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Hughes Airport; Abandoned Los Angeles Airport  
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39690 posts, RR: 75
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9681 times:

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/Airfields_CA_LA_W.htm

Hughes Airport near Culver City?
It was on Centinela Bl. near the 405 freeway. I remember years ago (1978) seeing a L-188 or Convair 340 sitting there along with a free private planes.
Are there any photos in the database from this airport?
Anyone here know what the airport code for this airport was?



http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/Hughes_CA_ne_78.jpg


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User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9662 times:

It´s funny but I was just yesterday wondering what happened to the airfield. That site you gave answers a number of questions.
cheers,
and hows life in the city?


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9591 times:

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
Anyone here know what the airport code for this airport was?

According to verbage from a yahoo search: ... Culver City Hughes - Airport code: CVR ...

Thanks for providing the link to the historical website. That was some interesting reading.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39690 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9482 times:

Quoting ILOVEA340 (Reply 1):
hows life in the city?

Great!
Thanks for asking.  Smile
How is life in Switzerland?
If you see Cfalk, slap him around a few times.  Silly



Tom:
Did you ever go by that airport when you lived in SoCal?



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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9410 times:

As I recall, you could see a bit of it while traveling down the 405 towards LAX. It was backed up against that hillside and fronted onto Jefferson Blvd. I remember driving north on Lincoln and down the hill to Jefferson a couple of times years ago (perhaps when the 405 was tied up), but nothing about the place really stood out to me.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39690 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9246 times:

The only thing down there now is a Ford dealership and a tall glass Wang building.


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User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9184 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
tall glass Wang building

:P

-IR


User currently offlineHalophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 646 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8955 times:

What a fascinating story! For years I had driven past there on the PCH between LAX and Venice and always wondered why there was such a lot of 'vacant' land to the East. Thanks for sharing!


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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8922 times:

Houston Hobby was originally called Hughes Airport.

Howard Hughes was a Houstonian by birth.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8885 times:

This land is now being developed into housing. All sorts of condos and townhomes, with nice facilities, etc. It is across the street from a Home Depot, a Costco, a major Post Office station, and lots of office buildings. Sony Studios Costume and Props is also across from it.

Up the hill is Loyala Marymount University.

Before the housing projects (called Playa Vista, since it is inland from Playa del Rey, and you can "see" it from some points), this land was still up for grabs. It was owned by a Hughes heir, some sort of niece or cousin or something, and this woman still owns a couple houses in Playa del Rey, IIRC.

http://www.playavista.com/

http://www.wlaxmdrchamber.com/history/pv.html

Very upscale. Of course, since this was "wetlands" of some kind, despite a severe lack of water, there was massive opposition to doing anything here at all. Same groups oppose any expansion at LAX, BTW.

http://www.saveballona.org/

In the early days of Dreamworks SKG, they were considering building their own studio lot, and this property was the front runner. Then, when Dreamworks decided to stay at Universal and not have a dedicated sound stage facility, there was still talk of an independent film studio and backlot here, but it never materialized. Would have been a great place for it, though. But I think people in Hollywood backed down so as not to look like they didn't care about the wetlands (even though they really don't).

The Spruce Goose was also built here. Then it was brought to the water in Mariana del Rey, assembled further and towed to Long Beach (could be confused on the exact details, but I think that's how it went down).

And now you know.



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User currently offlineHalophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 646 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8848 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 9):
Of course, since this was "wetlands" of some kind, despite a severe lack of water, there was massive opposition to doing anything here at all.

Sounds to me from their website (saveballona.org) like there are some major bioremediation issues at work here too (although the hydrogen sulfide buildup they mention occurs naturally in all swamp / wetland areas with large organic matter deposition). Incidentally, I think one of the LAX oppositions was due to the close proximity of the airport to a rare butterfly habitat on the sand dunes opposite the ends of the runways. You can see the signs for this along the road running from El Segundo to Playa del Rey.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8837 times:

Quoting Halophila (Reply 10):
Incidentally, I think one of the LAX oppositions was due to the close proximity of the airport to a rare butterfly habitat on the sand dunes opposite the ends of the runways. You can see the signs for this along the road running from El Segundo to Playa del Rey.

Yes, and some sort of rock shrimp of some kind, IIRC. Both do not naturally live there, but live there now because of the altered landscape created by the original LAX project. But we still must protect these species who are now living in a place they don't belong. At least that's how I understand the issue. But anytime you are talking environmental issues, the truth is NOWHERE to be found, as both sides will argue the opposite extremes, since the goal of most environmental groups is to stop any and all development at any cost, and the goal of most developers is to use as much land as cheaply as possible.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39690 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8207 times:

Glad to see so many people here still knows about this airport. Very interesting replys.
I figured there had to have been some legal hold up to the development of this area. Considering LA has hardly no more land to develope.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39690 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 7067 times:

When looking at maps of LA circa 1970s, there seemed to be a lot more general aviation airports than today.


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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6915 times:

Quoting Superfly (Thread starter):
http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/Airfields_CA_LA_W.htm

A very interesting site !

Related: Does anybody have a link for such a site for the U.K. ?

-HT



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User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6882 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 14):
Related: Does anybody have a link for such a site for the U.K. ?

http://www.controltowers.co.uk/ and http://www.danhamblin.btinternet.co.uk/pages/bob.htm

Yours in realtime
JHSfan



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39690 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6772 times:

HT & JHSfan:
How ironic.
I started a thread in the Aviation Photography forums on cheap camera photos in the database and someone posted this photo at an airport in the UK that's now abandon.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Paul Dopson - AirTeamImages


I must say, for a 110 camera, that's a good picture.



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User currently offlineEfohdee From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6759 times:

I grew up in Westchester immediately south of the airfield. I do remember seeing quite a few different aircraft coming and going from the facility. Once I was on a school bus I was like 6 or 7 we drove right in front of the west end and there was this huge propellor plane that must have just landed, it had underwing tanks but I thought they were bombs. It was probably a C-130. Also seen a few small biz type aircraft like Kingairs and bizjets. But by far I remember all the helicopter traffic, it was Hughes Helicopters during that time. Lots of recip Hughes 269 and Hughes 500/OH-6 buzzing around. Quite a few UH-1 Hueys also. After McDonnell Douglas bought out Hughes in the late 80's activity decreased there rapidly. The last aicraft I can remember seen flying out of there was in the late 80's.
The Hughes property included the bluffs to the south. As I was growing up they were my old stomping ground. Security guards used to come chase us around in white pickup trucks. We used to fly model rockets on the property and the would wind up landing on the old runway.
Most of the property has been developed. Whats left is the two large HK-1 hangars, the small hangar to the west, and the old corporate buildings on the east end. A couple years ago I was biking in the area and saw an old, torn tattered windsock still blowing there on what was one of the helipads, like an old ghost of a bygone era. Also some of the buildings under the final approach path still had the red obstruction lights on. I did see in a pile of rubble some old concrete barriers with the red and white obstruction paint faded.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39690 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6699 times:

Efohdee:
Awesome to hear that!
SOunds like the property just slowly died.



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User currently offlineEfohdee From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6531 times:

Also I just finished reading a book titled Howard Hughes-Aviator, written by George J. Marrett. Marrett was a test pilot for Hughes Aircraft and the book basically covers Hughes entire flying career. A very interesting book!! Lots of stories about Hughes and his flying habits, all the different aircraft he designed and flew, his peculiar and sometimes dangerous flying behaviors, and stuff that went on at the Hughes Airport in Culver City. Many times it is written that Hughes always parked on the North end of the field under a shed next to a large clump of ecalyptus trees. Then he would drive away in an old beat up Chevy. Thing is I remember those trees and the shed! Up until the last few years the shed was there and it was totally covered with branches and the roof was sagging under the weight. I tried to bike by but the droppings from the trees punctured my tires and I had to walk it home. I drove by again earlier this summer and its gone, all gone! Gobbled up by urban sprawl. Oh well.
Anyways read the book, it's good for any aviation buff.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39690 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6405 times:

Quoting Efohdee (Reply 19):
I drove by again earlier this summer and its gone, all gone! Gobbled up by urban sprawl. Oh well.
Anyways read the book, it's good for any aviation buff.

That's SoCal for you.  Sad

Thanks for the tip on that book.



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6779 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 16 hours ago) and read 6214 times:

Another pic-- let's see you guess the date.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics25/00032299.jpg


User currently offlineEfohdee From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6046 times:

WOW were did you find that one? The runway looks paved so I'd say it was taken mid 1950's. Go there now, things have really changed.

User currently offlineEfohdee From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6031 times:

Check out this one of LAX back in the day. The original control tower.



User currently offlineToering From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5990 times:

I found this web site that I thought would add to this thread. It's about Howard Hughe's XF-11 crash. I thought it was intresting anyways.

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/XF-11_crash_site.htm


25 N62NA : One thing to add to the discussion, re: the site where the Hughes operation used to be in the Ballona wetlands. Apparently, the local gas company (as
26 Airlinelover : That's Superfly alright.. He knows OLD equipment.. What's sad is a lot of these airports that were once so active are or have been torn down for deve
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