Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Chinese Govt. And TPE  
User currently offlineBritishmidland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 811 times:

What is the deal with TPE and HKG ... i heard something a while back about not being able to serve both cities with one airline ... example:
QANTAS and their Asian subsidiary that served TPE
T r e v o r

4 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineAl From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (14 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 726 times:

With the politics involved between other Countries and China, the Governments of most countries that had a "designated Flag Carrier" (i.e. - a pseudo instrument of a country by default) found that the Government of China would be offended if their flag carrier served both mainland China and Taiwan. As a result, most designated flag carriers came up with spin offs to appease the Politicians on both sides. In QF's case, they painted up 2 of their fleet in Australia Asia colours, which effectively for all intents and purposes became a seperate airline within an airline, even though nothing else had really changed apart from the paint job. Again in QF's case, once Ansett was allowed to start International operations QF lost their designated flag carrier status due to two Oz carriers now flying International routes, so the Australia Asia brand was killed off and the aircraft reverted back to normal QF livery.
Some countries (USA, Canada for example) had no designated flag carrier so none of their airlines were affected.
Cheers. Al.


User currently offlineBritishmidland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 720 times:

so by that ... DL for instance could fly to TPE and HKG without a hitch ... but QF could not because they were the "flag carrier" if i am taking you correctly, right?

User currently offlineBrissie_lions From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 718 times:

Hong Kong is being administered under it's one country, two system policy.

QANTAS formed Australia Asia Airlines to operate exclusively to TPE from BNE and SYD. After a couple of years operating this route, they merged AAA into the parent company, as half of the flights were being operated with QF aircraft anyway. Australia has a good relationship with mainland China, and as such no longer felt the need to pander to the Chinese government. It is amazing that European airlines such as BA, SR, KL, AF still operate into TPE under *subsidiary* companies.

The main route where what you mentioned isn't the case is into/out of Japan. Japan Air Lines formed Japan Asia Airways to operate flights into Taipei and Kaohsiung, so that the parent airline could continue flying into mainland China. These flights continue today.

The Chinese government demanded of Japan, that only their aircraft would be allowed to operate into Narita Airport, thereby leaving China Airlines operating into Haneda (and still the only foreign carrier operating into HND). CI is on a bonus, as congestion takes it toll at NRT, they are able to increase their services at demand requires, without having the problems of slots.

Also under the political system I mentioned above, flights continue between HKG and TPE/KHH. The mainland Chinese government really could not afford to stop these flights, as the Taiwanese have billions of dollars of investments on the mainland, and the money makes it way thru Hong Kong. The same goes for any other country whos airlines serve both mainland China and Taiwan.


User currently offlineBritishmidland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 712 times:

what about haneda ... int'l airlines can fly in their right? because it was my understanding that NRT was the international airport and HND was the domestic.

Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Chinese Govt To Cancel SIA/China Eastern Deal (?) posted Tue May 29 2007 19:13:51 by Jimyvr
A380 To Visit NRT, SYD And TPE posted Mon May 21 2007 14:42:23 by KL911
HKG And TPE Frequencies posted Mon Feb 10 2003 16:32:25 by Snoopy
AA Bringing Back SJC-CDG And Tpe? posted Sun Apr 21 2002 06:01:59 by SJCguy
NW/DTW-CDG, And DTW-KIX-TPE To Be Suspended posted Fri Nov 7 2008 22:09:39 by Jetjack74
AZ And The Incoming Italian Govt posted Thu Apr 13 2006 22:48:00 by Nycfly75
Chinese Competition Against 737 And 320 posted Tue Sep 20 2005 22:40:34 by David31998
BA And AKL/KUL/MNL/TPE posted Thu Feb 24 2005 13:54:58 by United Airline
PIA Allowed To Buy 4 777s And 3 A340s - Pak Govt posted Sat Apr 27 2002 16:00:44 by GF-A330
BA To Cancel HKG-MNL And HKG-TPE? posted Wed Dec 12 2001 06:47:15 by Hkgspotter1