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AirTran Officially Announces Service To Cancun!  
User currently offlineAirplanePeanut From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 452 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

http://airtran.com/aboutus/cancunpress.jsp

Looks like there using there 73G's, too.

  Peanut

[Edited 2005-08-28 17:15:48]


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User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 933 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4574 times:
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By departing ATL at 0910, they have essentially eliminated connection possibilities from much of their outlying network. For the most part, even the earliest departures for ATL will not arrive in time to connect to the CUN flight.
Poor thinking, IMO.


User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

Prediction:

You will not get one credible poster complaining about Airtran starting service into a "Delta" market. You will not hear Delta Mgt complaining about how Airtran is trashing the market.

Yet you get multiple threads about poor Airtran in Bloomington and other former exclusive Airtran markets and how Delta is being mean to them..LOL

[Edited 2005-08-28 17:27:55]

User currently offlineDfwagt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 80 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4537 times:

I work for a major whose hub is now being looked at very hard by FL, and judging by the amount of flts they have there, I say good for them. However, I think they may get surprised at how much money it may cost them to operate down there. I could be wrong. Anyone wonder why WN has not started svc to some destinations in Mexico? Seems to me they should be ok down there. Just a though.

User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

Quoting Dfwagt (Reply 3):
Anyone wonder why WN has not started svc to some destinations in Mexico? Seems to me they should be ok down there

Not really, it is not their business model. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
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User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4496 times:

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 1):
By departing ATL at 0910, they have essentially eliminated connection possibilities from much of their outlying network. For the most part, even the earliest departures for ATL will not arrive in time to connect to the CUN flight.
Poor thinking, IMO.

Actually, many of there cities have 6am departures into Atlanta which means they can in fact connect to the Cancun flight.


User currently offlineWeb From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4420 times:

This is effectively the opening of the Caribbean to FL, and I'm sure more such leisure destinations will soon be announced. FL has done a good job of covering all continental vacation destinations, and now they're pulling an NK and opening up some Lat Am destinations. Good for them for looking into some int'l markets.


Next flight: GRR-ORD-PDX-SEA-ORD-GRR
User currently offlineNAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4199 times:

Great,

Another Peanuts and soft drink airline to Mexico. Just
got back from Puerto Vallarta on American to ORD and
probably one of the worse services I have ever experienced.

What is happening to the US airline industry??


User currently offlineKevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1058 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4192 times:

Quoting NAVEGA (Reply 7):
What is happening to the US airline industry??

Hi, and welcome to planet Earth. Are you new here or just been away the past 4 years?  Wink



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User currently offlineLegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4127 times:

Quoting NAVEGA (Reply 7):
Puerto Vallarta on American to ORD and
probably one of the worse services I have ever experienced

Have you tried CAL yet?



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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4086 times:
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Quoting Legacytravel (Reply 9):

Have you tried CAL yet?

I second that question!

Good for AirTran. They have always kind of played "under the radar" and with this announcement, Im sure we will see some more international expansion to come. CUN is also a great use of their 73Gs.

Great news- looking foward to it!

JBLU


User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2629 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4088 times:

Quoting NAVEGA (Reply 7):
Great,

Another Peanuts and soft drink airline to Mexico. Just
got back from Puerto Vallarta on American to ORD and
probably one of the worse services I have ever experienced.

What is happening to the US airline industry??

What specifically was so bad?

I just flew AA to Mexico and had a great experience.

[Edited 2005-08-29 02:51:43]


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User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4119 times:

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 1):
By departing ATL at 0910, they have essentially eliminated connection possibilities from much of their outlying network. For the most part, even the earliest departures for ATL will not arrive in time to connect to the CUN flight.
Poor thinking, IMO.

The following cities will have flights timed to connect with the CUN departure:

CAK
BWI
BMI
BUF
CLT
MDW
DFW
DAY
FNT
FLL
HOU
IND
JAX
LAS
LAX
MEM
DTW
MLI
LGA
EWR
PHF
MCO
PHL
PIT
RDU
RIC
ROC
SFO
TPA
DCA
IAD

The following will NOT have connection opportunities:

BOS
DEN
FPO
RSW
GPT
MCI
MIA
MKE
MSP
MSY
PNS
ICT
PBI
SAV
SRQ

Hardly seems like most of the "outlying network" to me...

Travis


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3977 times:

"I work for a major whose hub is now being looked at very hard by FL,"

Looked at hard for.......

another hub?
starting operations?
more cancun flights?

PHX, SEA,?

could you elaborate?


User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5087 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3924 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 13):
could you elaborate?

Given that his title is DFWAGT, I just AAsumed we knew who he worked for.


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3818 times:

""I work for a major whose hub is now being looked at very hard by FL,""

I didn't pay attention to the authors name, but now I see he means DFW. Does that message mean that FL is looking to add or shrink at DFW. With the wright amendment possibly going away, maybe opportunity is better elsewhere.


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3410 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3803 times:

FYI: FL is delaying the start of the Saturday only TPA-CUN from 12/17/05 to 3/4/06...

User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

When is the peak time down there? I would think March would capture more of the spring break crowd.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32573 posts, RR: 72
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3730 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 17):
When is the peak time down there? I would think March would capture more of the spring break crowd

Peak is around March, though it is a year-round destination, it only really slows down in late August and September.



a.
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

Quoting NAVEGA (Reply 7):
Another Peanuts and soft drink airline to Mexico. Just
got back from Puerto Vallarta on American to ORD and
probably one of the worse services I have ever experienced.

Given fuel prices in their relationship to airfares (especially to CUN and other leisure destinations in Mexico), I'm surprised airlines aren't offering hard benches with no seat backs in coach.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

Good for FL. I hope it goes well for them.

Although I have to say not having the entire network able to connect on the flight is a rather odd thing to hear about, especially from major cities like DEN and MSP, MKE, and some of the others listed.



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9464 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3612 times:

Are the 73Gs overwater equiped? I know that a lot of their planes were not equipped with life vests and other requirements (at least I heard that), and thus required them to stay within gliding distance of the shore. I know CUN does not require ETOPS, but will modifications need to be made, or are they using 737s instead of 717s because they equipped the 737s with overwater equipment from the start?


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User currently offline717-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 20):
Although I have to say not having the entire network able to connect on the flight is a rather odd thing to hear about, especially from major cities like DEN and MSP, MKE, and some of the others listed.

For FL to offer connex from those cities especially DEN, the originating
flight would have to leave there no later than 0300L to make it to ATL
and have legal connection time there to make the CUN flight. I remember
working at RDU and pax had trouble getting up and making our 0600
originating flight to ATL.



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User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 933 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3491 times:
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Quoting Spinkid (Reply 5):
Actually, many of there cities have 6am departures into Atlanta which means they can in fact connect to the Cancun flight.

Of course, I checked to see if my town of BOS had an early flight, and it did not. Sorry to have generalized.


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24963 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3478 times:
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Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 20):
especially from major cities like DEN

Given the amount of non-stop service available DEN/CUN, I would think Airtran - sensibly - has decided not to bother about those few (if any) possible connecting pax.

cheers

mariner



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25 PlanesNTrains : Wow, what a surprise comment, Padcrasher. At least you waited to be the 2nd reply. Delta flies nonstop to, what, 211 cities from ATL now? It isn't po
26 Juventus : What about Puerto Vallarta, Cabo San Lucas, Cozumel, Acapulco. Everybody seems to be interested on CUN. However, I'm happy for Airtran...
27 Travatl : All of AirTran's 717s and 73Gs are now equipped with life vests. - Travis
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