Trb10 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11386 times:
I was reading Flybe's inflight magazine and it categorically says "The only alcohol, snacks and beverages allowed to be consumed onboard are those served by our cabin crew" Since when???? Has anyone been on one of their flights and told not to eat or drink their own food?? Can they do this?
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11266 times:
Well, if true that's one more airline I will never fly. I will fly an airline to get from a to b. Not for the food. I will not be told what I can eat or drink on board. For alcohol i can imagine a ban, but if i want a drink of water, i refuse to be forced to buy overexpensive water on board.
Philb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11145 times:
Flew FlyBe BHX-SNN on June 19 on what was the hottest and stormiest day of the year. I had a half finished small plastic bottle of Coke which I'd bought whilst waiting for the flight which I carried on in my hand. My wife had another full bottle in her hand baggage.
I finished my Coke before we left the gate, we shared the other in flight in full view of the crew without anything being said or any dirty looks.
As an aircraft is a means of transportation and not a flying cafe or restaurant, they have little going for them in trying to impose a restriction. Food is sold on trains and long distance buses but the operators don't restrict the consumption of carry on food so FlyBe have no precedent in practice and, I'm pretty sure, in law to rely on.
What they have a right to do is to prohibit ALL consumption of food and beverages - but that would work against them.
They can also restrict the use of alcohol, glass bottles, glass containers and anything else which would infringe any safety and security rules.
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10959 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 9): Seems fair to me.
Would you take a Fish supper that you got from a chippy into a posh restaurant?
Mmm IMO, there is an important difference. In a restaurant, their primary business is to sell you food and drinks. The primary business for FlyBE or any other airline is to offer you transportation from A to B. Offering food and drinks on board is a service and a source of income, but not the primary one. (or at least, it should not be).
When comparing with a restaurant, it would be like when you go to a restaurant with children and you need an extra pillow for the seats, that you could not use your own but only one you buy at the restaurant.
Sincil From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10958 times:
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4): If I were to fly BE and desired to consume my own refreshments onboard, I would take them aboard and try my luck - although discreetly.
I flew LPL-GLA recently on flyBE and had no problem bringing a bottle of coke with me and some chocolate and eating on the plane. Many other people bought bottles of water/pop with them. The FA's didn't say a word.
I did notice the statement in the inflight magazine, but as Pe@rson says, if you are discreet, I doubt you will get bothered.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10933 times:
That's a completely non-sense.... typical from old fashioned type of flying that has nothing to do to our days travelling. I think FlyBE should LEARN with America West..... those guys are far ahead in that type of busniess than FlyBE. In November 2003 I flew America West from FAT to YYZ via PHX and they EVEN invited us to buy anything we wanted and consume in their planes! I think that's what I call the right way to do business...... they'll come buy and ask if we wanted some more soda's. In the end they took the box were I had my pizza and I thank them for beeing kind!
Now you can ask me, should I fly with them again in the future? Yes, certainly I will, that's the type of airline I like in short to medium haul business!!!
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10829 times:
Perhaps passengers would be less likely to take their own food on-board if the LCCs offered something dcent to purchase. A limited supply of half frozen sandwichs and watery cup-a-soups, no wonder they take their own!
RichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 803 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10810 times:
Quoting Kappel (Reply 3): Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Would you expect to go into any other establishment that sells food and get your own out? Of course not, this is a fuss over nothing.
Well it is different because people:
Go to a restaurant to purchase a meal that the restaurant provide. Thus making it inappropriate to take your own food.
However, people don't book a flight to purchase food, they book a flight to get to their destination. Thus, banning people from bringing their own food and drink onboard is ridiculous in my opinion. Especially on an airline that claims to be a "Low cost" airline.
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10734 times:
When they are very strict in this, I would imagine they would include it in their terms & conditions of carriage. However, nothing is mentioned here ( http://www3.flybe.com/terms )
It clearly states it is forbidden to bring your own alcohol on board (articles 11 and 17), in the sense that it endangers safety:
If, in our reasonable opinion, you conduct yourself aboard the aircraft so as to endanger the aircraft or any person or property on board, or obstruct the crew in the performance of their duties, or fail to comply with any instructions of the crew including but not limited to those with respect to smoking, alcohol or drug consumption, or behave in a manner which causes discomfort, inconvenience, damage or injury to other passengers or the crew, we may take such measures as we deem reasonably necessary to prevent continuation of such conduct, including restraint.
And however it states that it is not a limited list, I don't see any reason to ban food here.
Well, okay, if you are burping after finishing your coke or not closing your mouth when eating, it may cause inconvenience to other passengers.
You may be disembarked and refused onward carriage at any point, and may be prosecuted for offences committed on board the aircraft.
I don't think anyone has ever been denied boarding just for burping yet?
Malaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10606 times:
Quoting Eaglekeeper101 (Reply 1): I've never been told, or read of any such thing on any airline I've ever travelled on.
I got some looks when I smuggled on some Southwest Snack Packs
onto an AK flight. they also have a similiar policy, but no one really
cares, but a lot of people were looking at me (pax) as if they
really thought they had handed me these haha
There Are Those Who Believe That There May Yet Be Other Airlines Who Even Now Fight To Survive Beyond The Heavens
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10564 times:
Quoting Trident2e (Reply 2): Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Would you expect to go into any other establishment that sells food and get your own out? Of course not, this is a fuss over nothing.
Not reasonable at all... The airline's primary business is not selling food and when they only sell junk its unreasonable for them to expect everyone to either buy that junk or go without - remember FlyBe do have some longer than one hour sectors.
What would you say to a restaurant that said "only customers arriving in taxis provided by us will be allowed into the restaurant"? Indeed!
Skidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 54
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10563 times:
I think they will have great difficulty enforcing this. The only way they will know if you have food to consume on board will be when you open it up in flight.
And then what? Is the F/A going to tell the Captain to land immediately and evict you? Or maybe force you to hand over your food and drink? I think not.
When I went to AMS recently, with Easyjet, I took a Boots sarnie and pasta along with a litre of water. No-one there told me not to eat it. Lets face it, regular travellers are not going to buy food at the rates Flybe and others expect you to pay.
If airlines are going to cut back on services they have to expect customers to provide their own victuals. Demanding they buy from the on-board trolley is total bollocks.
Andy , working for a full service airline
Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
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: That should read.... Andy , soon retiring from BA Shitty Express
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: Why thank you [Edited 2005-08-21 18:26:01]
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