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AA - Will They Launch More Routes To Ireland?  
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Any info on how Americans new routes ORD-DUB and BOS-SNN Are doin? There was roumer that they were interested in starting Ireland to Miami or Dallas, anyone got any info on this? Or will the SNN stopover once again see an end to such a plan...

[Edited 2005-08-24 18:28:12]

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User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4006 times:

Both are performing above expectation according to AA staff I've had contact with.

However, with the overall numbers of US tourists to Ireland down this year - again - and the "expectation" not being quantified, it is difficult to judge just what the figures are.

As to additional destinations, Miami could do well in economy class given the loads on the charters this summer - but the traffic would be very much Irish generated and Miami on a narrow body is a different ball game to Boston.

Unless new gas and/or oil fields begin to be exploited around the coast, I wouldn't have thought Dallas would generate too much revenue and then Houston would be more likely and that's CO territory!


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3977 times:

They have always been keeping the option of flying Miami-Ireland open, but there are many issues with it.

Filling the plane would be no problem. Plenty of Irish coming to Florida and the Caribbean in the winter, and South Floridians vacationing in Ireland in the summer. Yield is the key thing here. With a 763, the profit margins would be marginal at best. However, thier proposed 757 winglet subfleet would be able to do Miami-Ireland with little problems. Miami-Ireland is best left to Aer Lingus, with their lower fares and Dublin hub, that could better get traffic from all three points: Miami-orgiinating, Ireland-orginating, and connecting traffic. Though under the US-Ireland air treaty, Aer Lingus can't fly to Miami.



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User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3883 times:

It's good to hear that American may actually be doing well on their new Ireland routes. I had been very doubtful of this, as I've found some unbelievable deals on flights involving those routings, in both economy and business class--not necessarily the sign of a route performing above and beyond expectations.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5604 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

Ireland is very expensive in US$ terms compared to other parts of the world. The absolute numbers aren't bad in themselves, the problem is you get a two-star hotel or meal for four-star prices.

I can easily understand the tourist numbers being down.



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3420 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3768 times:

AA has just asked for broad US-UK (not LGW/LHR) rights with the DOT to serve any point in the US to/from any point in the UK. I'm expecting more flights to Ireland in the future...

User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 5):
AA has just asked for broad US-UK (not LGW/LHR) rights with the DOT to serve any point in the US to/from any point in the UK. I'm expecting more flights to Ireland in the future...

Ireland is not part of the UK, so don't expect this to generate more Ireland flights.

While I'd love to see DFW-DUB or DFW-SNN, it won't happen anytime soon. The route is too long for a 757, and the loads wouldn't justify using a much-needed 763 on the route.

On a related note, is AA still operating DFW-MAN on a seasonal basis?



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3734 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 6):
On a related note, is AA still operating DFW-MAN on a seasonal basis?

I wish...AA has not operated this flight for at least five years or so, well before 9/11. Mark could probably give you the exact date the service was discontinued.

I would like to see AA or BA give this route another go sometime in the future.....


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6372 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

Quoting Trvlr (Reply 3):
It's good to hear that American may actually be doing well on their new Ireland routes. I had been very doubtful of this, as I've found some unbelievable deals on flights involving those routings, in both economy and business class--not necessarily the sign of a route performing above and beyond expectations.

Tell me about it! I am flying the roundtrip ORD - DUB - ORD flight on AA in December and January, for $304.95 with all taxes and fees!


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3691 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 6):
Ireland is not part of the UK, so don't expect this to generate more Ireland flights.

Although they could fly from Belfast in Northern Ireland (which is in the UK) and would aslo avoid the SNN stopover. CO recently launched BFS - EWR with a 757.

[Edited 2005-08-24 21:27:12]

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