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Delta Orders A320's  
User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Posted (14 years 5 months ago) and read 2301 times:

Is it true that Delta is ordering the Airbus A320/A321 and the A340?

32 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5301 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (14 years 5 months ago) and read 2048 times:

It is most definetly NOT true!  

Jeremiah Teahan



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineAB.400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1981 times:

Where did you hear that ? It is new to me but sounds interesting.

User currently offlineCV990A From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

I strongly doubt it, after their experience with the A310 I think they're strongly comitted to buying Boeing planes only in the future. Plus, weren't they one of the airlines that had the Boeing-Only contract that the EU fought over when Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas?


Kittens Give Morbo Gas
User currently offlineSea_Tac2000 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

No, Delta is all Boeing and looks like it will stay that way...it has big orders/options on the 737-800, 767-300/400, and 777s...etc



User currently offlineCALPilot From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 999 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

I'll say it too. Where do you come up with this?

User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

Delta will be all Boeing in the next few years. Smart move.  

User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

I must admit that I've been seriously spoiled. Almost every time I've flown between HSV and ATL it's been on MD-88s. Only twice did I have to fly on 737s, once a 737-200 that creaked and moaned as it turned corners on the tarmac, scaring me out of my mind, and once on rainy Sunday night, a 737-300 (although my ticket said it was supposed to be an MD-88). I wish Delta had bought into the A320 family. It sure would be a lot more comfortable than those damn 17 in. wide cramped 737 seats. I was willing, back when Delta flew 727-200s out of HSV, to endure that, but I refuse to fly on their 737-800s.

User currently offlineSabenapilot From Belgium, joined Feb 2000, 2714 posts, RR: 47
Reply 8, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

Sadly it isn't true.
Delta keeps buying Boeing.
This means that even after their fleet renewal they will fly with planes from yesterday rather then from today...
BTW: Delta must about have the oldest fleet in the Western World, certainly compared to the averadge age of European carriers. If I'm correct the backbone of the fleet still is the B727 and B737(-200); 2 types of planes that aren't used in Europe anymore (except by cargo or cheap charter operators).


User currently offlineDeltaMan From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1848 times:

What happend to the Delta A310s? Did they cause a prolbem or something?? What's the story?

User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3128 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

I think ContinentalEWR had nothing to write about. Why would Delta buy the A320 when they have OVER 100!!!! 737-800s on order? and why would they buy the A340 if they have the MD-11 and 777???????

ContinentalEWR, think before you write next time!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
User currently offlineContinental717 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

So Delta jumps in front of a ******* Truck. They need to learn not to be so snobby And maybe Airbus would serve them. They get all huffy puffy just because Airtran wants to come in ATL. What is Airtran gonna do to them. Geez., Airtran foes mot eun glights iut if STL ro utaly. Selta Meeds ro kearn rhat s kittle dervice drom s fifferent sirline eill mot jurt rhem.

dorry gor rhe nixed ketters O sm kust naking rhis s vhallenge


User currently offlineAB.400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

There is an article in KFWS-newspaper that says indeed that Delta is in talks with Airbus about an upcoming order for at least 80 A320 family AC´s. But no word about Airbus widebodies so far.

User currently offlineB767-400er From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2000, 290 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

Are you smoking something while you're typing, I surely does not understand one word after the second sentence!

Tony, B767-400er


User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

This is what Continental717 had on his mind after the second sentance:

What is AirTran gonna do to them? Geez, AirTran does not run flights out of ATL to Italy! Delta needs to learn that a little service from a different airline will not hurt them.

That took me less than a minute to figure out what he was trying to say! I thought AirTran already serves ATL, though.


User currently offlineEuroschu From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

You are sadly misinformed. Delta will actually have one of the youngest fleets, once all of their Boeing orders are delivered. The 727's, MD-90's, L1011's are already scheduled to be replaced in the next few years.



User currently offline777YYC From Canada, joined May 2000, 744 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Why would an airline with tons of 737NGs and 777s on order suddenly switch to A320s and A340s? Aren't airlines concerned with fleet comonnality these days?
Sabena Pilot: Delta has one of the younger fleets by US standards. They are retireing their 727s and L1011s.
If you want to pick on someone about having an old fleet, pick on Northwest!


User currently offlineFleet Service From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 623 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

Deltaman, DL took a bunch of 310's off of Pan Am when they raped them back in '91.They weren't in the fleet long.Less than 18 months, if that.


Yes, I actually *do* work for an airline,how about you?
User currently offlineTWAneedsHELP From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1689 times:

"Delta raped Pan Am"? I was young 9 years ago and not really a big aviation buff so I missed that one, but I'm curious after Pan Am's death, what did Delta do that could be qualified as being refered to as a "rape?"

User currently offlineCstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1678 times:

I don't think PanAm was raped---you can't rape a willing but dying soul! It was pretty much the end of PanAM by then. In my opinion, PanAm was done after selling their PAC routes to UA. A move that Donald Carty very much regretted because he didn't bid for it (Stephen Wolf outfoxed his mentor).

User currently offlineFBWless From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

PA's A310's were not in a good shape when DL got them. It would be strange if DL blamed Airbus for PA's bad maintenance of its aircraft.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4337 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

Delta must have liked the ex Pan Am A310s in the first place, they had a repeat order for some more A310s some time after they bought part of Pan Am in 1991. So they actually have ordered some Airbuses of their own. But soon afterwards, they decided to ditch them for more 767s. Does anyone know the story behind it?


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineFleet Service From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 623 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

Pan Am was raped trust me.I was there.I still have the letter that put me and 24,000 others out of work on Dec 04 1991.
How did Delta rape Pan Am?
In 1991 Pan Am was seriously hurting (We never got back on track after 103) The Gulf War, (CRAF killed us)
Sky High Fuel prices, Public perception was in the crapper.A myriad of ills, to put it mildly.
Anyway, Delta says Okay, we'll invest XX number of millions of dollars in this "Streamlined" version of Pan Am.
In exchange, we will take the following:
1.North Atlantic Routes
2.FRA hub
3.JFK Facilities (Not all, just WorldPort and Cargo Bldg)
4.The Pan Am Shuttle @ LGA
5.The A310's

After all of that was "taken" by Delta, they turn around and say "Well, after careful review, we feel Pan Am is no longer a viable entity, and we are not going to invest any more into it."So, they hold back a key payment to Pan Am, and Pan Am bleeds out.
Yeah, DL hired Pan Am'ers, ask any flight attendant who sat on reserve in ATL for seven or eight years!
Or anyone who uprooted their life to start over in ATL.
This subject will get you a thousand responses
depending on who you ask.






Yes, I actually *do* work for an airline,how about you?
User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

Delta has been and will remain a world class airline. The idea that they are going to purchase any Scairbus equipment is complete rubbish, the management team knows better than that. Boeing has always and will for the future build the greatest aircraft in the world and what better combination can you have than Delta and Boeing. I was a little concerned back in the early 90's when the A310s were introduced to the fleet, but through some smart moves they were history fairly soon. I don't believe that we will ever see another Scairbus plane in the colors of Delta Airlines, and I am glad about that.
My opinion

Boeing727


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (14 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Delta is far from being a world-class airline. It is a trunk operator at best,
with lousy airplanes, indifferent service, and why the hell would anyone
want to change planes in Atlanta??? Their only convenient hub is Cincy.
Delta flies many old, dirty airplanes and alienated a lot of their customers
in the mid-1990's with it's $2.billion cost cutting program. Have you flown
on the Delta Shuttle lately? Yuck.





25 Acvitale : Delta did not order additional A310 aircraft after the initial A310-200/300's that came with Pan Am. Fleet Service, where were you based? JFK? I am a
26 Boeing727 : I have flown Delta for the last 16 years and cannot recollect any problems I had with the airline (something I can't say about TWA, Lufthansa and AA).
27 Euroschu : Nice commentary on Delta. That's probably why they have the most extensive network in Europe, are considerably larger than CO and will probably own th
28 Euroschu : If I am not mistaken, didn't Delta and Continental sign an exclusivity agreement with Boeing last year in order to receive very favorable pricing? I s
29 Velocityair : Airlines are ruthless.... if you do not/have not worked for one, you would not know. if you are an enthusiast you have this tainted image thinking onl
30 Velocityair : yes they signed exclusive buying from Boeing. CO, DL, and AA Peace
31 Fleet Service : Hey Velocity, as a rule the Coast Guard doesn't strip valuables off the unfortunates they fish out of the drink.
32 Etops767 : I don't see how you could call DL a trunk operator at best,they have very good coverage ,much better than CO.I don't think trunk operators fly to svo,
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