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CO IAH-SRQ. Why Did They Stop?  
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

This flight was always full despite charging high fares for it over flights to TPA. They moved it around depending on the perceived demand (afternoon some days, morning other days). They also changed it from an E145 to a 73X at the holidays due to increased demand (though I think they could have filled the 737 at any time except mid-summer).

Now the flight looks to be gone, with no return for the winter as of yet. Why has CO done this? The route seemed to be able to easily handle 2x daily on an E145 or 1x on a 737. Why just drop it?

Any CO people know?


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User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3029 times:

ikramerika,
its all a conspiracy to me...if i were a betting man id say larry was mad at srq for some reason



bus driver.......move that bus:)
User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 993 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3030 times:

It should return Oct 1st. it shows on COA's website.
Depart: 8:20 a.m.
Sarasota, FL (SRQ)
Arrive:9:45 a.m.
Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental)
Travel Time:2 hr 25 mn
OnePass Miles:796
Flight: CO3155
Aircraft: Embraer RJ145

They also change the equipment on the EWR run to a 737-700

Aug and Sep are just really slow. All the carriers cut back.

What I'm wondering about is the return of NWA SRQ-DTW. I have been checking online and can't find a thing. I was hoping they would do what other carriers do when someone else enters their market, dump capacity on the route and start new routes trying to steal other market share. AirTran starts non-stops DTW-SRQ on Feb15. However nadda from NWA, I think they have greater problems.
From Nov on should be fantastic for SRQ it should break records, AirTran will be operating 9 flights a day 7-717's and 2- 737's to 7 different locations. Canjet is adding flights. ATA is returning with MDW flights. I haven't heard anything about US, DAL, COA, or NWA. I hope they add flights as well.



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User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 993 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

Cape Air also adds another SRQ-TPA trip.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3010 times:

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 2):

Strange. I tried booking it at the Christmas holiday and it isn't there. That's why I asked. I thought it might be gone in August/September, but expected it to be back.

Looks like they are keeping the late SRQ arrival, early departure schedule, or do they plan to alternate with the 5pm arrival 6pm departure schedule they also run at times?

I'd like to see CO move to 735s on this route, as it could easily do 80% loads on most in season days.



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User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 993 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

It looks like a aprox 0820am departure on Saturdays and the rest of the week a 0920am departure this is from SRQ-IAH. Looks like it will run this way though the end of March, lots of time to change the flight though. It's a bit early for COA to have their spring schedule loaded. What days are you looking to go?


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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6438 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2951 times:

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 2):
From Nov on should be fantastic for SRQ it should break records

I am assuming you mean RECENT records, say post 1993ish, because we are still WAAAAY behind the period before then. In July 1987, SRQ had 37 flights....mainline!, that's summertime........as of now, it looks like around peak (Feb, Mar, Apr) we'll have 30-35....that's with several regional jets.

SRQ's record is April, 1990.....we had 58 mainline departures.



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User currently offlineTLHFLA From United States of America, joined May 2003, 593 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2942 times:

I remember flying to/from SRQ in 1990 and 1991 and 727lover is right, there were a bunch of mainline flights. Didn't UA have 757 service then? I always remember seeing UA 757s at SRQ. I think it was routed SRQ-MCO-IAD or SRQ-MCO-ORD. Now, SRQ has no UA service  Sad I also remember AA mainline. I am not sure if they had service to DFW or ORD, but I remember relatives flying them from RDU to SRQ. That was before regional jets, so it must have been mainline. If I am not mistaken AA served TPA, PIE and SRQ with mainline service from RDU at one point.


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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6438 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2943 times:

Quoting TLHFLA (Reply 7):
I also remember AA mainline. I am not sure if they had service to DFW or ORD

DFW & RDU....one time we had a BNA flight/no return trip. AE had weekend ORD flights just before they pulled out

Quoting TLHFLA (Reply 7):
If I am not mistaken AA served TPA, PIE and SRQ with mainline service from RDU at one point.

To be honest, my memory is a little fuzzy on where those PIE flights. I remember them. They definetly served PIE, but I can't remeber which hub they served.  Smile



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 2 days ago) and read 2907 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
To be honest, my memory is a little fuzzy on where those PIE flights. I remember them. They definetly served PIE, but I can't remeber which hub they served.

They flew MIA-PIE in the mid-1990s with props.



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6438 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
They flew MIA-PIE in the mid-1990s with props.

I don't remember that service. Do you have a specific year? I have a bunch of old timetables, I can look it up. Ah yes...the days of the timetable!  yes 



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User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 993 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 6):

I am assuming you mean RECENT records, say post 1993ish, because we are still WAAAAY behind the period before then. In July 1987, SRQ had 37 flights....mainline!, that's summertime........as of now, it looks like around peak (Feb, Mar, Apr) we'll have 30-35....that's with several regional jets.

SRQ's record is April, 1990.....we had 58 mainline departures.

727, I was refering to pax counts, SRQ's busiest month ever was March 1990 with 255,247 pax passing through the terminal. So March of 2006 as of right now the following will operate daily.
Delta 7-Md 88's about 1008 each way
Comair 3 CRJ's about 170
Airtran 7-717's about 817
Airtran 2-737 about 274
Continental 2-737 about 260
CoEX 1 -erj 145 - about 50
Cape Air 4 ce402 about 30
ATA 2 -737 about 260
UsAirways ex 3 CRJ's about 150
NWA - 2 A320's about 260
total daily seats estimated 3280 X 31 =101680 one way 203360 SEATS RT
We would have to be like FlyI and have a 110% load factor.

So still well short of the 255,247 PAX

However those flights don't count FCA, any charter flights, or flights not operating daily. Canjet will have 3, 737's a week, ATA will have additional Sat service, NW Airlink will have additional Sat/Sun service.

I also can't expect USAirways to stick with 3 RJ's on the route, I expect them to go back to mainline. It's still way to early to tell what equipment and what routes will be added or changed. You never know, another airline might add service to SRQ.

BTW. Easter is mid April in 2006, so traffic counts should stay high through the end of April.

[Edited 2005-08-22 22:31:51]


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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6438 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 11):
You never know, another airline might add service to SRQ.

I just heard Allegant wants to go to PIE and RSW.....UGHH!


I've noticed that DL hasn't had 757s in here in a while.

Speaking of 757, CO breifly flew one in here for a month about 4 years ago.



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User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 993 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 12):
I just heard Allegant wants to go to PIE and RSW.....UGHH!


I've noticed that DL hasn't had 757s in here in a while.

well that sucks!!

Haven't had ASA making the ATL run either. No net loss in seats, no small planes but no bigger planes either. That changed when DL "debanked" ATL

RSW is going to kick some butt again this year with WN. I expect pax numbers to jump way up. They had over a million last March alone.

I wish Jetblue would fly to SRQ. I miss UA and AA as well. Maybe Airtran will add 1 more flight to Philly.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 12):
Speaking of 757, CO breifly flew one in here for a month about 4 years ago.

I think the biggest they go is a 738 shuttle config.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 12):
I've noticed that DL hasn't had 757s in here in a while.

May have been over Christmas holiday. They have switched to mainline jets from RJs to IAH at holidays and larger mainlines to EWR, but don't recall when it was a 757.

Just not sure why I still look for LAX-SRQ and get "no flights." If the SRQ-IAH is 9am, that means the IAH-SRQ gets in at 10pm or so, plenty of time for LAX connections. It's when it arrives at 5pm that makes it tough to connect...



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

well, connections are coming up valid again. IAH to SRQ leaves IAH at 6:20pm.


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