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China Allows Unlimited Int. Flights  
User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 53
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

In a recent article by CNN, the Chinese government now plans to allow international carriers unlimited access to western China destinations in a move to spark growth in the nation:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/08/16/west.china.air.ap/index.html

Good news for them! Hopefully the plans will actually come through.

Cheers!  Big grin


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User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Thread starter):
spark growth in the nation:

I think the Chinese citizens already have that aspect down pat!  Smile

Good news for Cathay Pacific, probably not?

Besides maybe Beijing and Hong Kong, what other cities would airlines want to invest into?


User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Don't really know. But, I'm sure that they will pick up just about any location if the population requires travel to it. I guess it depends on whether or not Chinese officials will allow easier travel for Chinese citizens in and out of the country. This would REALLY spark growth for both the country and other carriers.


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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

The important word in this news is 6 WESTern provinces!!

Traffic rights from Europe and America to China are rare these days, so every airline maximizes its rights and flies to Beijing and Shanghai. New rights are usually used for additional flights to both destinations but not for new destinations.

So it is a good move to lift all restrictions to these western provinces where otherwise nobody would fly to.
But the amount of interesting destinations for European or American carriers there is limited. Maybe charter flights to Lhasa could be interesting. I also heard that Urumqui next to Kazachstan is somehow booming and might be of interest for European carriers.
As the provinces of Sichuan and Yunnan are also part of this new deal, they are the most promising. Kunming, Chengdu and Chongquing have big potential.

There are rumors that LH is valuating Chengdu for some time.


User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 3):
But the amount of interesting destinations for European or American carriers there is limited. Maybe charter flights to Lhasa could be interesting. I also heard that Urumqui next to Kazachstan is somehow booming and might be of interest for European carriers.
As the provinces of Sichuan and Yunnan are also part of this new deal, they are the most promising. Kunming, Chengdu and Chongquing have big potential.

There are rumors that LH is valuating Chengdu for some time.

NW/FX/5X would probably find use for a few more cargo frequencies, even in the west, if those'll be made available. Lord knows they'll take all they can get for the rest of the country.



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User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

Maybe when the 787's come on-line, NW can fly non-stop MEM-URC

It will be nice to get from GLH to Urumqi with only one change of planes.



 Smile



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User currently offlineGte439u From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

Quoting A330323X (Reply 4):
I also heard that Urumqui next to Kazachstan is somehow booming and might be of interest for European carriers.

I've recently spent some time in Urumqi, and it certainly is booming. The city has become a distribution point for goods throughout Xinjiang and, really, all of Central Asia. Firms find China's business environment more predictable than those in neighboring nations. Furthermore, Western China is rich in mineral resources.

I would not be surprised to see AF's Dedicate service to Urumqi someday. Already, the city is served by KE from ICN, as well as several CIS carriers. CZ uses the city as its hub point for flights to Central Asia.


User currently offlineSq212 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 272 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

[quote=AirRyan,reply=1]
Besides maybe Beijing and Hong Kong, what other cities would airlines want to invest into?

Many opportunities. Currently many major airports listed herein are in the stage of expansion. Municipal airport expansion is also an eye opener, but it takes time.

Shanghai Hongqiao
Shanghai Pudong
Guangzhou Baiyun (Guangdong)
Beihai (Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region)
Chongqing Jiangbei Chongqing Municipality)
Chengdu Shuangliu (Sichuan)
Guangzhou Huada (Guangdong)
Hangzhou (Zhejiang)
Harbin Yanjiagang (Heilongjiang)
Nanjing Loukou (Jiangsu)
Ningbo (Zhejiang)
Taoxian (Shenyang)
Shenzhen Huangtian (Guangdong)
Tianhe (Hubei)
Tianjin Binghai (Tianjin Municipality)
Urumqi (Xinjiang)
Xiamen (Fujian)
Xi’an Xianyang (Shaanxi)

Cheers


User currently offlineKEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2209 times:

Quoting CNN report :-

The report gave few specifics, but Yang appeared to indicate that restrictions would be lifted over six provinces and autonomous regions in western China that are now home to 32 airports.


The 6 provinces & autonomous regions mentioned in the article are most likely to be :-

Xinjiang/Uygur
major airport : Urumqi

Xizang/Tibet
major airport : Lhasa

Qinghai
major airport : Xining

Gansu
major airport : Lanzhou

Ningxia
major airport : Yinchuan

Yunnan
major airport : Kunming

Urumqi & Kunming have the largest number of foreign carriers at the moment. Urumqi serves mostly Central Asia and former Soviet republics while Kunming to Southeast Asia. As far as I know no other foreign carriers serve the other 4 cities, not even Dragonair.

No wonder China is desperate for other airlines to serve these regions. The keyword here is WEST china. There's no way in hell that China would allow unlimited international flights to their key cities in the much more prosperous East China.

The 6 provinces above are only my best guess. Sichuan province in Central China might even qualify, but with Chengdu & Chongqing are already doing well on their own, they probably don't really need the central govt's help. Perhaps Yunnan might not even in the list but Inner Mongolia instead (major airport = Hohhot). Just my 2 cents...

[Edited 2005-08-17 06:14:09]

User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

Yunnan and Tibet are both mentioned.

From my point of view the new policy should involve all provinces beside the coastal rim. I think Inner Mongolia needs more international carrier as much as Thibet.


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