LatinAviation From Ireland, joined Nov 2003, 1261 posts, RR: 19 Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1784 times:
Yes, I believe so. This is one of three 757s they're acquiring. Per Airways News Online, it was delivered July 9.
07/09/2005 Atlantic Express 757-2Q8 N403JS 27351/LN 639 LF ILFC 7/05 ex N764MX (new listing)
JFKviaPHX From United States, joined Feb 2004, 194 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1686 times:
It was sitting on the hard stand at T4 for a few weeks. The other day the aircraft departed from JFK (Tuesday around 2000 or so.) The aircraft is all white. I was wondering who's aircraft it was until I saw the ads in the Airport Press for Eos now hiring at JFK.
N405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1571 times:
N764MX leaved MX about march this year, it was returned to the lessor and stored in the Us until they found a new operator. The aircraft leave MEX all white with only the reg.
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Brido From United States, joined Mar 2000, 160 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 18 hours ago) and read 1371 times:
Quoting RobK (Reply 4): orrect me if I'm wrong, but N764MX isn't ETOPS certified so how do they plan to operate an Atlantic service?
RK
Question: Is a particular AIRPLANE certified for ETOPS, or is it the OPERATION? Can you tell by the reg number or former operator?
Also in this case the aircraft came from Mexico. They don't do ETOPS in the same way we do. I don't believe this has any bearing on Eos' ability to operate as an ETOPS carrier.
RobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3240 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 1215 times:
Sorry Brido, I have no idea in what's involved making an non-ETOPS aircraft an ETOPS one.
I've always thought that once an aircraft becomes ETOPS certified then that stays with the aircraft, but in reality I'm only guessing. Perhaps someone with more superior knowledge than ourselves could clarify for us?
N770WD From United States, joined Sep 2004, 110 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 1103 times:
There are four basic components to ETOPS:
(1) Aircraft (having an aircraft that meets ETOPS regulations, including cargo hold fire suppression, backup systems, satellite communications capabilities, rafts, etc.)
(2) Crews (having cockpit crews and dispatchers trained and fluent in ETOPS procedures)
(3) Maintenance (maintaining the aircraft to ETOPS standards, including separate engine inspections, special pre-departure checks, etc.) and
(4) Experience (showng reliability and safety by operating to ETOPS standards on non-ETOPS routings for a period of time).
In the US, ETOPS is a guideline, determined by Advisory Circular AC 120-42. It is not a regulation, and therefore the implementation of ETOPS by carrier is based somewhat on the judgment of the local certificate-holding office.
It IS possible to fly the Atlantic routes without ETOPS capabilities. The aircraft must stay 60 minutes from an approved and available alternate airport. This means there are two critical en-route facilities for transatlantic crossings: Sondre Stromfjord (BGSF) and Keflavik. During the summer months, this adds flight time. During the winter months, if conditions at either SFJ or KEF drop below minimums, it can delay the flight.
There should be more coordination among FAA, JAA and ICAO regarding ETOPS qualification procedures. It is generally believed that ETOPS qualification for a startup is more difficult in the US than in Europe. While there is nothing in the regulations that would prohibit a US-flag startup from having ETOPS out of the box, there is language in FAA materials that suggests as much as a year's experience is required to prove reliability before ETOPS is granted. America West has been trying for more than a year to achieve ETOPS/180 on their 757 fleet to be able to operate PHX-Hawaii.
You're right, it isn't. I hadn't realised that. So if the aircraft is not ETOPS certified then like N770WD says, that's going to mean some lengthy flights as they're gonna have to go close to Iceland and Greenland and that most certainly isn't the quickest way from STN to JFK!
What are they going to do if the(ir one) aircraft goes u/s though?
Somehow I can't see this service lasting very long at all BUT I wish them success with it along with the MaxJet bloke.
Cdeanda From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 84 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 852 times:
Quoting N405MX (Reply 7): N764MX leaved MX about march this year, it was returned to the lessor and stored in the Us
I saw N764MX and N755MX while I was doing a X-country to Abbotsford Intl CYXX / YXX in early May 2005. I was surprised to see them so I visited the control tower to have a better view and ask about the two planes without getting any accurate response.
At the end I sent an e-mail to Cascade Aerospace and they told me they received the planes to make some small interior modifications for Atlantic Express. They were also expecting a 3rd 757 by that time.
N405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 12 Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 766 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 15): Wouldn't a Mexicana plane be registered in Mexico?
Depends on the cost for the reg and the lease contract, some buses are F- registered (F-OHMK) or N registered (N405MX) because it was cheapper than get an XA- reg.
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N801DM From United States, joined Sep 2004, 86 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 505 times:
When a foreign operated airline has a US registered aircraft the maintenance programs have to be approved by the FAA. Often a FAA Principal Maintenance Inspector gets assigned to these operators and they do ramp checks on the aircraft when they get a chance. Along with the FAA approved program all maintenance log entries must be made in English.
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