CV990A From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2453 times:
I strongly doubt it, after their experience with the A310 I think they're strongly comitted to buying Boeing planes only in the future. Plus, weren't they one of the airlines that had the Boeing-Only contract that the EU fought over when Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas?
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8530 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2394 times:
I must admit that I've been seriously spoiled. Almost every time I've flown between HSV and ATL it's been on MD-88s. Only twice did I have to fly on 737s, once a 737-200 that creaked and moaned as it turned corners on the tarmac, scaring me out of my mind, and once on rainy Sunday night, a 737-300 (although my ticket said it was supposed to be an MD-88). I wish Delta had bought into the A320 family. It sure would be a lot more comfortable than those damn 17 in. wide cramped 737 seats. I was willing, back when Delta flew 727-200s out of HSV, to endure that, but I refuse to fly on their 737-800s.
Sabenapilot From Belgium, joined Feb 2000, 2748 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2387 times:
Sadly it isn't true.
Delta keeps buying Boeing.
This means that even after their fleet renewal they will fly with planes from yesterday rather then from today...
BTW: Delta must about have the oldest fleet in the Western World, certainly compared to the averadge age of European carriers. If I'm correct the backbone of the fleet still is the B727 and B737(-200); 2 types of planes that aren't used in Europe anymore (except by cargo or cheap charter operators).
Continental717 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2364 times:
So Delta jumps in front of a ******* Truck. They need to learn not to be so snobby And maybe Airbus would serve them. They get all huffy puffy just because Airtran wants to come in ATL. What is Airtran gonna do to them. Geez., Airtran foes mot eun glights iut if STL ro utaly. Selta Meeds ro kearn rhat s kittle dervice drom s fifferent sirline eill mot jurt rhem.
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Euroschu From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2287 times:
You are sadly misinformed. Delta will actually have one of the youngest fleets, once all of their Boeing orders are delivered. The 727's, MD-90's, L1011's are already scheduled to be replaced in the next few years.
777YYC From Canada, joined May 2000, 744 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2260 times:
Why would an airline with tons of 737NGs and 777s on order suddenly switch to A320s and A340s? Aren't airlines concerned with fleet comonnality these days?
Sabena Pilot: Delta has one of the younger fleets by US standards. They are retireing their 727s and L1011s.
If you want to pick on someone about having an old fleet, pick on Northwest!
TWAneedsHELP From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2215 times:
"Delta raped Pan Am"? I was young 9 years ago and not really a big aviation buff so I missed that one, but I'm curious after Pan Am's death, what did Delta do that could be qualified as being refered to as a "rape?"
CstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2204 times:
I don't think PanAm was raped---you can't rape a willing but dying soul! It was pretty much the end of PanAM by then. In my opinion, PanAm was done after selling their PAC routes to UA. A move that Donald Carty very much regretted because he didn't bid for it (Stephen Wolf outfoxed his mentor).
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4573 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2191 times:
Delta must have liked the ex Pan Am A310s in the first place, they had a repeat order for some more A310s some time after they bought part of Pan Am in 1991. So they actually have ordered some Airbuses of their own. But soon afterwards, they decided to ditch them for more 767s. Does anyone know the story behind it?
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Fleet Service From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 623 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2138 times:
Pan Am was raped trust me.I was there.I still have the letter that put me and 24,000 others out of work on Dec 04 1991.
How did Delta rape Pan Am?
In 1991 Pan Am was seriously hurting (We never got back on track after 103) The Gulf War, (CRAF killed us)
Sky High Fuel prices, Public perception was in the crapper.A myriad of ills, to put it mildly.
Anyway, Delta says Okay, we'll invest XX number of millions of dollars in this "Streamlined" version of Pan Am.
In exchange, we will take the following:
1.North Atlantic Routes
3.JFK Facilities (Not all, just WorldPort and Cargo Bldg)
4.The Pan Am Shuttle @ LGA
After all of that was "taken" by Delta, they turn around and say "Well, after careful review, we feel Pan Am is no longer a viable entity, and we are not going to invest any more into it."So, they hold back a key payment to Pan Am, and Pan Am bleeds out.
Yeah, DL hired Pan Am'ers, ask any flight attendant who sat on reserve in ATL for seven or eight years!
Or anyone who uprooted their life to start over in ATL.
This subject will get you a thousand responses
depending on who you ask.
Yes, I actually *do* work for an airline,how about you?
Boeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 970 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2142 times:
Delta has been and will remain a world class airline. The idea that they are going to purchase any Scairbus equipment is complete rubbish, the management team knows better than that. Boeing has always and will for the future build the greatest aircraft in the world and what better combination can you have than Delta and Boeing. I was a little concerned back in the early 90's when the A310s were introduced to the fleet, but through some smart moves they were history fairly soon. I don't believe that we will ever see another Scairbus plane in the colors of Delta Airlines, and I am glad about that.
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2143 times:
Delta is far from being a world-class airline. It is a trunk operator at best,
with lousy airplanes, indifferent service, and why the hell would anyone
want to change planes in Atlanta??? Their only convenient hub is Cincy.
Delta flies many old, dirty airplanes and alienated a lot of their customers
in the mid-1990's with it's $2.billion cost cutting program. Have you flown
on the Delta Shuttle lately? Yuck.
: Delta did not order additional A310 aircraft after the initial A310-200/300's that came with Pan Am. Fleet Service, where were you based? JFK? I am a
: I have flown Delta for the last 16 years and cannot recollect any problems I had with the airline (something I can't say about TWA, Lufthansa and AA).
: Nice commentary on Delta. That's probably why they have the most extensive network in Europe, are considerably larger than CO and will probably own th
: If I am not mistaken, didn't Delta and Continental sign an exclusivity agreement with Boeing last year in order to receive very favorable pricing? I s
: Airlines are ruthless.... if you do not/have not worked for one, you would not know. if you are an enthusiast you have this tainted image thinking onl
: yes they signed exclusive buying from Boeing. CO, DL, and AA Peace
31 Fleet Service
: Hey Velocity, as a rule the Coast Guard doesn't strip valuables off the unfortunates they fish out of the drink.
: I don't see how you could call DL a trunk operator at best,they have very good coverage ,much better than CO.I don't think trunk operators fly to svo,