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Poll - What Do You Think Of The UA/US Merger  
User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8868 posts, RR: 12
Posted (13 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3481 times:

Okay, the poll is exactly what the topic reads - What do you think of the United-US Airways proposed merger.

I'll start. I think it will not be good for the citizens of the United States. You will have one airline basically dominating the country, and they will charge high fares, even though they say they won't (or that's what I think). How about everyone else's opinions?

Jeff

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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6403 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3246 times:

I don't think it's a good deal and I don't think it will go through. UA employee = shareholders will not approve of the deal. It will not get regularatory approval either. The777Man


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User currently offlineUprightnlocked From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 3237 times:

Is that fear coming from you, DeltAirlines? Are you afraid that DL's strangle-hold on the US south will be upset by a far better carrier that does not have to route every flight through ATL, or worse yet, CVG? If anything, this merger (acquisition) will open-up the east coast to better schedules and options to the midwest and west coast. UA's linear hub-system (IAD, ORD, DEN and SFO/LAX) will better serve US Airways fliers (and other southern folk/non-eastern corridor) than DL's ATL, DFW SLC hodge-podge. The big question is how soon will UA/US shut down CLT infavor of IAD or vice versa - two hubs so close to each other do not make sense (a la NW in MSP and DTW). Oh, by the way, UA will NOT KEEP THE A330's! TWA, you interested?

User currently offlineTeahan From Belgium, joined Nov 1999, 5287 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 3235 times:

I doubt think it will happen! I love US Airways!

Jeremiah Teahan



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineCV990A From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 3230 times:

I actually want the deal to go through, as I travel between New York City and Upstate NY several times a year, and the only airline choice is USAirways, which doesn't fly most of these trips on weekends, when I need them, and they already charge outrageous fares. I stopped considering taking the airline a long time ago and just fly myself in my 172, or if the weather's bad I have to drive 4-5+ hours. If this deal is approved then I might consider trying the airlines again. Also, for non-regional flights I never fly either airline anyway, so it doesn't really affect me in my opinion in that department.


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User currently offlineYaki1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 3223 times:

What I hear is UAL will have about 26% market share, thats not dominating the market, so it may get governmernt approval. The unions have board members so it's really only employees voting as stockholders, who can predict what they will say.

User currently offlineFFMilesJunkie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 3219 times:

I don't like it. United has always catered to the business and high yield passenger, rarely caring about the everyday "joe blow" traveler. Just look at their "Economy Plus". Sure it's great for the full fare passenger, but squeezes the back of coach down to 31" of pitch... OUCH!!

VOTE NO!

I may benefit personally from the merger, but I don't like how large this company will become.



User currently offlineVctony From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 3202 times:

I wouldn't like it if it dismantled IAD, if it streingthened IAD then I would love it. I live 9-10 miles from IAD and am in the international flight path. I love seeing those UAL 777s and would love to see UAL's 330s.

User currently offlineAB.400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 3200 times:

United is star-alliance member, in star- alliance are tons of Airbus flying. United itself has many Airbus, and USAir is Airbus´s biggest customer.
That might become a problem for Boeing.


User currently offlineEtops767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 3202 times:

UA a far better carrier than DL? what a joke,the last three times ive flown them,my flight was cancelled because they had no flight crews.got put on DL and was treated to three very nice flights.UA is subpar,give me DL,or CO any day!

User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 3192 times:

If this merger will happen (will be allowed) then most likely a dam will break.
I think it was last year that NW was not allowed to take over Continental. And now an even bigger airline should be allowed to take over an also not unimportant competitor?



User currently offline777x From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3183 times:

I think it's a good thing. UA's east cost presence is lacking (particularly in NY) and US will add some valuable assets to these routes.

As for competition - higher prices WON'T result, because UA and US do not compete on a large number of routes, so this merger will NOT lead to higher prices, If, however, you saw AA and US merge, with significant overlap, you would see a larger reduction in competition, which could result in higher prices.

Let's remember that a combined UA/US still has many competitors, including DL/CO/AA/SW so they won't have the power to control fares any more than they currently do (well maybe a little, but not much).

my 2c


User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3179 times:

I support the merger.

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8868 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Uprightnlocked wrote:
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Is that fear coming from you, DeltAirlines? Are you afraid that DL's strangle-hold on the US south will be upset by a far better carrier that does not have to route every flight through ATL, or worse yet, CVG? If anything, this merger (acquisition) will open-up the east coast to better schedules and options to the midwest and west coast. UA's linear hub-system (IAD, ORD, DEN and SFO/LAX) will better serve US Airways fliers (and other southern folk/non-eastern corridor) than DL's ATL, DFW SLC hodge-podge. The big question is how soon will UA/US shut down CLT infavor of IAD or vice versa - two hubs so close to each other do not make sense (a la NW in MSP and DTW). Oh, by the way, UA will NOT KEEP THE A330's! TWA, you interested?

No, I am not afraid that UA will take over Delta in the south, as right now in the Southeastern US (excluding MIA) Delta and Northwest are the biggest airlines. Cincinnati is also a fine airport to connect at as well, and I think it is better than Chicago because - Less traffic, easier connections to east coast and southeast from the western part of the country.

Jeff


User currently offlineJtb106 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3146 times:

As the Horse in the old Ren and Stimpy cartoons would say,'No Sir, I don't like it.....". Because I thought USAirways was about to become great on it's own. But this may prove to be better, I don't know. They both may see the writing on the wall and beat an approaching wave of mergers by making the best deal now instead of settling for more undesirable scraps(AWA). But having seen USAirways grow from old Allegheny, I was excited for it's future. Now I don't know what to feel.

User currently offlineDc-9-10 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

We are looking at a 26% share of the passengers that will fly totaly. This is 1/4 the passengers that means Northwest, Southwest,America West, Delta, Twa and
Alaska have to compete for the rest of the 75% leaving 12.5% per carrior (of course some will have more than others).

All I have to say is United will just become anoter Microsoft.


User currently offlineKALB From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 573 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3115 times:

I think the UA/US proposed (and that's all it is at this point, PROPOSED) merger would harm the small to mid-size cities served by USAirways with big jets, markets such as KALB, KGSP, KCHA, KSYR, KROC, etc. I am fearful UA will either pull out of those markets totally or leave them to United Express and the RJs. I think fares will go even higher in these markets, except where Southwest is a player, such as KALB. I'm opposed to the proposed merger.

User currently offlinePH-BZA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3108 times:

Opposed - in my view it is just another hungry company gobbling up a small company before it even has the chance to grow large. And I agree that UA may pull jet service out of smaller places like ROC which depend on US for jet service.

User currently offlineBeechbarron From United States of America, joined May 2000, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

My opinion is that US airlines will soon ALL merge into 2 or 3 HUGE airlines, just like all of the nations financial institutions (Banks) are doing. All of the little startups will unfortunately starve to death. Of course, my opinion could be totally out in left field, but that's what makes America wonderful.

User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3100 times:

Last time I checked, we weren't the Soviet Union...so why have another Aeroflot. Am I exaggerating...maybe, but the 'new' United will have unattainable size and status. The 'new' United will have nearly 1000 aeroplanes! Carry far, FAR more passengers! Only through a new merger like AA and DL could any airline come close to acheiving the size of a UA/US merger.

LH423



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User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3092 times:

I think the merger is a great idea. I love both airlines, but esp. United. United rocks, and this hopefully will boost their buisiness. I want to also be a UAL pilot when I grow up. Go UAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3086 times:

No I don't like it. If this merger does go through, then others will surely follow. Even though United claims it will keep a price lock on tickets for two years, the mergers that do come about because of this monostrosity may not keep their prices. All in all, in the long run (which is all that really matters anyway) prices will be higher, service will suffer, and it will become tougher for the little guy (JetBlue, Airtran) to enter the airline industry. I thought America was based on equality.....if you believe that I'll tell you a joke. If this isn't a monopoly I don't know what is. United is big enough already.

User currently offlineAirliners rule From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

It depends on one thing I hope that if it does happen the US Air express service to my airports isnt cancled now if it gets chnaged over to United Express that would be awsome but I dont want to lose it becasue my airport is struggling as it is. So I hope I odnt lose that I dont fly on it but I just want to see them stay.

User currently offlineLaserjet From New Zealand, joined Apr 2000, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

I think that the merger is a sign of things to come, as there will be more mergers and alliances, creating a smaller number of mega-mega carriers. This merger if it happens, fit into that category.


User currently offlineF4N From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3049 times:

To all: I have difficulty imagining that UAL/US can pull this off...not only will there be regulatory hurdles from the post Microsoft Justice dept., but I think UAL's unions will be strongly opposed to the acquisition, and that is what this is, a straight cash/debt assumption acquisition. No separate entities here.
The real wildcard to all this will be AA's response. They may well make a competing bid, possibly serious, maybe just to make UAL up the ante. The more US costs, the more unpalatable the acquisition will be to UAL's unions.
As an aside to this topic, imagine the problems fleet planners would have integrating an AA/US fleet!!

regards,

F4N


25 Flashmeister : This merger is a spectacular idea. It creates the first comprehensive all-directions network (sorry, guys - no one right now has a comprehensive all-d
26 Post contains links and images Flaps : All this merger talk has conjured up my fond memories of Piedmont Airlines. These memories in turn drove me out to buy a FULL can of Coke and a packag
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