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WN Red Eyes?  
User currently offlineJcavinato From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 520 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

Just curious as to why Southwest does not have any true red eye flights. Almost all their eastbound flights get to their destinations by midnight or about 1:00. But, there are no midnight departures from West Coast cities that get to East Coast ones at 5 and 6 in the morning. Almost every other carrier has late night eastbounds.

[Edited 2005-08-23 16:31:39]

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User currently offlineLsgg From Switzerland, joined Mar 2005, 577 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

Sorry for my ignorance guys, but can someone tell me what is a red eye flight
please ?  weeping 



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User currently offlineJcavinato From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

A night flight of long length whereby everyone getting off in the morning has red eyes. Classic eastbound trans-Atlantics, for example.

User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5161 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2732 times:

Red-Eyes are lengthy flights that take off late and arrive the next morning; or movies that star ole buddy from Batman Begins.

Southwest doesn't have red-eyes because they carry out maintenence at night. Its been discussed at length before; for more info try a search.



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User currently offlineLsgg From Switzerland, joined Mar 2005, 577 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

Thanks a lot ! One more things I've learnt today !  biggrin 


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User currently offlineGLA MD11 From France, joined Mar 2000, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

In your definition, you say lengthy flights. Can't see why. I have taken damn short red-eye flights, like SFO to ORD or PHL (about 3 hours, leaving around midnight, landing around 5AM local time).

And the shortest the flight, the more red the eyes are.


User currently offlineJcavinato From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

Drerx7, Thanks very much.

User currently offlineBoeingfan71 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 96 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

i took my first red eye from PHL-SEA with us airways we took off at about 11:30 eastern and arrived at about maybe 2:30 pacific time and i was tired and they didn't even have a movie.
Cheers,
Drake


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

Quoting Boeingfan71 (Reply 7):
PHL-SEA

PHL-SEA wouldnt be considered a red-eye...just a long flight

SEA-PHL would be a red eye if you took off from SEA at around 11pm pacific and arrived in PHL around 7am eastern, while not an 8 hr flight, technically you are flying over night with less time and less sleep (if any)...thus you would then have "red eyes".

This term doesnt apply to any day time flight, only overnighting flights



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User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

I know the topic has been discussed to death, but with sources of revenue becoming more and more elusive, I really believe that it's only a matter of time before we see Southwest red-eyes. With the increase in trans-cons that airline is flying, it may not be on a large scale, but I do think it's inevitable.


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User currently offlineBA747400 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

I too am surprised that WN has not introduced a red-eye flight. Jet Blue has a red-eye from DEN-BOS...i Believe this is still running.

Mike


User currently offlineAirknight From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

Somehow my redeye post got deleted, anyway, to continue this conversation, other than the transcon red eyes, could i have a list of other redeyes that are scheduled? I know of a Co express DEN-IAH.

User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3278 posts, RR: 45
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

Quoting Lsgg (Reply 1):
Sorry for my ignorance guys, but can someone tell me what is a red eye flight
please ?

I realize other people have already answered you, but I thought I'd make one more addition; most redeyes take advantage of time zones, to make the flight "longer." There is a "redeye" that leaves DEN at like 2:30, and gets into IAH at 5. Most redeyes fly from West to East, because it allows them to skip over time zones, as opposed to flying back into the same time. The same reason that a flight leaving LAX at midnight and gets into JFK at about 6, even though its only a 3.5 hour flight.


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

You guys that are flying from the West Coast to NYC/PHL in 3 to 3 1/2hours are rather lucky. What are you flying on? Concorde or CV-990?

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26370 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

Quoting BA747400 (Reply 10):
I too am surprised that WN has not introduced a red-eye flight.

They have thrown about the idea of flying a few from LAS, given the extreme success of HP on those routes, but have stayed the course of no redeyes up till now

Quoting BA747400 (Reply 10):
Jet Blue has a red-eye from DEN-BOS...i Believe this is still running.

B6 actually has a habit of starting in a market with a redeye as a test and then doing daytime flights later. It allows them to get maximum utilization as they can fly on the east coast during the day, then to the west, the back east over night



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1924 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

The reason is because that is when WN does all of their maitenence along with the deep cleaning of each plane. Instead of pulling it out of service which is a domino effect, they'll do the mx late at night so that it's ready in the morning.


My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

Actually I have noticed that a lot of the non-stop West to East coast Southwest flights takeoff early or late morning. There was also discussion of having redeye flights only out of Las Vegas, I don't know if Southwest is still trying to do that.

User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1988 times:

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 12):
The same reason that a flight leaving LAX at midnight and gets into JFK at about 6, even though its only a 3.5 hour flight.

Try 5 hours.

I'll be taking the SAN-JFK red-eye on JetBlue, should be an interesting experience. Leaves at 9:35, arrives at 5:50 or some such!

-IR


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