EI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3866 times:
Any info on how Americans new routes ORD-DUB and BOS-SNN Are doin? There was roumer that they were interested in starting Ireland to Miami or Dallas, anyone got any info on this? Or will the SNN stopover once again see an end to such a plan...
Philb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3860 times:
Both are performing above expectation according to AA staff I've had contact with.
However, with the overall numbers of US tourists to Ireland down this year - again - and the "expectation" not being quantified, it is difficult to judge just what the figures are.
As to additional destinations, Miami could do well in economy class given the loads on the charters this summer - but the traffic would be very much Irish generated and Miami on a narrow body is a different ball game to Boston.
Unless new gas and/or oil fields begin to be exploited around the coast, I wouldn't have thought Dallas would generate too much revenue and then Houston would be more likely and that's CO territory!
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3831 times:
They have always been keeping the option of flying Miami-Ireland open, but there are many issues with it.
Filling the plane would be no problem. Plenty of Irish coming to Florida and the Caribbean in the winter, and South Floridians vacationing in Ireland in the summer. Yield is the key thing here. With a 763, the profit margins would be marginal at best. However, thier proposed 757 winglet subfleet would be able to do Miami-Ireland with little problems. Miami-Ireland is best left to Aer Lingus, with their lower fares and Dublin hub, that could better get traffic from all three points: Miami-orgiinating, Ireland-orginating, and connecting traffic. Though under the US-Ireland air treaty, Aer Lingus can't fly to Miami.
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3737 times:
It's good to hear that American may actually be doing well on their new Ireland routes. I had been very doubtful of this, as I've found some unbelievable deals on flights involving those routings, in both economy and business class--not necessarily the sign of a route performing above and beyond expectations.
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3623 times:
Quoting PVD757 (Reply 5): AA has just asked for broad US-UK (not LGW/LHR) rights with the DOT to serve any point in the US to/from any point in the UK. I'm expecting more flights to Ireland in the future...
Ireland is not part of the UK, so don't expect this to generate more Ireland flights.
While I'd love to see DFW-DUB or DFW-SNN, it won't happen anytime soon. The route is too long for a 757, and the loads wouldn't justify using a much-needed 763 on the route.
On a related note, is AA still operating DFW-MAN on a seasonal basis?
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3566 times:
Quoting Trvlr (Reply 3): It's good to hear that American may actually be doing well on their new Ireland routes. I had been very doubtful of this, as I've found some unbelievable deals on flights involving those routings, in both economy and business class--not necessarily the sign of a route performing above and beyond expectations.
Tell me about it! I am flying the roundtrip ORD - DUB - ORD flight on AA in December and January, for $304.95 with all taxes and fees!