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First Development 787 Nose Completed  
User currently offlineGrantcv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 430 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16543 times:

http://prn.newscom.com/cgi-bin/pub/s...tos-48385&redir=preview&tr=1&row=1

Story at http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...story/08-25-2005/0004094378&EDATE=

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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16520 times:

Looks familiar, like another plane I've seen, like a 757.


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User currently offlineLee From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16508 times:

Very sleek and modern, looks nothing like a 757 nose though.

User currently offlineKaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2392 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16494 times:

WOW nice... Thanks for the links. Although, I though the 787 will be assembled like Airbus planes. The subcontractors would build the entire forward section as a whole and put in on a Boeing Beluga for shipment to Everett?

User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16476 times:

the cockpit windows look very low. A very streamlined front end.

User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16411 times:

-Disclaimer: may have been previously discussed...but here goes...

Witchita huh? Are they going to train these fuselages to Everett? Or is this where that chubby 747 pic I saw come in?

fluffy

EDIT- I see Kaitak kinda posted the same thing I asked while I posted...sorry..

[Edited 2005-08-25 21:05:21]

User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16391 times:

Quoting Lehpron (Reply 1):
Looks familiar, like another plane I've seen, like a 757.

Looks nothing like the 757, the 787 nose look a lot sleeker......



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User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16356 times:

Very cool!

I will compromise here and say that it looks like a blending of a 757 nose, and a Bombardier nose, ie: CRJ, Challenger.

Very cool though. I like it!

Russ



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User currently offlineBlackhawk144 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16335 times:

Is the door high? Or is the cockpit windows low? Should be interesting, and I personally think it looks very sleek.

Anthony


User currently offlineWeb From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16243 times:

It doesn't seem wide enough; is it just because the door, windscreen, and windows are bigger than, say, a 767?

Also, what model is this 787 going to be (a 787-300/-800/-900)?



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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16210 times:

I think the 788 is the first model to roll out....

User currently offlineContinentalFan From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16195 times:

Quoting Web (Reply 9):
It doesn't seem wide enough; is it just because the door, windscreen, and windows are bigger than, say, a 767?

The windows are probably twice as large as current windows, so that may affect the visible scale. Plus the picture caption says the thing is 19 feet (224 inches) in diameter, which is quite wide.

Quoting Web (Reply 9):
Also, what model is this 787 going to be (a 787-300/-800/-900)?

I think the first plane will be a 787-8, the baseline model.


User currently offlineAAgent From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 560 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16161 times:

A beautiful start to what will almost certainly be a stunning and beautiful aircraft. I'm rather eager to see the completed wings and tail.

Best Regards,
AAgent



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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4113 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16102 times:

The nose is the same on all models, but yes the -8 will be the first one.

I think it looks great! Much better than the artist concept! Boeing still knows how to make beautiful planes! Big grin


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1884 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16097 times:

For me it looks like the SE-210 (Caravelle).

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4113 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16076 times:

Quoting Viasa (Reply 14):
For me it looks like the SE-210 (Caravelle).

That's the first thing I thought of as well...and the Caravelle is quite good looking.  Wink


User currently offlinePlanemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1008 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16067 times:
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Sweeeeeeeet!

Really nice shape. I like the sharp nose. Can't wait to see it along with the rest of the airframe!

Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 15965 times:

Quoting Planemannyc (Reply 16):
Really nice shape. I like the sharp nose. Can't wait to see it along with the rest of the airframe!

Don't hold your breath. First one is always for static testing. If anything it'll end up in a pile of debris after being tested to destruction.


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15889 times:

Im still wondering, why are the cockpit windows so low? Is the cockpit itself slightly lower than the main cabin?

User currently offlineGrantcv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 430 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15847 times:

It is hard to guage the scale from these pictures, but the cockpit windows look very large. I look at the pictures and I mentally scale it to a 737 nose, but then I realize that this is a 767 sized nose. I wish I could see a person alongside the nose for reference.

How can Boeing increase the pressurization and make the windows bigger at the same time? Aren't the windows the weak point?


User currently offlineGARPD From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2005, 2686 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15817 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 18):
Im still wondering, why are the cockpit windows so low? Is the cockpit itself slightly lower than the main cabin?

Probably like the 757 then.



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User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5037 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15803 times:

Quoting Viasa (Reply 14):
For me it looks like the SE-210 (Caravelle).

And the Comet  Wink (Caravelle and Comet had the same nose btw).

Couldn't quite put my finger on it before, but now that you mention it, it indeed looks a lot like it!


User currently offlineZkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1717 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15693 times:

its commin together , lets wait till its in NZ clours , then there will be fireworks


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User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15643 times:

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 21):
Quoting Viasa (Reply 14):
For me it looks like the SE-210 (Caravelle).

And the Comet

- it's not "and the Comet", it's just the Comet (Caravelle had Comet nose, not "they both had the same nose").

Very nice, looks more similar to earlier artist concept than to the present "final" one.


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4113 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 15625 times:

Actually the Caravelle 6N and later models had bigger flightdeck windows which look more like this 787 nose.

25 Cun757 : It looks like a Embraer...
26 Alphafloor : Reminds me of a Caravelle... but new.
27 PPVRA : Nice!!! Can't wait to see that pane fly! Btw, will they also make a wing for development porpouses only too? Haha, it does. Except a bit more round-is
28 Post contains images GARPD : and I'm willing to bet somewhat larger too
29 Kaitak744 : Interesting to see it already painted by the subcontractors. Isn't it the first aircraft to be prepainted before final assembly?
30 Boeing7E7 : Composites.
31 GARPD : Its just a test piece. They are painting them to check the methods of painting etc.
32 Hawker : Probably a silly thought, but can you paint it before it gets heat treated and essentially bake the paint on?
33 DL021 : What a good looking airplane already! To answer the earlier question, I believe they plan on flying the parts from Wichita to Everett.
34 11Bravo : I'd be willing to bet that the cockpit windows will look lots smaller, and more proportional, once the frames and glass are installed.
35 Post contains images Halibut : Very impressive ! Certainly looks like a more Futuristic aircraft ! Thanks for the photo and update ! Halibut
36 Air NZ : Nice Nose! Just had a thought, other then the cost, is it Possible to buy a nose section of an aircraft from any Manufacturer. It would be great fun t
37 SATX : Isn't that 'decrease'?
38 Post contains images BlueSky1976 : Actually, their newer planes are getting to be more beautiful... Boeing, unfortunately, has a history of making some ugly planes. So as a company who
39 Post contains links 777WT : Prob. to retain the streamlined look and for headroom for the pilots. Glad it came out this way instead of the latest computerized 787 image from Boe
40 Post contains images A340600 : Looks pretty damn awesome, though this plane is starting to look more and more normal Sam
41 Drewwright : I'll go with those that say it looks like the Embraer 170/190. And that's a good thing.
42 Jet-lagged : Grantcv - nice pics This look very cool. Even if the shark's fin is gone, the nose evokes predatory characteristics. Interesting to see it still label
43 Post contains links and images SNATH : The windows are very tall compared to current windows, this is why it gives you the impression that the windows are sitting higher with respect to th
44 Centrair : Woooooo hooooooooooo!!!!! Beautiful, Awsome, Sleek, Coming to an Airport near you in the next 5 years. Can't wait. WOOOOOO HOOOOO.. Sorry I am just a
45 Post contains links Planesailing : The 747 Large Cargo Freighter (LCF) http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q1/nr_050222g.html
46 Post contains images AA777 : it does look better than the artists renderings. More streamlined. Less like a 767 and more like an Embraer 170. This is gonna be a sweeet looking pla
47 Post contains images Halibut : What's up with that Saudi Arabian 747 ? Never saw one like that before . Any more flying ? Halibut
48 Post contains links Sq212 : Sleek and pointed. Additional new release from Boeing: http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q3/nr_050825g.html Cheers
49 Ushermittwoch : @ Halibut: It's an SP. Great plane, sadly I have never had the chance to fly on one (so far). And to the 787, it actually looks a lot better than on t
50 SonofHerman : I cant wait to see the 787 in NWA colors.... I hope that they are still around to take delivery of them....
51 NWA742 : Sorry attempt to discredit the 787. Boeing never claimed it would be significantly different as far as looks compared to other airliners. However, th
52 ContnlEliteCMH : Wow. Beautiful! I'm enamored of the carbon fiber fuselage. I love how they can vary the thickness at will. I love how it can assume shapes not possibl
53 Shenzhen : The 767 has a step down to the flight deck, so maybe the 787 does also. Cheers
54 NWA742 : I believe the 757 is the one that has the step down to the cockpit, not the 767. Maybe both have it, not sure though. -NWA742
55 AirTranTUS : I agree that a person standing near it would be gould so we have an accurate scale of the nose section. Is it just me or does the door seem a little s
56 Mainliner : I'm still a little confused as to why it's painted already...will this nose section be used on an actual production aircraft? Or is it meant to be a m
57 Post contains links Litz : Most likely by Beluga, or whatever the 747-guppyized thing is called ... There a valid reason : 737 fuselages are shipped by train (go to railpicture
58 Post contains links Grantcv : Another look at the new nose. Looks awfully like a Caravelle in this picture: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/photos/photo.asp?PhotoID=71749 I was expec
59 Grantcv : I believe this is a development piece - a prototype to test out the manufacturng process. It will never be on an actual plane. Production is still a
60 Air NZ : Ohh yes I know that way lol. Though in New Zealand that wouldn't be easy unless going on a buying spree. Then shipping it back. But does anyone know
61 GQfluffy : Living in MT, I see alot of these fuselages...never remember my camera...maybe one of these days. Wisconsin? WTH are they going way up there from Wit
62 Air NZ : Was mentioning the famous bullet holes to my brother, I just remembered they have found arrows too. What would happen if Boeing put signs on the fuse
63 Milan320 : Serious? What gives ... people use the fuselage for target practice or is crime so rapant in those parts? -Milan320
64 777ER : Sadly that day can't come soon enough
65 GARPD : HA HA HA..... never knew that,.... thats crazy
66 Post contains images HAWK21M : Looks good. How many Windows either side. regds MEL
67 Jush : Well if thats the Nose section the 787 will acltually look like... fantastic... I love it
68 Post contains links BoeingBus : Very cool... "One unique feature of the 787 nose section is the big cockpit windows. All Boeing jetliners today have three cockpit windows on each sid
69 Post contains images DAYflyer : I agree, very impressive looking business end of the airplane! Can't wait to see the rest of it come together, it is going to be AWESOME!!
70 ToTheStars : Im glad they kept the sleek look. It looks much better than I thought it would. No big "forehead" like the 380.
71 Columbia107 : Forget about the shape and size. It seems the 787 will be a beauty. What is incredible is how Boeing is changing the way it builds planes. I suspect A
72 Post contains images Western737 : 737-200 a ugly bird?? Nooooo! By the way, I love this 787's new nose part. I am pleased to know that 757-like nose part will going on for other decad
73 Post contains images Ourboeing : Heck no. Skinny as hell though. HAPPY FRIDAY OURBOEING
74 BlueSky1976 : I'd take DC-9-30 over that anytime. Planes are a lot like girls... they are either tall (long) and sleek or short and fat. Which one would you have?
75 Post contains images Halibut : All I had to was look at the date in the photo . dah ! The cockpit windows are certainly larger . Kinda like the windshields on ultra high proformanc
76 Dl757md : Not a silly thought at all. Composites get baked in an autoclave (an oven that is pressurized). So it's not heat treating in the traditional sense. I
77 CaptOveur : It looks like a CRJ on steroids.
78 Post contains images Glareskin : Very good looking nose indeed! Previous new nose I've seen was the A380. That one didn't win the beauty contest. I'd advice a nosejob for the big bus.
79 Beaucaire : In case of a structural dammage to the body of the 787,will the repairs be thicker than the remaining body ?? Or do repair-manuals forsee a new "backi
80 Dl757md : Properly accomplished composite repairs are typically minimally thicker or higher than the surrounding area. They are sometimes quite difficult for e
81 Halibut : Are these CRJ's made of composites also ? Halibut
82 Post contains images Lemonsoda : Merçi SNATH
83 Access-Air : Yes definately the Comet or Caravelle comes to mind... cant wait to see the finished product... Access-Air
84 Halibut : Lemonsoda, Thanks for providing those 2 photos showing the aerodynamic differences between the 787 & 767. That's what I was trying to say . See how m
85 Grantcv : I tried superimposing the 787 photo directly on the Brittania 767 photo. Although there are probably scale differences, if you line up the doors (they
86 Jet-lagged : Are you serious?? Gun nuts are shooting at fuselages that people are going to fly in??? Random violence in yet another bulleted form. What a sad soci
87 SNATH : Pas de quoi! And thank you for putting together the great comparison! Tony
88 Post contains links SNATH : Incidentally, Boeing's Randy Baseler mentions the new nose in his blog (even though he doesn't actually say anything new about it). http://www.boeing.
89 DarthRandall : I do like the look of the nose. It may prove to a be a particularly unique-looking aircraft after all! To paraphrase my handle's namesake, what a bunc
90 Post contains images Iwok : The SOP will call for a flight to LAX to visit Hollywood plastic surgeons for a little nose job. As more and more accidents happen and more repair ta
91 777WT : Yes it happens. Some drunk cowboy or wannabe shoots at them for target practice. Boeing on the other hand wants more security and even used protectiv
92 Hawker : Since the whole plane will have to be painted, both fuselage and wings and apparently in a base white, I wonder if airlines will go to the trouble of
93 Post contains images AvObserver : "Looks familiar, like another plane I've seen, like a 757." I think you may need glasses , the 757 nose is a lot more rounded. It does remind me of th
94 TransSwede : I have to say that the 787 nose looks great... And I agree that it resembles the Caravelle. And thanks to the comparison pictures that Lemonsoda poste
95 Post contains images 777WT : This is what the 787 nose overlayed to the 737 nose. With the door opening matching and the pax windows close to the 737's, it shows the difference in
96 Jet-lagged : Hmm, I suppose you are right. Personally, I wouldn't call them a 'cowboy'. Or a 'good ole boy' or 'some kid having fun'. I would refer to them as a v
97 SNATH : Great job on the image! Does anyone know the height of the main body of the two planes (I couldn't find this information on Boeing's WWW site)? I won
98 Dazeflight : Well in the Randy Baseler Blog the diameter is said to be 19 feet. How does that compare to the diameter of the B767? ciao Daniel
99 Post contains links and images Dazeflight : Well, I have found the number of 5,03 m or 16,5 feet. So, if there is no significant difference in shape, the comparison should be more like this: " t
100 Cloudy : It is very common to shoot at trains. At every isolated railroad track I have seen there are empty shell casings, shot up signs, and even shot up tre
101 Litz : What baffles me are the people who shoot at tanker cars for fun. Can you imagine what putting a hole in a tank full of liquid propane would do? There
102 Post contains images RIX : Well, looking at the last two pictures (replies 95 and 99), I'd say, 787 cabin windows are WAY larger than ones of 737/757/767. A nice flying machine
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