Mainliner From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 382 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5326 times:
It's sad to see such a beautiful airplane being removed from airline fleets. I think ATA is keeping a few around for military charters and occasional peak season Hawaii flights, but don't count on seeing any flying for Delta again.
COAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5242 times:
I know delta is in financial trouble i was questioning if they would fly it once they get money if that happens. well i guess you're correct delta won't fly it.
I only heard of one being scrapped for the show lost(why dident they use a plane that had already been crashed did they really need a whole L1011?) couuldent they use an old 727 or some cargo plane out there? what others have been scrapped? i know 728 was donated to the flying hospatal but thats all.
If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
Gt1 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 133 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5213 times:
Among others, I think 724 has been scrapped. I can't say that bothers me as I spent a fair amount of time in the center tank, and never felt I actually fixed the leaks. I also spent a frustrating evening trying to change #2 engine, where a -22B had come off, and a -524 was to be installed. It wouldn't fit until we changed the "S" duct adapter.
On the other hand, the L10 was an airplane ahead of it's time. It was beautiful and cool, and it's too bad they are going away. I would have liked to have flown as an FE on one. Oh well, life is short.
Delta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 12 Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5170 times:
I have flown on the L-1011 8 times. Below is a summary of all my L-1011 flights and a very special tribute to the L-1011's last flight, and everyone that made it possibly.
Delta Air Lines
No report due to me being slight over 1 year old at the time, however my parents said that I slept the whole flight . This was my first flight ever!
Delta Air Lines
At last after waiting 12 years to get on another L-1011 (or one that I can remember) I was very excited. Out Delta Air Lines Boeing 767-300 flight arrived into LAX right on-time and I usually love having layovers, but this one I wanted to go by fast so I could get on the L-1011. As I boarded the aircraft I was taken by storm by the huge spacious cabin of the L-1011. I finally made my way near the rear of the aircraft where the seating goes to 2-4-2 due to the curve of the tail. I had flown on 767's before, but nothing compared to this great aircraft. As we taxied at LAX we passed by several Delta heavies, a bunch of AA aircraft as well as UAL, some Int'l traffic and a TWA L-1011 We took off westbound and observed a nice view of the Los Angeles skyline as we climbed over the Pacific Ocean. Our In-Flight movie was "Volcano", I thought it was kind or ironic with Volcano being filmed in L.A. (Where we took off from), and our destination being Hawaii which still has 1 active volcano on the big island. The In-Flight meal was very tasty, however I am unable to remember exacly what it was. After lunch and the movie was over I watched the flight tracker and tuned into the radio to see what was going on. It was a very enjoyable flight for me, one that I will never forget. This L-1011 had pink paneling w/ small designs on it that made it look very nice!
Delta Air Lines
As many of you know, this flight is about 25 minutes long. I was seated near the rear of the aircraft as we took off from OGG. It was a very enjoyable flight and the scenery was awesome! This particular L-1011 was the cleanest and newest L-1011 I have ever been on!
Delta Air Lines
My longest flight to date. We were seated about 3/4 of the way through the cabin as we took off around 4:10 PM HNL time and were scheduled to arrive ATL at 6:30ish AM. The weather was perfect under HNL sun as we took off. We passed just north of Molakia(sp) and Lanai as we approached 36,000 ft. I remember looking outside my window and watching the sun get smaller and smaller, it was a very beautiful sight! The F/A's came around and served dinner, which consisted of lasagna, a salad, and a couple pieces of desert cake. I am unable to remember the In-Flight movie, but I tuned in to Delta radio and listened for awhile. About midway through the flight I took a trip to the lavatory, then talked to the flight attendants for about an hour. They were very nice to me and was impressed at my aviation knowledge as such a young age (12). We started our descent over Birmingham, Alabama as I could see some lightning from the clouds we were coming through. As we got closer to Atlanta the skies became clear and we landed in the darkness around 6:25 AM. This aircraft was unique inside due it having a dark grey and red paneling, I have never been on a Delta L-1011 that has been like this.
Delta Air Lines
I was seated near the middle of the aircraft as my vacation was coming to an end, but what better way to end it than on an L-1011. This flight went by very quick but still enjoyable. This aircraft had wood paneling in First Class, however in coach it had white paneling inside.
Delta Air Lines
We were seated in row 13 as our flight was delayed about 1 hour due to mechanical problems (My only L-1011 delay). We took off from MCO at about 9:30 PM and arrived in ATL at about 10:45 AM. This flight was very enjoyable, I had not been home to Atlanta in and a year and a half. Weather was perfect as we touched down into the worlds best city. This aircraft was an older model having a dark blue interior w/ a checkerboard design, however it was still nice!
Delta Air Lines
This was a very enjoyable L-1011 flight. Sadly, I thought this was going to be my last L-1011 flight. We took off from MCO at about 10:05 AM and arrived in ATL about 11:25 AM under perfect skies. After the flight I took several photos of the interior and had a blast! This aircraft had blue paneling that made it look very nice inside!
Delta Air Lines
This week was the best week in my life. Earlier in the week I had gotten up at about 3:00 AM to drive to FLL to catch a BahamasAir flight to Nassau to attend my fathers wedding. On July 30th, I returned to FLL on BahamasAir and waited for my grandma and my aunt to arrive FLL around 11:30 PM. My BahamasAir flight got into FLL about 5:00 PM so I did some spotting and called ILUV767 on my cell phone as he was in Daytona Beach attending an ERAU summer program (Maybee ScottysAir was lurking around somewhere at FLL) Their will be a trip report coming soon about the Bahamas trip. My affiliates finally got in around 11:30 PM so we left FLL shortly after that and with the speed of my Camaro we got back into Highlands County at 1:45 AM. I did a few things around the house, then talked to former airliners.net user scannerson as I borrowed a cam-quarter from him. I slept for about 1 hour, then got up at 3:30 AM, showered and got dressed. It took me about 1 hour to get to MCO. What a week and it wasn't over yet.
On this day I was flying to ATL for the retirement party of Delta's last L-1011. This flight was the 3rd to last L-1011 flight that Delta had. Fl# 1949 was the final L-1011 flight later that day from MCO-ATL. I met former airliners.net user Tom Schepekowski from New Jersey at the gate and chatted with him for about 30 minutes before I boarded my final L-1011 flight. The weather was extremely poor in Orlando as it was drizzling rain, fog, and low ceiling. I had checked the weather channel at MCO and it indicated a cold front was moving across Southern Georgia and into Florida. I was seated in a bulkhead window seat beside a very nice guy of Indian descent. We chatted about the L-1011, flying, India, and a lot of other things. I have found Indian/Hindu people to be my favorite ethnic group of people. We talked to the F/A who was seated facing us about the L-1011 and other stuff. As we cruised over Southern Georgia, the dark clouds below us ended and blue clear skies emerged At this moment I felt like I was the closest to heaven I could get without actually being their. We had an excellent view of the Atlanta skyline as we touched down around 8:30 AM. After the flight I shook Rahim's hand and told him it was nice flying w/ him and he said the same to me. I waited until the whole aircraft had deplaned and I found one of the flight attendants and ask if I could snap some photos of the cockpit, and the cabin of the aircraft. She smiled and thought it was great as she took me up to the cockpit. As I was seated in the Captains chair one of the Captains indicated that their was a problem with the aircraft and would be delayed on the flight back to MCO. The joke going around ATL among the aviation enthusiasts after that was I jammed the aircraft systems to make sure I was the last person ever on a Delta L-1011 I hung out in the cockpit for about 15 more minutes, then started talking to the same F/A and another L-1011 Captain and both of them suggested I come to the lower galley to see what it is like! I was shocked, as I stepped into the narrow elevator and I shot down into the lower galley. It was quite a site! It made me love this aircraft ever more. As we went back up into the main cabin I noticed a young teenager in the cockpit, I reconized his face, it was Hank Nix (Delta777-XXX) I identified myself and shook his hand as we talked for awhile. I stepped off the aircraft and told him that I would catch up with him later. I stepped off the aircraft and met Flyer732, rm-11, and a Delta F/A named Perry. 1 week before all this happened, I had made a list in the Civil Aviation Forum about a gathering and coordinated it with a few members. We met several other enthusiasts around the gate area also. For the next few hours we did some spotting and hung out around ATL. After the delay of N728DA, The aircraft was fixed and a Delta Representative escorted Flyer732, rm-11, Perry and I back into the aircraft to take some photos and sign the aircraft. Special Thanks to Chuck from Delta Air Lines for taking us into the aircraft. We took some more photos, and signed the aircraft inside, and met R. Winston Whitlock, I would also like to thank him for all his help! We went back to the terminal so passengers could board to go to MCO. We hung around some more around ATL, then about 10 minutes before Fl# 1949 landed, we got into position beside gate T1 at The William B. Hartsfield Atlanta Int'l Airport to film and take photos of the final landing. Before landing we met (B747-437B) Sean Mendis and talked to him for awhile as Delta L-1011 ship #738 taxiied, then took off for Victorville. Finally, N728DA made its last passenger landing in ATL. Everybody snapped pics and I recorded the landing. As the aircraft got the water cannon salute and docked at the gate, we were escorted into the aircraft by Delta employees and the place was a zoo!!!!!! We met up with Dazed767 (Justin Cederholm), I met back up w/ Tom, and I also met DeltaSFO (Pat Burns) aboard the aircraft. I signed the aircraft many more times and took a ton of safety cards in the aft cabin! Sadly, we all had to leave the aircraft, so we deplaned. My last time inside an L-1011
We left the gate area and hung around until the aircraft pushed back to the Delta Air Lines Technical Operations Center for the party later that night. We had dinner at McDonalds, then headed to the Delta TOC. Our ID's were checked, and we were issued passes to the aircraft. Their was tons of people their signing the aircraft, and taking photos. I was lucky enough to get lifted into the #1 engine of the aircraft and have some photos made! It was quite an experience. The flying hospital L-1011 was also their. We must of signed the aircraft over 30 times as we were wanting our mark to be left. Sadly, Dazed767 and I had to catch our flight back to MCO
The L-1011 is a very special aircraft to me and many others. The size, layout, comfort, and technology is what attracted me to the aircraft. I will always miss the L-1011
Special thanks to the following that made this special day possible:
Delta Air Lines
Lockheed Martin Aircraft
The William B. Hartsfield Atlanta Int'l Airport
Orlando Int'l Airport
Also special thanks to the following members that I got to meet. It was a pleasure meeting all of you and hopefully we will meet again!
R. Winston Whitlock
Flyer732 (Ryan Gaddis)
rm-11 (Riz Maher) Also special Thanks to Riz for letting me ride with him.
Dazed767 (Justin Cederholm)
DeltaSFO (Pat Burns)
B747-437B (Sean Mendis)
Delta777-XXX (Hank Nix)
Walter Wilson (A-Net Photographer)
Jay Robinson (A-Net Photographer)
Special Thanks to Delta Air Lines Captain Randy Schmoyer (sp) for flying this great aircraft, who retired along with the aircraft.
Thanks for everyone that made the L-1011 a very special aircraft. If I forgot any users I sincerely apoligize and let me know so I can post a follow up of this.
Wingnut135 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 134 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5115 times:
My earliest experiences with the L-1011 was when I was a kid when my dad and I would go to the parking lot on Lindbergh Blvd. off the west side of STL and just watch. I remember those beautiful white with red stripes that TWA flew. I thought they were the best planes in the air, much better than the DC-10. More graceful and streamlined.
I had to wait until I was in my mid 20's before I got to fly on one though. Being in the military and having been stationed overseas I've had quite a few pleasurable experiences with ATA and the L-1011. Getting to England, back to the States, and back again a few times. Also down to Turkey once wasn't bad either. Never had a bad flight. On the flip side I was a private contractor paid by ATA to do the push backs from the RAF Mildenhall passenger terminal. $125 to push it back 200 yards. To be on the ground at engine start was the best. That deep rumble as the pilot put the spark into it, and the beautiful white smoke that always came out the tail pipe. God do I miss it.
A good friend will get you out of jail. A real friend will be there with you saying, "Damn that was fun!"
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5087 times:
Lockheed L1011 Tristar was a great airliner at is time. TAP had 7 Dash 500's and people really enjoyed that airplane. The Tristar is beeing a victim of the new generation airplanes that can do what the Tristar used to do with a better economic performance. Another problem was the fact that Lockheed never wanted to have other engine options for the airplane and we know now that the RB211 was an incredible thirsty engine. Now with the price of the fuel raising up so fast the L1011 will have his days counted.
The design was fantastic, very elegant and I had the privilege to fly that airplane when I visited USA in 1989 with TWA. My flights were:
Dl757md From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1560 posts, RR: 18 Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5056 times:
I've spent more time in an L-1011 fuel tank than I care to remember. It made me a lot of money though. So it's all good. They were great to fly on. Wish I could have had the opportunity to jumpseat on one. The view through those huge windows must have been great.
My most vivid memory though is shortly after I became taxi qualified on the aircraft we were in the run-up hole at ATL doing max power assurance checks.
The RB-211 was particularly susceptible to compressor stalling during static high power runs in cross winds. It was important to make sure the plane was pointed into the wind during such a run.
Well the wind was really swirling around the run-up hole that night. We were able to finish the checks on #1 and #2 which was a relief as #2 usually was the worst about stalling due to the S-duct feeding the air to it. During the run of #3 the wind starting coming from the left side of the AC and swirled around as it passed around the fuselage and entered the engine. You can always tell when an engine is going to stall it starts to burble, rumble, and load up when it's not happy with cleanliness of the airflow into it.
I was in the captains seat running the throttles, my Lead was in the FOs seat, and the inspector running the show was at the FEs position. We had a few guys on the ground by the nose gear to assist in marshalling with one on a headset to communicate with the cockpit.
The number 3 engine had quite a few hours, the exact amount of which I can't remember. It had a history of overtemping and would probably be changed soon. As we neared 97% N1 it started to rumble and load up. I was hesitant to go any further but the inspector said keep going. He was running the show so I slowly pushed it forward until......a brilliant orange flash lit up the area and the inside of the cockpit along with a huge KaBoom! I pulled the throttles back immediately while the inspector grabbed for my hands to initiate what I had already done on my own.
The guys on the ground had luckily been sitting down except for the guy on the headset who was knocked down by the force of the explosion. The engine had experienced a severe compressor stall and a huge ball of fire had exploded out the front of the engine.
The engine now back at idle was showing a little over 2 units of vibes. Way above normal but not to the point that it couldn't be fixed. We decided to try again but by 70% N1 the vibes shot through the roof. We shut down and pulled it back to the hangar. They boroscoped it and we pulled it off the wing that night and sent it to the shop. I'm not sure how but the inspector and the rest of us never got in trouble for it.
Just my little addition to the "Official" L-1011 thread.
DeltaA380 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 84 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5027 times:
My first flight on an L-1011 was LAX-SFO on TW; the plane had just come from LHR and because the plane was so large and luxurious I kept feeling like I was headed to England even though it was only an hour long flight.
The CX L-1011 from KAI to NRT was probably my favorite flight, I got to see a volcano erupting on one of the southern islands of Japan and the CX service was typically outstanding.
LTU service from SFO to DUS was a bit cramped but a glorious bird none-the-less. This flight amused me because someone had mistakenly put two different type of safety cards on the aircraft, one for the L-1011-500 and one for the regular L-1011. I thought about mentioning this to the FAA but only because I was bitter that they wouldn't let me visit the cockpit. I let it go.
Thankfully, thanks to DL, I did get the chance to visit an L-1011 cockpit a couple times, both on flights between ATL and MCO (once on the ground in MCO and once in ATL.) My last flight was DL1949 about a month before the last of the old birds were retired.
I am honored to have been able to ride such a great aircraft with such a variety of carriers from around the globe and I couldn't agree more that some of these aircraft should be preserved. Is it just me that gets depressed when I think of all the aircraft types I never got a chance to ride on or which I won't be able to ride on again?
Delta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 12 Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4918 times:
Note, I have been inside but not flown on an ATA L-1011. My brother, my friend Rob and I were spotting at MCO back in 2000. An ATA L-1011 from San Juan had just de-planed at MCO and I walked halfway into the jetway and asked one of the ATA employees if we could step inside and take a few pics. The guy had no problem with it but told us to wait in the jetway until a couple other pax got off. We waited, then he took us in and turned us over to the F/A's. The F/A's were totally awesome and told us we could stay for awhile since they had a long layover. We chatted and toured the A/C for about 30 mins. The Pilot noticed we were onboard and told us to come up to the cockpit. We sit in their for awhile talking and took tons of photos. The TriStar was in great condition, my brother was shocked when I told him how old the plane was.
I would like to Thank the American Trans Air (ATA) Flight Crew for letting us enjoy their beautiful aircraft
B6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4902 times:
I remember being a little kid flying on one of those beasts from Sea-Atl being in the very middle of the middle row... too bad I didnt apreciate it like I would now... Beautiful aircraft though... I would love to see it in the new DL colours... were any of them ever painted in the new colours?
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 48 Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4875 times:
Oh yeah, the L-1011. A magnificent three-holer, especially in the good old Widget-livery. Can't remember all my L-1011 flights, because I was still young when I (supposedly, depends on acurateness of parents ) had my first flights, but I do remember taking the L-1011 on international routings such as FRA-ATL-FRA, BRU-ATL-BRU, FRA-MCO/ATL-FRA, and on the domestic route of ATL-LAX-ATL (twice). Always a nice sound when the engines would spool up, a wide cabin, and rather much personal space. Nothing spectacular to the flights to write home about, other than a fuel spill once at FRA, and the sheer elegance of the lines of the L-1011.
Over the years, DL has operated a total of 78 different L-1011s, out of a total of 250 produced. Most of their former L-1011s are now sitting at VCV (some 17 IIRC), waiting either for the scraper's torch, or a second or third life with a new carrier, like Kampuchea, a role in a TV series like "Lost", or just sit there in the desert as a reminder of the glorious days when flying three-holers was not as cost-intense as it is today.
Lt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4579 times:
Took an ATA L1011 to Saudi Arabia for my first "visit"in 2002. Flew Tinker TIK-Shannon-Aviano-Kuwait City-Prince Sultan AB. Then flew back to Europe on one from Prince Sultan to Larnaca to Crete to Frankfurt.
OK trip and friendly crew-though the first was moreso than the second. We also got to clean them when they hit the ramp at Prince Sultan. Since ATA had no ground crew we got paid $500 to clean the airplane inside. It was a squadron fundraiser type of thing.
Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, I've been called worse
Mainliner From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 382 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4555 times:
The only time I was on an L1011 was in August of 2000, ATL-LAX. I loved the 70's-esque interior, complete with sculped ceiling panels, orange trim in the rear lavs (five of them forming a cemi-circle at the rear of the cabin), and the beverage carts with the little orange and yellow drawings of fish, fruits, vegetables, loaves of bread, etc. on them.
Every flight counts.
25 CV990: Hi! Forgot to mention that I also flew from AMS/LHR in a Gulf Air L1011-100, A40-TW. Besides that I saw some L1011's not only in LIS but around the wo
26 7E72004: I would love to see an L1011 in Southwest colors... can anyone do up a picture of that??