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Correct Me If I'm Wrong/AA Paint Scheme  
User currently offlineSebastian From Argentina, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

OK
So, correct me if I'm wrong.
But I just finished reading an "airliners" book about Chicago's O'Hare airport.
One caption states that American Airlines executives realized there was money to be saved by leaving large sections of their fuselages' unpainted.
First and foremost, don't get me wrong, I like the AA livery. But that seems sorta lame. And don't they still have to buff them anyway?



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User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (14 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1562 times:
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"large sections" ?? More like the entire plane, at least all the metal. The only paint is on not metallic surfaces and of course the cheatline and lettering. Yes, they do still have to polish the planes. Many say polishing takes up most of the money saved from not painting the aircraft. Although, with a fleet of over 700 aircraft, economies of scale takeover and it is probably a great savings to the airline.

Sammy


User currently offlineLBSteve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1560 times:

The EPA has praised AA for not painting their aircraft. The chemicals used to periodically strip the paint of airplanes (for mandated visual inspections) are highly toxic and an environmental disposal hazard.

User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2923 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (14 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

Don't forget, a conventional paintjob also adds hundreds of pounds to the aircraft's weight, increasing the fuel cost for that aircraft for each trip. that adds up to many dolars per trip per aircraft. This is important savings, especially today.


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User currently offlineYaki1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1547 times:

Anybody know how AAs exterior cleaning and polishing schedule works?

User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3471 posts, RR: 47
Reply 5, posted (14 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

>The only paint is on not metallic surfaces and of course the
>cheatline and lettering.

Cheatline and lettering are decals, not paint -- exception being ex-Reno Aircraft.

>Many say polishing takes up most of the money saved from not painting the aircraft.

Polishing a 777 takes a couple of hours. Painting takes days!

>Although, with a fleet of over 700 aircraft, economies of scale takeover
>and it is probably a great savings to the airline.

Yes, yes and yes again.

>Anybody know how AAs exterior cleaning and polishing schedule works?

Aircraft are washed about once per week. SAN folks say it takes less than 1 hour to fully wash an MD80 size plane. Polishing is done at major maintenance visits every 40-60 days and takes a polishing crew 2-3 hours to do an MD-11 size plane. They use motorized rollers on long poles for the most part. Not sure what polishing compound is used.



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User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1517 times:
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>The only paint is on not metallic surfaces and of course the
>cheatline and lettering.

>>Cheatline and lettering are decals, not paint -- >>exception being ex-Reno Aircraft.

The whole cheatline is a big ole sticker huh? Interesting.

>Many say polishing takes up most of the money saved from not painting the aircraft.

>>Polishing a 777 takes a couple of hours. Painting >>takes days!

True, but you polish an aircraft much more ofthen than you paint it. As you say every 2 months or so. Painting is done every few years or so if at all. So for a small airline, it may not be cost effective.

Sammy


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