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User currently offlineAircanada333 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 471 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 12 months 16 hours ago) and read 8590 times:

Hy everyone I was checking for a list of world busiest airport 2004 but I didn't find anything. I was just wondering if someone could make a list of world best airport.

Thanks
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User currently offlineNASOCEANA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 12 months 16 hours ago) and read 8577 times:

I think its London's Heathrow. Not sure the number of daily takeoff and landings.


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User currently offlineAircanada333 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 471 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 12 months 16 hours ago) and read 8571 times:

I heard it was Atlanta or Chicago in case of traffic but I'm not sure please correct me if I'm wrong.


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User currently offlineMaersk737 From Denmark, joined Feb 2004, 702 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 12 months 16 hours ago) and read 8553 times:

Most Passengers in 2004:

Mio = millions

1. Atlanta (83 mio.)
2. Chicago (76 mio.)
3. London/Heatrow (67 mio.)
4. Tokyo/Haneda (62 mio.)
5. Los Angeles (61 mio.)
6. Dallas/Ft. Worth (59 mio.)
7. Paris/Charles de Gaulle (51 mio.)
8. Frankfurt (51 mio.)
9. Amsterdam (43 mio.)
10. Denver (42 mio.)

International passengers 2004

1. London/Heathrow (60 mio.)
2. Paris/Charles de Gaulle (46 mio.)
3. Frankfurt (43 mio.)
4. Amsterdam (42 mio.)
5. Hongkong (36 mio.)
6. Singapore (29 mio.)
7. London/Gatwick (27 mio.)
8. Tokyo/Narita (27 mio.)
9. Bangkok (26 mio.)
10. Seoul (24 mio.)

Cheers

Peter

[Edited 2005-08-26 08:19:40]


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User currently offlineNASOCEANA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 12 months 16 hours ago) and read 8536 times:

Sorry I stand corrected! The world's busiest airport by passenger volume:

1. ATL - 83,573,908 passengers in 2004
2. ORD - 75,373,888
3. LHR - 67,343,960
4. HND - 62,320,968
5. LAX - 60,710,830

the other top 30 can be found here:

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004547.html



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User currently offlineAircanada333 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 471 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 8517 times:

Thanks for all the info.


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User currently offlineNASOCEANA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 8508 times:

ATL has 2,400 daily departures and arrivals.


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User currently offlineAircanada333 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 471 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 8495 times:

YUL my home airport it is about 250 daily departures and landings.
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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26414 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (8 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 8488 times:

Quoting Aircanada333 (Reply 7):
YUL my home airport it is about 250 daily departures and landings.

Including GA and even after the closute of Mirabel to commercial passenger traffic? I doubt YUL is that low.

[Edited 2005-08-26 08:42:08]


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User currently offlineAircanada333 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 471 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 8476 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
Including GA and even after the closute of Mirabel to commercial passenger traffic? I doubt YUL is that low.

No jokes folks just go on www.admtl.com to see.

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User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1304 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 8431 times:

Looking at the figures that Maersk737 posted I conclude that less than a third of the ATL and ORD flights is international. Very interesting indeed..

Especially in Chicago I would have expected that Midway is more taking care of the national flights.



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6882 posts, RR: 63
Reply 11, posted (8 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 8387 times:

"Biggest"? "Busiest"?

These terms are very slippery and must always be defined in terms of criteria used.

LHR often promotes itself as "The World's busiest/biggest international airport." It probably is. But a flight from LHR to CDG or AMS is "international" whereas a flight from JFK to ORD isn't. Is the distinction terribly meaningful?

The numbers of passengers shifted (see some of the replies above) is quite a valid comparison but so would be the number of movements and the two need not correlate. An airport like Hong Kong would have a greater proportion of widebody movements than, say, Charlotte. Both would shift a lot of people but one would record far more movements than the other.

I guess you could even measure and compare airports in terms of revenue. Another way might be the average price paid for a departing ticket!

I may be imagining this but don't I recall that in the mid-1990s USAir made more daily take offs and landings than any other airline? Did that make it the World's busiest airline?

As I say, terms need to be defined very precisely.


User currently offlineYULMRS From France, joined Mar 2005, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 8335 times:

Quoting Aircanada333 (Reply 7):
YUL my home airport it is about 250 daily departures and landings.

What's YUL's passenger volume ?



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User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1209 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 8279 times:

From reply #3, the airport with most passengers is Atlanta. But how many from its 83 million passengers are international ones? (whereas almost 90% of LHR's passengers are international passengers)

User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1304 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 12 months 12 hours ago) and read 8192 times:

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 13):
But how many from its 83 million passengers are international ones?

According to these lists less than 24 million...  Wink



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User currently offlineVlada From Serbia, joined Aug 2005, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 12 months 12 hours ago) and read 8184 times:

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 13):
From reply #3, the airport with most passengers is Atlanta. But how many from its 83 million passengers are international ones? (whereas almost 90% of LHR's passengers are international passengers)

Hi,

The question asked in post #1 is not the same as the threads name.
Do we look for:

a) the busiest international airport (and does this mean the one with the most international pax and/or movements)

or

b)the busiest airport (the one with the most pax and/or movements)

Also, something crossed my mind: Londoners could say, for instance, why not include Gatwick, Luton, City and Stansted also into the London stats? That way, I think they have more than 100 mio. of pax per year, much of them international.

Regards,
Vlada


User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1304 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 8161 times:

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 13):
But how many from its 83 million passengers are international ones?

According to these lists less than 24 million...  Wink



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User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1304 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 8154 times:

Quoting Glareskin (Reply 16):
I think they have more than 100 mio.

I think I have read in a previous thread that they have over 125M !!
In that case numbers 2 and three would probably be New York and Tokyo..



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User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 8153 times:

How would the numbers be if you would say intercontinental traffic iso international?
I don't think you can compare the Netherlands (Schiphol) with ,lets say, JFK and conclude that AMS has more real international traffic as most of it is inside the EU.

My guess would be Narita as being the bussiest intercontinental traffic airport, anybody else have some better numbers?



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User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1304 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 8139 times:

Quoting ArniePie (Reply 18):
My guess would be Narita as being the bussiest intercontinental traffic airport

Why do you think so? Japan isn't a continent on itself!



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 8046 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 11)
"I guess you could even measure and compare airports in terms of revenue. Another way might be the average price paid for a departing ticket!"

Hmm! quite a unique, and interesting, suggestion but in my opinion largely unworkable because how could you possibly correlate/measure it, or relate it to the numerous (almost infinite) variables involved......e.g the average ticket price to exactly where in the world, on which airline, in which class or indeed in which season?

Quoting ArniePie (Reply 18)
"How would the numbers be if you would say intercontinental traffic iso international?
I don't think you can compare the Netherlands (Schiphol) with ,lets say, JFK and conclude that AMS has more real international traffic as most of it is inside the EU.

My guess would be Narita as being the bussiest intercontinental traffic airport, anybody else have some better numbers?"

That suggestion surprises me and, whilst I certainly may be wrong, I would have imagined off-hand that LHR would far outnumber NRT in terms of intercontinental traffic.
However, irrespective of whether traffic is within the EU or not, it is still international so that is an entirely moot point.....by the same token would you describle traffic between Canada/US/Mexico as domestic???


But it's always an interesting debate as to what constitutes the world's 'busiest' airport. If that question is taken literally then surely it doesn't matter whether it's domestic or international traffic.


User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 12 months 8 hours ago) and read 7839 times:

Another way of answering the question is: how many of the flights are international compared to domestic? If you take somewhere like Singapore, that value would be 100% international to 0% domestic.

Geoff M.


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (8 years 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 7770 times:

Quoting Aircanada333 (Reply 7):
YUL my home airport it is about 250 daily departures and landings

I counted about that many departures alone, so that would make 500 arrivals and departures. I suspect that the figure for ATL is for ALL movements, so you would have to add in all the cargo and GA flights.


User currently offlineAircanada333 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 471 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 7665 times:

Quoting YULMRS (Reply 12):
What's YUL's passenger volume ?

11 millions



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User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 12 months 5 hours ago) and read 7607 times:

Quoting Glareskin (Reply 19):
Why do you think so? Japan isn't a continent on itself!



Quoting AirNZ (Reply 20):
That suggestion surprises me and, whilst I certainly may be wrong, I would have imagined off-hand that LHR would far outnumber NRT in terms of intercontinental traffic.
However, irrespective of whether traffic is within the EU or not, it is still international so that is an entirely moot point.....by the same token would you describle traffic between Canada/US/Mexico as domestic???

I know Japan isn't a continent in itself but the way airports are used in the Tokyo area it could very well be true to say that Narita is one of the ,maybe the , bussiests airports for long haul intercontinental traffic.
I suspect LAX and JFK can also be good candidates to take first place.

I do consider Canada and the US as 1 market, also the EU can be considered as 1 market (Shengen) as can be the Middle East region, the former CIS, South East Asia, Australasia, South America,... .



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25 Post contains images Glareskin : Ofcourse this could be true, but it is unlikely. According to the lists in reply 3 London Heathrow has 60M international flights. Suppose half of the
26 Spacecadet : Most of Narita's international traffic goes to other Asian nations. This is continental traffic, even though it is international. So I don't see how
27 Glareskin : Thanks Spacecadet for supporting my statement. But is it true that Narita has more intl. flights than Haneda?
28 Evan767 : And how many times have we not discussed this before?
29 Post contains images Spacecadet : Oh yes, I didn't mean to imply otherwise if that's what I did. I meant that there are probably some Japanese who actually will fly domestically out o
30 Delta717 : It's definitely Key West International (KEYW/EYW).
31 IRelayer : Not true. While Midway is closer to downtown Chicago, it is severly space limited, and it only has two runways, and short one's at that. It is kind o
32 HJAIA : For 2004, ATL did 83,606,583 passengers. This is domestic and international numbers. ATL has moved 43,486,384 passengers from Jan. to June 2005. Once
33 IrishMD11 : A story was told some years ago, that a quarter of the world's 747 aircraft fleet could be seen in LHR in a given timespace of 24 hours... Impressive,
34 Post contains links Pac : this Site has monthly updates..... http://www.aci.aero cheers pac
35 Post contains links Art : In terms of aircraft movements I suspect London Heathrow is the world's busiest international airport. 2004 figures from BAA site: Air transport movem
36 Spark : From what I've read, and countless hours looking at flight schedules, and Heathrow has more intercontinental airport than either JFK, or NRT. Heathrow
37 ER757 : Not unless the Eisenhower has been re-routed! YOu can take it west from the loop but to get to ORD you have to either get off at Manneheim Rd and go
38 Post contains links Art : Oops.. further to my post 35 suggesting Heathrow had the greatest number of movements, I see Atlanta goes way past: Aircraft movements 2004: 915,454 h
39 Philaboy : the worlds best? well you know thats up for debate based on what criterium one follows. I would say for me, the criteria would include accessibility,
40 COEWR777 : Well EWR has 536 daily departures Lga has like 500 daily departures Jfk has 350 or something like that daily departures
41 Glareskin : Either you didn't fly alot around the world or this list must be the world's worst! (exept for a few)
42 Wdleiser : I think of it this way, Atlanta is the worlds busiest domestic airport. It has more domestic flights than any other airport. LHR has the most internat
43 IRelayer : I forget all the expressway names in Chicago, its been so long. Heh. I stand corrected. -IR
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