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Northwest 747 Nosegear Collapse At GUM  
User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1980 posts, RR: 23
Posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 19949 times:

GUM 6L/24R closed currently due to a Northwest 747 landing and it's nosegear collapsed. COA/CMI flights diverting to UAM. No injuries reported, but not sure how long it will take to reopen...


"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 19923 times:

LoL. That's the LAST thing NW needs at the moment. I'm not looking forward to Saturday morning. I have a BAD feeling every single NW passenger stuck in HLN will be at my counter. Joy...  headache 

fluffy


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 19801 times:

UAM? Anderson? Just a guess.

Hey Fluffy, consider it job security?


User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1980 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 19793 times:

UAM is Anderson, yes...there's a couple of CO planes there already...

Apparently it was flight 74 from NRT, a 747-200...



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 19781 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Hey Fluffy, consider it job security?

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

I suppose, but considering NW used to own some of GQ, and they are our biggest codeshare partner at the moment. Either way, I'm betting I'm gonna need a drink (or three) come Saturday night.


User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 19724 times:

UA on its arse, NW on its nose............

User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1980 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 19576 times:

N627US is the aircraft involved, new colors...

GUM NOTAM AERODROME CLOSED WIE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineJamake1 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 19524 times:

Here's the latest from the NBC affiliate on Guam...

http://www.kuam.com/news/14742.aspx



United's B747-400. "She's a a cruel lover."
User currently offlineGuamVICE From Guam, joined Jun 2005, 151 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 19350 times:

I ran to the hillside that fronts 24R just to check out the damage...not too bad...but there are lines of police vehicles escorting passengers that arrived at UAM to GUM to clear customs...here's a shot...call me stupid for uploading this given its quality, but I figured what the hell...it's one of those "special" ones hehe...

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/100_1342.jpg

[Edited 2005-08-19 12:22:30]


The two most engaging powers of a photographer are to make new things familiar and to make familiar things new. ~Thacker
User currently offlineMrivera From Guam, joined Aug 2005, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 19244 times:

Here are more pictures from Barrigada Heights... Picture quality isn't that great, but I hope you enjoy it... Thanks...

Here you go:









User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 18760 times:

Let me get this right:

LSG Sky Chefs employee Joel Sablan was on the runway waiting for a Japan Airlines flight to land when he witnessed something he's never seen before.


The nose of the plane is touching the ground, which Faasuamalie confirms is not a normal occurrence.

Gotta love these reporters Big grin



Remember: The Bird Hit You, You Didn't Hit The Bird.....
User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2242 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 18583 times:

So...how will this affect NW's phasing out the DC9's?  Wink

Not to be anal retentive, but it's spelled Andersen (Air Base)...



"On spaceship earth there are no passengers...only crew."
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13078 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 18184 times:

The pix look pretty good - the 1st one especially as off the airport site. This doesn't look good. It seems that the a/c is not in line to the runway, is slightly skewed and leaning to the port side. Besides some nose and nose gear damage, was there other damage? How long do they expect the airport to be closed? How long will it take to fix to fly if possible to do so? How will the mx's proposed strike affect getting this a/c back in the air?

User currently offlineGuamVICE From Guam, joined Jun 2005, 151 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 17711 times:

Quoting BBJII (Reply 10):
The nose of the plane is touching the ground, which Faasuamalie confirms is not a normal occurrence.

You should have heard it said live on Ch.8 news today hehe...

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 12):
Besides some nose and nose gear damage, was there other damage? How long do they expect the airport to be closed? How long will it take to fix to fly if possible to do so?

As far as we know, there is some smoldering in the affected area, nothing else. The airport is no longer closed, all incoming and departing flights are now utilizing 6R, which was recently extended. As far as a time frame for the bird's full recovery, I don't know if I'd want to be in that plane again (Looking at old photographs, I realized based on the registration numbers that I flew in it in 2001 from GUM-NRT). As of late, it had been announced that the aircraft would be removed from the end of the runway by Saturday, Guam time.



The two most engaging powers of a photographer are to make new things familiar and to make familiar things new. ~Thacker
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 17595 times:

Any Offical Cause Reported.
Hard Landing.
Sheared LG Pins.
Collosion Impact.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineJblake1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 17084 times:

As of right now nwa.com is showing flight 74 estimated to depart 12 hours late tomorrow 8/20 due to aircraft change.

User currently offlineF14D4ever From United States of America, joined May 2005, 319 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 16533 times:

Quoting GuamVICE (Reply 8):
I ran to the hillside that fronts 24R just to check out the damage... here's a shot ...



Quoting Mrivera (Reply 9):
Here are more pictures from Barrigada Heights... Picture quality isn't that great, but I hope you enjoy it...

Guys, thanks for hustling out (and up) to get those shots. They're worth a thousand words (each).



"He is risen, as He said."
User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1980 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 15357 times:

Homer71,

You're right that it's Andersen. Somehow in my research, I came across both spellings and trusted the wrong site  Smile

Airport was due to reopen at 1100z and it appears to have according to the reports above, with 6R/24L now in service for the first time since Nov 04...

Jeffrey



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineSRT75 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 15191 times:

In the new livery too... bummer. Hope NW gets this bird back in action soon.

All doors are open. Was evac by chutes, or did they bring stairs out?


User currently offlineNWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 15104 times:

Doors 2, 3, and 4 were used with evac shuts - doors 1 and 5 could not be used because of the noise being down and the tail too high in the air. I'm so glad every one is safe! The one person that is in the hospital was hurt going down the slides.....In evacs- going down the slides is where the majority of injuries will happen. For those that think having the crew in shorts is cute - they will be the 1st ones hurt going down.

Great work FA's!!



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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1980 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14293 times:

Evac was done by chutes supposedly after a smoky smell was sensed in the airplane, probably just the smell resonating after the plane skidded on it's nose for about 2000ft down the runway.

From one of our staff out in GUM who saw the plane up close, he mentioned the crew did a great job in handling the nose gear problem they had.



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineIndio66 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11493 times:

Quoting GuamVICE (Reply 8):
here's a shot...call me stupid for uploading this given its quality

Fantastic picture GuamVice! Way to go.


User currently offlineGuamVICE From Guam, joined Jun 2005, 151 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11363 times:

Guys,

Here's the Saturday morning article from pulled from our local newspaper's online publication with some updates at GUAMPDN.COM.

Thanks for the support Indio...If only the screeners show the same mercy hehehe...

[Edited 2005-08-19 22:58:41]


The two most engaging powers of a photographer are to make new things familiar and to make familiar things new. ~Thacker
User currently offlineUAL747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 580 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11209 times:

Is it my bad eyesight or in the final picture above does it appear that the fuselage has buckled behind the back of the "hump" causing the nose to lay flatter on the ground.

UAL747-600

[Edited 2005-08-19 23:09:53]

User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11127 times:

My compliments GuamVICE. If I were still living at Ladera Towers I would have contributed to the pix also!
Regards



"When all is said and done, more will be said than done".
25 Halophila : Thanks guys, great photos. UAL747-600, I agree that there looks to be some lateral buckling forward of the hump, but its probably some kind of optical
26 AirTranTUS : If the mechanics strike, who will fix it. I know the 747 will not be the biggest of NW's problems but will it sit there till NW mechanics get to it or
27 NWAFA : The 747 are already outsoursed to SIN, HKG and MNL there are two other Asian cities, that forgive me, I can not remember off hand!
28 Post contains images Birdbrainz : Geez, First it's a UA744 doing a "wheelie", and now an NWA 747 taking a bow. Maybe the NW plane was trying to imitate a Rutan Vari-EZ.
29 Post contains images GuamVICE : Actually, it's the glare of the sun and my friend's cell phone camera quality that gives the illusion of damage. Thanks for the compliments, I've nev
30 Post contains images GuamVICE : Guys, I just got back from the hillside. After a good night's rest, it's time for the bird to leave its nest...here you can see cranes positioning the
31 Post contains links AsstChiefMark : I happened to come across this KUAM-TV story regarding this: KUAM Report Mark
32 COSPN : Not to be anal retentive, but it's spelled Andersen (Air Base)... Not to be anal Retentive but UAM is an Air Force base as it is located on US Soil, G
33 Mav75 : Is there anyone else besides me who is awed by how high the tail is sticking up because of the nose gear collapse?
34 GuamVICE : It occurred to me that the tail was sort of high for a nose gear collapse, but I didn't think much of it...I figured the damage to the nose gear was
35 BN747 : Anyone have an idea which ship this is??? Also kudos GuamVice and Mrivera on providing such great shots!!! BN747
36 Freedom4all : Good that no one was hurt, but a really a shame....I hope that old bird dose not get W/O like the DC-9's recently
37 A340Spotter : BN747, Reply 6 above has the reg, N627US... Jeffrey
38 Post contains links KC135TopBoom : "Flight 74's front landing gear collapsed around 2 p.m. after it had slowed and was moving toward its designated gate, Faasuamalie said." http://www.g
39 Post contains images Comorin : The cause of this incident, and the 744 at SFO is obvious - it's the Revenge of the COW. The aforesaid cow was also seen wandering on the runway at To
40 Post contains links and images Bistro1200 : More pics: - - [Edited 2005-08-20 20:03:28]
41 Post contains images Jetjack74 : Here's a picture of ship 6627 at HNL on the 15th of this month. A week ago.
42 Stirling : Reaffirming previous posts...good work, hope they're added to to database purely for their historical context. (Considering a perfect shot is not a g
43 Post contains images HAWK21M : Fantastic Pictures. regds MEL
44 Post contains images COSPN : Yes there Are Several PAX and Freighter -200's Pilot base is ANC only
45 727EMflyer : Come on, this is NW we're talking about here! The champion of the DC-9 and all her contemporaries won't get rid of the classics until they fly 'em in
46 Falcon Flyer : Looks like NW may be taking a -200 out of the desert to replace 6627, NWA915 is scheduled to depart Victorville for Narita at 5PM PDT as a B742. Uncon
47 Post contains images GARPD : Amazing.... No media articles or morning shows questioning the future of the 747 due to this incident. More surprising is the absence of newspaper art
48 SOCAL : THAT IS CRAZY,WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH ALL THESE ACCIDENTS. OH AND VERY GOOD PICTURES............
49 Redtailmsp : Ref reply #46, NWA915 is actually the 747-200 that has been converted to a freighter - fleet number 6732 / reg N632NW. It was converted in Tel Aviv, t
50 Falcon flyer : Redtailmsp: Thanks for that.
51 Post contains images HAWK21M : I was thinking of the same too Any Report/Evidence on the likely cause. regds MEL
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