Indy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4483 posts, RR: 19 Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4989 times:
In a story related to NW's walkout plans it was noted that they are dropping the SEA seasonal service and adding a 4th daily flight to LGA.
"The airline intends to end seasonal service from Indianapolis to Seattle two days early, on Aug. 19, Ebenhoch said. However, the airline also plans to add a fourth daily departure to New York's LaGuardia Airport."
Indy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4483 posts, RR: 19 Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4821 times:
Is that really bad? Just checked and NY runs 1000 seats a day which is up there with LAS and MCO. Last I checked WN, NW, FL and TZ fly nonstop to MCO with similar demand. So you are talking a minimum of 4 mainline flights a day to MCO. With LGA you are looking at two mainline between NW and US. Then again they can't be making much money off the MCO route.
Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7479 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4785 times:
Actually, I have a feeling that they are doing this due to the strike, hints, getting another plane back, instead of using a plane from IND-SEA-IND rather they can just book them through MSP, DTW, or Memphis. The dates that they changed it to are perfect timing for it, im sure it will return next year.
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Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3629 posts, RR: 29 Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4620 times:
They moved the beginning of the fall schedule up a few weeks to August 20 to limit the impact should a strike occur on the 20th. The fall schedule has fewer flights, therefore fewer opportunities to affect people.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21750 posts, RR: 19 Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4582 times:
I've heard here that US has very good yields ex-LGA but often only marginal loads. That's why you'll see cheap connections through LGA from time to time- any money they can make on the empty seats is basically pure profit. New service will surely dilute loads, but if the yields can take it, it's good for consumers.
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Knope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2642 posts, RR: 30 Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4398 times:
The IND-SEA nonstop was only planned to be "seasonal", and I recall in early July seeing that it was planned to end prior to Labor Day weekend. I don't think this is something they quickly decided to pull in anticipation of the strike. Back when the schedule was loaded the cooling-off clock had not yet been started.
Jetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 813 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4342 times:
Quoting SRT75 (Reply 2): LGA is probably more convenient than JFK for the business person who has a meeting in Manhattan in the afternoon and plans to return home that night.
In my experience flying into NYC - I find JFK so much more convenient with connections to the AirTrain, subway and LIRR nearly seemless. LGA is not nearly as connected to public transportation - unless you want to take a stanky bus or an expensive cab ride down to Manhattan. I think if JFK promoted themselves as such, they'd have a lot more domestic travel if they wanted it.
Indy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4483 posts, RR: 19 Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4341 times:
Quoting LGAtoIND (Reply 11): The LGA-IND flight has an A319 on the route, not 2 DC 9s, like someone said earlier. I think the LGA-IND flight has a 319, but coming back the other way there is none for some reason.
It does seem odd that 146 is a DC9 but 147 is an A319.
FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2902 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4307 times:
I flew round trip LGA to IND on NW on a random weekend this past spring, and both flights were packed. Doesn't say anything about yields (I know my fare was pretty darn cheap), but there is definitely plenty of demand, and sometimes with enough butts filling seats you can still make money even with relatively low yields.
Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 12): unless you want to take a stanky bus or an expensive cab ride down to Manhattan.
Just for the record, the M60 bus to Manhattan is not "stanky", nor is any other MTA bus I've seen lately. They're quite clean, modern and comfortable. Slow, yes, but not stanky! Besides, it's hard to beat the $2.00 fare.
Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 13): What airport would be more convenient if i wanted to take a day trip to NYC?
For pure convenience when you don't have a lot of time, it's hard to beat LGA. You can get to Manhattan in 15 minutes by cab (for $20-$25 including tip and toll) if it's not rush hour. I would say EWR is a close second--you can take the monorail from the terminal to the train station, then it's a 15-minute ride to Penn Station for $11. This depends on train schedules, though--at night and on weekends there can be a long wait until the next train if you don't time it just right. JFK is also not bad now that the AirTrain is up and running. It's a short ride to Jamaica, then maybe 15 minutes on the LIRR to Penn Station, and those trains run frequently. I don't recommend the subway from JFK, especially if you're not familiar with the city. Like the M60 bus from LGA, it's cheap but can be pretty slow.
M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2218 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4249 times:
It's pretty transparent that they are calling the August 20 schedule change "the Fall Schedule". Fall always was after Labor day before. Less hours flying to help if mechs strike OR/AND are locked out. I'd liked to have seen the load factors on IND/SEA flights vs the MEM/SEA. We could not seem to get enough seats out of MEM. Always full in summer at least with cruise and normal SEA loads.
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Fedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3464 times:
Who knows you might just kick out Air Canada. I dont even call that Air Canada. It looks like a private airplane really. I want to see the pretty Air Canada birds wont happen i know. Would be awesome to see a A319 here in the Air Canada colors though!!! Eric
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Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7479 posts, RR: 9 Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3046 times:
Just found out the likely reason that they are dropping those flights for a bit is because of the new Midwest-Las Vegas service that they need those A319's, though Denver flight was always full... maybe when they get their other A319s that are on order they will serve it once again.
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