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User currently offlineMFEFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 367 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

Does anyone know what routes use widebodies from CO's hubs?


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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4638 times:

At present--very very few. They are maxed out on widebodies until 787s and 777s come online for the increased international services. The additional 753s they picked up from TZ will be going on routes that use to have widebodies--more than likely. Right now, the only domestic widebodies are: IAH-EWR-IAH (1 or 2 762s), IAH-HNL (2 764s), IAH-OGG (1 764), and EWR-HNL (1 764).


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User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4560 times:

Also:
LAX-HNL (764)


User currently offlineMakeMinesLAX From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 559 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4545 times:

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 1):
Right now, the only domestic widebodies are...

Add to that a split 762/764 LAX-HNL


User currently offlineNjintern From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

Please see below for a list of CO domestic widebody activity in August 2005.


Al Org Dst Flight Equip Dep Arr Op Days
CO EWR HNL 15 764 1330 1805 12.4567
CO GUM HNL 2 764 0600 1705 1.....7
CO GUM HNL 86 764 0815 1920 ..3....
CO HNL EWR 14 764 2130 1300 1234567
CO HNL GUM 1 764 1400 1730 ....56.
CO HNL GUM 73 764 1640 2010 1......
CO HNL IAH 72 764 1930 0805 ...45..
CO HNL IAH 86 764 2115 0955 .2.....
CO HNL LAX 12 764 2050 0500 123..67
CO IAH HNL 1 764 0935 1245 ....56.
CO IAH HNL 73 764 1220 1525 1.3....
CO LAX HNL 3 764 0940 1210 1234..7
CO EWR HNL 15 767 1330 1805 ..3....
CO GUM HNL 2 767 0600 1705 .23456.
CO HNL GUM 1 767 1400 1730 1234..7
CO HNL IAH 2 767 1830 0705 1234567
CO HNL IAH 72 767 2115 0955 ..3..67
CO HNL LAX 12 767 2050 0500 ...45..
CO IAH HNL 1 767 0935 1245 1234..7
CO IAH HNL 73 767 1135 1440 .....6.
CO IAH HNL 73 767 1220 1525 ...45.7
CO IAH OGG 49 767 0945 1240 .2.....
CO IAH OGG 49 767 1135 1430 .....6.
CO IAH OGG 49 767 1215 1510 1.345.7
CO LAX HNL 3 767 0940 1210 ....56.
CO OGG IAH 48 767 1800 0630 1234567


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

Thanks travelin man--I forgot to add LAX-HNL and HNL-GUM. Njintern--you forgot IAH-EWR with the 762.

Quoting MakeMinesLAX (Reply 3):
Add to that a split 762/764 LAX-HNL

Those are not 762s--they are 764 and 76Hs (the 764s with fewer business class seats/more economy). Continental refers to the 76Hs as 767 in their timetables.



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User currently offlineLemurs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4336 times:

I've had airfares come up in the past year with 777's connecting IAH-EWR. I'm sure those aren't regular flights, but they did show up on continental.com when connecting to one airport through the other. (Looking for various miles runs.)


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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4287 times:

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 6):
I've had airfares come up in the past year with 777's connecting IAH-EWR.

I've seen them too, and I've been told they're positioning flights to get widebodies between the two international ops hubs, but you don't see them in the peak summer season.


User currently offlineMakeMinesLAX From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 559 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 5):
Those are not 762s--they are 764 and 76Hs (the 764s with fewer business class seats/more economy). Continental refers to the 76Hs as 767 in their timetables.

Seems a little screwy, but thanks for pointing that out.


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 7):
Quoting Lemurs (Reply 6):
I've had airfares come up in the past year with 777's connecting IAH-EWR.

I've seen them too, and I've been told they're positioning flights to get widebodies between the two international ops hubs, but you don't see them in the peak summer season.

Not anymore--the 777s are maxed out on international runs. I've flown IAH-LAX-IAH and EWR-IAH on the 777; but those days are over for a while. They use to fly CO1/2 IAH-HNL-IAH on the 777 too. CO sometimes sends heavies down to SDQ, SJU, and AUA from EWR.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 9):
I've flown IAH-LAX-IAH and EWR-IAH on the 777; but those days are over for a while.

While IAH-LAX-IAH 777 went away with the Gulf War 2 (used them for troop transport, never returned to the route AFAIK), the 777 still does fly between EWR-IAH most of the time, just not in the peak summer travel period for Europe unless it is a reposition. In winter, expect to see one 777 flight at day between the 2, as well as 1 767. 767 (764, 76H, 762) could also return to LAX-IAH this winter as it has been that way every winter I've been living here (6).



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3975 times:

BTW - there are two 762 flights EWR-IAH daily right now. Winter one will likely return as a 777.


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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3924 times:

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 6):
I've had airfares come up in the past year with 777's connecting IAH-EWR.

CO 51 was downgraded from a 777 to 757 sometime this Summer.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3830 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 12):
CO 51 was downgraded from a 777 to 757 sometime this Summer.

depending on how the winter works out, you might see a 762 take over for a 764, a 764 take over for a 777 in europe, then the 777 end up back on that route for repositioning daily, likely replacing the 762, with another 762 serving LAX, etc., etc.. all depends on how CO calculates their demand.



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User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1602 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3824 times:

It is even Rumored for a Downgrade of LAX-HNL

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

I hate the timing of HNL-LAX on CO. Last thing I want after a nice vacation is to take a too short red-eye and arrive tired to my home. Not to mention that you must check out of your hotel many hours before the flight leaves.

Other airlines offer day flights as well.

But downgrading the 764 to a 762 means a huge hit in cargo, and LAX-HNL-LAX is an important cargo route, connecting a major US sea port in LAX to HNL, and providing Hawaiian goods to a large market in Southern California.



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User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3782 times:

Don`t forget EWR-MCO. There is usually one 767-2 or -4 coming in once a day. Haven`t seen any 777's lately. Just depends on load factors. Probably won't see anymore widebodies coming into MCO after CO picks up more TZ 757-300's.


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User currently offlineTsnamm From United States of America, joined May 2005, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3709 times:

Quoting MX757 (Reply 16):
Don`t forget EWR-MCO. There is usually one 767-2 or -4 coming in once a day. Haven`t seen any 777's lately. Just depends on load factors. Probably won't see anymore widebodies coming into MCO after CO picks up more TZ 757-300's.

There are no 767's of any kind running EWR-MCO anymore...better to use narrowbody lift domestically anyway...


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1795 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

I saw a CO 767-400 in Orlando (MC0) yesterday..They are regular substitutions all the time, however I believe are not scheduled.

User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3643 times:

Yeah the CO 767s sub for 757s frequently--they've been on IAH-MSY flights and IAH-CUN as well. When will the definitive winter skeds be loaded?


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