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Did UPS And FedEx Cancel Their 380 Orders?  
User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12434 times:

I was on Airbus's website and in the orders/deliveries section they do not show any orders for the 380 for either FedEx or UPS. I know that UPS just ordered 8 744F but was not sure if they cancelled their 380 order. As for FedEx I have no clue why they wouldn't show their 380 order, is it because they delayed their order or something?

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User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12416 times:

As far as I know they are still on order.

Drew



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User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1761 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12391 times:
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Quoting Jdwfloyd (Thread starter):
I was on Airbus's website and in the orders/deliveries section they do not show any orders for the 380 for either FedEx or UPS. I know that UPS just ordered 8 744F but was not sure if they cancelled their 380 order. As for FedEx I have no clue why they wouldn't show their 380 order, is it because they delayed their order or something?

I thought UPS ordered 8 767-400F's ...

- litz


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12367 times:

I would bet that the web site only lists orders for the passenger A380.


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User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12366 times:

Quoting Litz (Reply 2):
I thought UPS ordered 8 767-400F's

Nope, it was 747-400F's that they ordered.



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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12346 times:

Quoting Litz (Reply 2):
I thought UPS ordered 8 767-400F's

No it is the 744F, I don't think there is such a animal as a 764F.


User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5023 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12245 times:

Um, I don't know where you're looking exactly, but when I open the orders and deliveries section of Airbus' website, the FedEx order most certainly is there.

As for UPS, the A380 order is not there because the final contract has not been signed yet. Airbus only puts orders in there after all the paperwork is done and the contract is final. For the same reason their A300 cancellations do not show yet, they're still shown as having orders for 90. It's a matter of time, they'll show up.


User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12201 times:

http://www.airbus.com/en/corporate/orders_and_deliveries/

it only shows the A300/310 orders.


User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12197 times:

Maybe EK have purchased the delivery slots  Smile


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User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5023 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12134 times:

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 7):
it only shows the A300/310 orders.

For UPS, yes it does, as explained above. For FedEx, the A380s are there. Not sure how you're missing that... Could it be you didn't see that in the spreadsheet, the A380F is listed separately from the passenger version?


User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11970 times:

I was just looking at the quick view scroll thing, I will check out the spread sheet ,thanks

User currently offlineSkihigh2002 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11883 times:

Yep, FDX has ordered them.

Can't wait to see those big birds in MEM.

Chris


User currently offlineCospn From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1619 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11832 times:

IND is spending a several Million for the A380 Upgrades for FedEx (Scheduled) and for diversions from nearby ORD or elsewhere

User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13184 posts, RR: 77
Reply 13, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11629 times:

UPS say the new 747F order is to supplement the A380's, (they'll also arrive a couple of years sooner), as well as replacing on some routes, MD-11F's.

User currently offlineFedexexpress From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11278 times:

IND will see 2 A380's on the "Night shift" That will be awesome to see that at IND!!!!


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User currently offlineGlideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9736 times:

Quoting GDB (Reply 13):
UPS say the new 747F order is to supplement the A380's, (they'll also arrive a couple of years sooner), as well as replacing on some routes, MD-11F's

Actually it's to supplement their entry into the Heavy Lift Cargo segment. The 380F will not have the ability to lift the required loads.



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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9551 times:

Can people quit it with the negative Airbus posts ??

Dont you think if 5X and FX cancelled the A380 it would be big news?


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9426 times:

I was on Airbus's website and in the orders/deliveries section they do not show any orders for the 380 for either FedEx or UPS.

Yes it does. You just have to look for it. Keep in mind, the list is only for orders in FY2005. I think UPS and FDX posted their orders in FY2004. If you go to the North American page, you'll see them there.

Now, if Airbus keeps pushing the delivery dates back, that could be another story....and I'll bet anything that the Boeing Sale Team is calling in some sweet deals to FDX and UPS to cancel the A380 orders.



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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 968 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9276 times:

>> Can people quit it with the negative Airbus posts ??

He couldn't find the orders under Airbus order page and wondered why this was the case. There is no negative Airbus bias either explicitly or implied.


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8985 times:

Quoting N754PR (Reply 16):
Can people quit it with the negative Airbus posts ??

Dont you think if 5X and FX cancelled the A380 it would be big news?

Stop being so sensitive, it was not an anti-Airbus comment, but a simple question. You are correct though in that common sense could have been used, but, this is certainly not a negative Airbus comment.....



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User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8674 times:
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According to the UPS Dispatch biweekly news letter, (which came out Monday) the A380s are still on order. The new 747s will supplement the current MD-11s and A380s on order, "operating global trunk routes between North America, Asia, Europe, and the Middle East. The 747-400 will offer UPS more payload and range capability than the current MD-11s."

On a side note, UPS has no firm retirement dates for the 747 Classics, but they are looking to get rid of them within the next 2 to 4 years, depending on "package volume growth, replacement aircraft supply, and the physical condition of the 747-100/200 fleets."



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User currently offlineGBan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7046 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 18):
He couldn't find the orders under Airbus order page and wondered why this was the case. There is no negative Airbus bias either explicitly or implied.

When I saw the thread title I clicked immediately. I read his post and it took me less than 30 seconds to find that the answer to the question in the title is clearly no. Maybe it would be better to ask "Where can I find xxx on yyy's website?". But I admit the thread title used will get significantly more clicks  Wink


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6882 posts, RR: 63
Reply 22, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5636 times:

Quoting GDB (Reply 13):
UPS say the new 747F order is to supplement the A380's

Probably true. But I do wonder if it's also some sort of 'insurance' in case the worst rumours about the A380 turn out to be true.


User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4445 times:

I think Boeing is making some generous deals to keep the 747-line active and made UPS an offer that was too good to turn down.

Anyway I think it is nearly inconceivable that either carrier would cancel the A380 order at this point, particularly FedEx. There was an article on www.aviationnow.com a couple of years ago that discusses the very substantial efficiency gain that FedEx will get out of the A380. The efficiency gain seemed large enough that even if the A380 is misses its targets by some margin, FedEx would still benefit greatly from the A380.


User currently offlineFrontiers4ever From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4127 times:

The A380F order is still happening for FedEX, and UPS. If you download the excel spreadsheet from airbus.com it will show that FedEx still has 10 orders for the A380F.

-Frontiers4ever



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25 BoeingBus : The question lies in what the hell is happening with UPS' A380 order/conversion??? According to Airbus they have A300 on order and not an A380. I don'
26 WINGS : Would you care to explain what rumor that would be? Regards, Wings
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