.

http://www.airmadrid.com/info_flota.do

MGA



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User currently offlineSkyone From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

Quoting Bullpitt (Reply 2):
As long as the paps remember that their flight will be 17 hours late and that they will loose all their conections, then I'm sure they will take all the bussiness.

Well, at least I know tons of people that fly to Madrid and only care about low prices. They are already booked for september or planning on doing it. And also, Air Madrid gave them free transportation to TLC from Mexico City, so they booked them imediately. The other one just needed to come back to Mexico on a one way and was thanking me for getting him a one way ticket to Mexico for less than $500 USD.
Well, I guess al the people standed in MAD with negative space tickets from AM at the end of july finally decided it was cheaper to buy an Air Madrid Ticket and get back to Mexico than staying there in Barajas spending all their money until AM had empty seats to fly them to Mexico, jejeje.


User currently offlineLegacy135 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1052 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

Quoting MGA (Reply 7):
Wouldnt the 252 be the apacity for the 310 they have at the moment? Their 330 fits 298 and is ¨smaller¨ than the 343.

What I could see on AirMadrid's homepage is that they offer apart from Eco and Biz also First class seats on the A340. As they got this plane from Air France it might be possible that they left it in AF configuration. This may be a reason why capacity on the A340 seems to be less. Would be good for the clients on the A340, having more space  Wink


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

I used to say that AM's next European destination would be Barcelona, not LHR or FRA. Air Madrid beat me to the punch...

Saludos


User currently offlineIberiadc852 From Spain, joined May 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Quoting Legacy135 (Reply 9):
Would be good for the clients on the A340, having more space

I find more likely to believe that Air Madrid offered five-class onboard, but even in that case i just can't believe that they can get enough with 252 seats in a 343.



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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2802 times:

Wow! Barcelona keeps getting more and more wide-bodies!

The way I could see it affecting loads is if people who live in Catalonia and Aragon who flow out of MAD to get to TLC would probably now fly out of BCN because it would be closer to some people.



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2387 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

Well, it looks like they are going to base an A330-200 in Barcelona which will operate the following programme:
Monday: BCN-TFN-EZE
Tuesday: EZE-TFN-BCN-LIM
Wednesday: LIM-BCN
Thursday: BCN-TFN-SCL
Friday: SCL-TFN-BCN
Sunday: BCN-BOG-CTG-BCN



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2387 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Well, it looks like they are going to base an A330-200 in Barcelona which will operate the following programme:
Monday: BCN-TFN-EZE
Tuesday: EZE-TFN-BCN-LIM
Wednesday: LIM-BCN
Thursday: BCN-TFN-SCL
Friday: SCL-TFN-BCN
Sunday: BCN-BOG-CTG-BCN



Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 6):
Some things haven't changed nearly after 200 years or so...

....and I wonder why still, no links from Spain to Manila?



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User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2717 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 15):
...and I wonder why still, no links from Spain to Manila?

Well, for starters, during the colonial period, all contact between the royal crown and Manila was done through Mexico City as this was not only the capital of what is now Mexico but also 'Las Islas Filipinas'. As a matter of fact, the territory was always a loss maker for the the Spanish crown, and thanks to the wealth generated by the then crown jewel's of Spain "Mexico", the Island's administration was paid with heavy subsidies of New Spain (today Mexico).

Contact between Manila and the royal Spanish crown were done: Manila - Acapulco -Mexico City - Veracruz - La Havana.

 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineAer From Guatemala, joined Mar 2004, 1048 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

Any idea if they are considering GUA at the moment or not really?


nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
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