UncGSO From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 327 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
wish GSO would come back....crazy how 737-400's used to make the trip...
SHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3661 posts, RR: 19 Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1740 times:
Quoting Jdwfloyd (Thread starter): Starting on Oct 13th US will resume non-stop service from PIT-SCE with a Dash once a day, hey its better than losing flights.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's temporary. Penn State University students and Nittany Lion football fans lose that way home from Beaver Stadium for good on November 9th.
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Jdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1734 times:
That schedule has not been finalized yet, so there may be hope. I know the whole Republic deal is up in the air and also Transtates may be losing their code share around that time. I was looking at it tonight and there are a lot of holes in the schedule like only one flight a day to DAY and other such oddities. It may just be that they do not know who will serve the route.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29 Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1560 times:
Dropping the SCE-PIT seemed dumb at first as they basically handed over the westbound traffic to NW & DL. However, SCE has a lot of USAirways elite passengers in the local business community & university-related travel. People were originally very upset that they were then forced to go through the delay-prone PHL. Now this really doesn't help a whole lot since there are minimal connecting opportunities left in PIT. Simply put, there are a lot of places you can't get to from there. 1 daily is a start though. It could be more or less to bridge Piedmont aircraft over to PIT from PHL.
PITA333 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 391 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1380 times:
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 48 Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1295 times:
Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 2): Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's temporary. Penn State University students and Nittany Lion football fans lose that way home from Beaver Stadium for good on November 9th.
The November schedule is wrong and hasn't been loaded yet. The November schedule is wrong and hasn't been loaded yet. The November schedule is wrong...
(Now why US insists on confusing people like this, I don't know.)
Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 4): It could be more or less to bridge Piedmont aircraft over to PIT from PHL.
Bingo.
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
SHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3661 posts, RR: 19 Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1259 times:
Quoting A330323X (Reply 6): The November schedule is wrong and hasn't been loaded yet. The November schedule is wrong and hasn't been loaded yet. The November schedule is wrong...
So, is the November schedule right?
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A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 48 Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1269 times:
Also, PIT will regain a nonstop to AOO, and RJs will show up on frequencies to MDT and RDU.
PIT-BNA will be ending, though; not sure if this is just seasonal until November, or if it's for good.
Expect a lot of this--service additions/subtractions/changes in smaller Express markets--in the coming months, as lots of planes enter and leave the Express fleet, not necessarily at the same time, to say nothing of any other changes planned for a given city.
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
F27XXX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1243 times:
When is HP management officially in charge of US?
The nimrods in Crystal Palace down there have always loved playing 'ring around the system' with the Express carriers . and the 'poof youre gone' thing with routes, only to bring them back again later, to say nothing of the complete lack of direction that airlline has had for the past several years.
One can only hope that once HP is firmily in charge, those idiots that have been in positions of control at US in Washington are thrown far from the ship!
Tony
PS I'm not just shootng from the hip, I worked as a PSS for them for 7 yrs.
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1249 times:
Quoting A330323X (Reply 8): and RJs will show up on frequencies to MDT
Here we go again, using RJ's on routes where they probably don't even get to set their altimeters to 29.92. If US is going to add jet service to an intra-PA route (sans PIT-PHL, they need jets for capacity there) why not PIT-ABE. It's the longest intra-PA route they run from PIT, (PHL-ERI would be longer though... but it's already RJ's) and it's also ABE's #1 O&D route according to the last look at faremeasure.com. (Not saying if I agree with this... but...) The sickest thing is looking at the SCASD report, and how many airports were fighting to get more/upgraded service to PHL. How long until people realize it's already bursting at the seams?!?
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 48 Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1232 times:
Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 10): Here we go again, using RJ's on routes where they probably don't even get to set their altimeters to 29.92. If US is going to add jet service to an intra-PA route (sans PIT-PHL, they need jets for capacity there) why not PIT-ABE. It's the longest intra-PA route they run from PIT, (PHL-ERI would be longer though... but it's already RJ's) and it's also ABE's #1 O&D route according to the last look at faremeasure.com. (Not saying if I agree with this... but...) The sickest thing is looking at the SCASD report, and how many airports were fighting to get more/upgraded service to PHL. How long until people realize it's already bursting at the seams?!?
Come on, now, you're getting far too predictable. I knew you were going to complain about that before you posted it. Why do you think I mentioned the RJ to MDT in the first place?
Seriously, though, there's a good amount of government traffic on the route, and an RJ is the only way to increase capacity, since US doesn't fly any DH3s at PIT. An RJ to MDT doesn't bother me at all. (ERI still seems a waste, though.)
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 48 Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1224 times:
Shoot, I made a mistake. Those flights are just for Furniture Market, they're not permanent. (Which makes sense, as I was surprised that they'd restart the route.) Sorry for getting your hopes up.
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
PITA333 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 391 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1187 times:
Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 10): It's the longest intra-PA route they run from PIT
Color me stupid, but when did service to Scranton, PA stop from PIT?
Rolo987 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1174 times:
Service to Scranton never ended. PIT-ABE is 10 miles longer than PIT-AVP.
PITA333 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 391 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1168 times:
UncGSO From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 327 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1150 times:
Quoting A330323X (Reply 12): Shoot, I made a mistake. Those flights are just for Furniture Market, they're not permanent. (Which makes sense, as I was surprised that they'd restart the route.) Sorry for getting your hopes up.
oh its ok...haha...i was excited too when i saw an A319 and an E170 from PHL...but alas is just for Market too....gettin a 73G from EWR and a 735 from IAH on CO too....Market is a fun time to watch....too bad its not permanent...
Halaka From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 33 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1108 times:
At least in terms of University travel we are restricted to the lowest fare that our travel site finds for us (which often isn't the very cheapest you can find elsewhere online, oddly enough). You have to appeal any fare that costs more, even if it's only 2 dollars more (the threshold is set to 1 dollar). Students and biz-types can do what they want, of course. But I would guess that a major share of the daily travel out of SCE is made up of folks flying on the PSU dime.
So while most of us would love to NOT fly all the way to PHL, connect in their special kind of hell, and THEN fly south/west/etc.. we often have to.
PIT coming back is nice - but once a day is worthless to anyone who isn't just going on vacation and since it's constantly losing service, it's not like you can get to half the places from PIT that you can from PHL.
In October I'm trying something new and flying out of AOO on US to IAD and connecting on United to SLC (via ORD). It ended up being about $100 cheaper than anything I could find out of SCE, and this way I get to hop on a 777 in both directions between IAD and ORD. The cheapest trip out of here of course was the DL flight that leaves at 5:20 AM or whatever (the a**crack of dawn) and gets you out west via CVG by mid-morning west coast time. This is a surefire way to ensure that you get to your hotel so early that you can't even check in yet, and you've been awake then since 3 AM. Nice if you have an afternoon meeting out west, but not nice if you just need to get there the day before a weeklong conference.
Jdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1018 times:
Quoting A330323X (Reply 8): PIT-BNA will be ending, though; not sure if this is just seasonal until November, or if it's for good.
When I checked on Thursday there was still one flight a day to BNA on a Transtates ERJ at around 11am.
Service to Scranton never ended. PIT-ABE is 10 miles longer than PIT-AVP.
ABE is significantly further east than one would think. PA kind of juts outward here in the Lehigh Valley.
Quoting Halaka (Reply 17):
So while most of us would love to NOT fly all the way to PHL, connect in their special kind of hell, and THEN fly south/west/etc.. we often have to.
HAHA "Special kind of hell" I love it, and that's exactly my point I've been making about PIT!! Look at CO, people going to the Midwest/Great Lakes region on CO go to CLE for RJ connections instead of flying east to EWR and then going west, and it's rare to be on a flight going anywhere out of CLE that is below 80% (Yes I know, full seats doesnt = profit, but CO makes profits overall... and they usually are NOT the cheapest, just the most convenient) Not to mention cutting some frequency on routes out of PHL by moving the outstation-connecting hub-outstation traffic to PIT would ease congestion at PHL, enabling US to operate more efficiently, and then people would hate PHL less.
Quoting A330323X (Reply 11):
Come on, now, you're getting far too predictable. I knew you were going to complain about that before you posted it. Why do you think I mentioned the RJ to MDT in the first place? Silly
Yep, and then I went away for the weekend and never even had time to defend myself.
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Here we go again, using RJ's on routes where they probably don't even get to set their altimeters to 29.92. If US is going to add jet service to an intra-PA route (sans PIT-PHL, they need jets for capacity there) why not PIT-ABE. It's the longest intra-PA route they run from PIT, (PHL-ERI would be longer though... but it's already RJ's) and it's also ABE's #1 O&D route according to the last look at faremeasure.com. (Not saying if I agree with this... but...) The sickest thing is looking at the SCASD report, and how many airports were fighting to get more/upgraded service to PHL. How long until people realize it's already bursting at the seams?!?
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