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DeltaDude8 From United States, joined Feb 2000, 569 posts, RR: 12
Posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3409 times:

Hello everyone. I was just curious about who ordered or who is thinking about the 772LR. Your posts are greatly appreciated.

Thanks

And oh yeah, I'm sorry if this topic has already been discussed

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Glom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2235 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3380 times:

I think it's gotten over 25, but can't remember if the freighter orders need to be counted for that figure.

Â£37 Aberdeen to Birmingham, Â£38 Birmingham to Watford => trains are rubbish!

Trex8 From United States, joined Nov 2002, 2904 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3098 times:

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according to the Boeing website there are only orders for 772LR from PIA(2), EVA (3) and 772F AF(5).

Solnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

Didnt Qatar order 3 or 4 B772LR?

Micke//SE Confused

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Solnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2856 times:

Jet Airways: 6 X 772LR

source: justplanes.com

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9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1518 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2814 times:

Those are not firm orders yet . Qatar , Jet airways and Air India will comfirm the numbers soon.

Airliners is the wings of my life.

Solnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

9V-SVC:

Youre question was "or who is thinking about the 772LR"

Micke//SE Yeah sure

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9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1518 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

Solnabo :

I was replying to your 2 earlier posts. I should have make that clear.

Airliners is the wings of my life.

Bill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 7278 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Well Qantas is thinking.... Long and hard...

If you tune to channel 88.4 you can listen to my thoughts.

GARPD From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Aug 2005, 1129 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

I heard that Emirates are very impressed by the 2LR and are seriously considering an order but are waiting for all of Boeings claims to be quantified before ordering.

I'm not English

WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2570 times:

This question would be better asked around Christmastime.

There are orders out there which haven't been booked yet as they are subject to approval and financing, and the Eva Air one may yet be changed to freighter variants if the rumour machine is true. The Air Canada order might also reappear at some stage subject to AC sorting out the problem with pilot contracts.

PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 3074 posts, RR: 88
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

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Here you go though Trex8 covered some of this with his reply;

Booked firm on Boeing's site;

AF - 5 772F (+3 Options)
EVA - 3 772LR Pax
PIA - 2 772LR Pax

Current oustanding LoI's are as follow's;

AI - 5 772LR (+3 Options), Source AI & Boeing
EVA - 10 772F, Source EVA
JET - 6 772LR, Source Jet Airways
QR - Have commited and expect to sign in September though no number known as it's part of an order for "at least" 20 772LR, 772LRF & 773ER

So currently there are 10 firm orders and 21 specified in LoI's excluding QR

Regards, PanAm_DC10

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Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15040 posts, RR: 65
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2463 times:

The recent cancelled order for 18 777's by AC included 2 772LRF's and an unspecified number of pax 772LR's (up to 13). It seems to be accepted that this order will proceed again in due course, but who knows?

Glom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2235 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

So who is on the likely list?

Loads say an EK order is inevitable. Everyone is talking about QF. Wasn't there talk of SQ? And we're all waiting for AC to solve the labour dispute.

Â£37 Aberdeen to Birmingham, Â£38 Birmingham to Watford => trains are rubbish!

PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 3074 posts, RR: 88
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

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Quoting Glom (Reply 13):
So who is on the likely list?

Loads say an EK order is inevitable. Everyone is talking about QF. Wasn't there talk of SQ? And we're all waiting for AC to solve the labour dispute.

EK have been quite positive on the 772LR when they have spoken publicly of it so we should expect to see an order at the Dubai Airshow.

EY have expressed an interest in the 772F and it wouldn't surprise me if we saw an order from them.

CV we can rule out at the moment as they've gone with the 747AdvF if it's launched this year. If not, they may reconsider the 772F as the 747Adv deal is contingent upon completion by year end.

SQ and QF both have outstanding RFP's which we should know by year end though I feel QF will only option the model if they go with Boeing.

Even though AirNZ are about to receive their first 772ER I feel we may see an order in the next year or two from them for the 772LR. Just my opinion though.

Regards, PanAm_DC10

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Deltadude8 From United States, joined Feb 2000, 569 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Note to DeltaDude8- I don't know who you are- but please stop using my screenname so I am not forced to change my password- how stupid...get your own screen name bud...Yeah I know my password wasn't hard- but its not supposed to be...

Sorry to all members of this discussion- This post was not actually written by the real user of the name "deltadude8" Mike Paradise but by a phony and a cheat.

(yes i know this isn't a harsh topic but still...invasion of privacy kind of ticks me off)

PHXinterrupted From United States, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Quoting Deltadude8 (Reply 15):
Note to DeltaDude8- I don't know who you are- but please stop using my screenname so I am not forced to change my password- how stupid...get your own screen name bud...Yeah I know my password wasn't hard- but its not supposed to be...

Sorry to all members of this discussion- This post was not actually written by the real user of the name "deltadude8" Mike Paradise but by a phony and a cheat.

(yes i know this isn't a harsh topic but still...invasion of privacy kind of ticks me off)

Then change your password!

Keepin' it real.

S12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 16):
Then change your password!

Oh...yeah....I knew I should have thought of that....

Signed,
Deltadude8

WhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 14):

Even though AirNZ are about to receive their first 772ER I feel we may see an order in the next year or two from them for the 772LR. Just my opinion though.

Possibly, but NZ ordering the Trent engine on their other aircraft might be an indicator that they will not go with the 772LR and GE engine. One would have thought that they would have bought GE powered aircraft to cut down on training and common spares.

For a larger carrier this might not be so much of an issue but NZ does not have a large fleet.

Tockeyhockey From United States, joined Feb 2005, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1114 times:

anyone have a guess what the breakeven point for this program is? probably something relatively low, like 60-80 frames?

QFA001 From Australia, joined May 2000, 673 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 914 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 11):
QR - Have commited and expect to sign in September though no number known as it's part of an order for "at least" 20 772LR, 772LRF & 773ER

FWIW, QR said that of the 20 B777s, "at least 10" would be -300ERs and the remainder would be broken down -200F/200LRs. So, we could probably pencil QR in for something like 6 -200LRs and 4 -200Fs.

airplane

QFA001

Brutie From New Zealand, joined Sep 2003, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 839 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 18):
Possibly, but NZ ordering the Trent engine on their other aircraft might be an indicator that they will not go with the 772LR and GE engine. One would have thought that they would have bought GE powered aircraft to cut down on training and common spares.

Whitehatter,

On the face of it what you're saying makes perfect sense, however NZ have virtually committed themselves to ordering the 773ER, also exclusively GE-powered, eventually as a replacement for their 744s. The RR choice seems to have been some combination of a fantastic deal offered by RR and the opportunity gain experience for the engineering division.

GARPD From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Aug 2005, 1129 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 800 times:

Quoting Brutie (Reply 21):

On the face of it what you're saying makes perfect sense, however NZ have virtually committed themselves to ordering the 773ER, also exclusively GE-powered, eventually as a replacement for their 744s. The RR choice seems to have been some combination of a fantastic deal offered by RR and the opportunity gain experience for the engineering division.

That striks me as perfectly possible.

Look at LH for example. They operate aircraft with a various engine types from all the manufacturers. This is so that Lufthansa Technik gets good experience and know how in maintaining engines from all manufactuers, makes and models. This increases their customer base considerably.

Very clever

I'm not English

SunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 2216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 692 times:

I believe NZ will not be overhauling these big engines. They decided against building a new test cell that could accomodate them. Perhaps they have the Trents on a power by the hour lease with RR. Of course they could do the same with GE.
I would imagine that ANZES provides maintenance to all foreign carriers that fly into AKL. Thus they would have the capability to service any of the modern engines.

HZ747300 From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Mar 2004, 1442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 619 times:

Quoting GARPD (Reply 9):
I heard that Emirates are very impressed by the 2LR and are seriously considering an order but are waiting for all of Boeings claims to be quantified before ordering.

Did they order the A380 without waiting because it would not have been launched otherwise?

Keep on truckin'...

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