Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Whats The Next Step For Aer Lingus?  
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5368 times:

Well Dermot Mannion is in his seat now and EI could have an interesting year ahead. Any opinions on these topics welcome:

1. New Long haul routes. New routes will be announced soon pending the imminent conclusion of a deal that will resolve crewing issues on future L-H routes (ie fly anywhere). South Africa (cape town), Dubai and Hong Kong are roumered to be first in line. And will this deal save the Orlando or Washington routes aswell? Can the right aircraft be acquired in time and what type should it be (332s most likley)?

2. EIs Service product. Its dire. Another roumer that DM is seriously considering an IFE update on the 330s. Any thoughts?

3. More 320s? With the last 320 on order due to be delivered in jan can we presume that the remaining options will be taken soon, possibly some 319s or even 318s?

4. New short haul routes - which routes will be next? Id like to see Moscow, Gdansk, Antalya, Stockolm, Helsinki and Oslo to start. Maybe some routes from Belfast also?

5. (part) Privatisation, will it happen in the next year?

26 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineVega From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5328 times:

Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):



Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
Any opinions on these topics welcome:

1. New Long haul routes

AerLingus and the Irish Government have been pushing for several years for rights to PHL, but have always been denied. They especially got roiled when USAirways got the route. Wonder if they'll push for it again.


User currently offlineGearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5300 times:

Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
1. New Long haul routes. New routes will be announced soon pending the imminent conclusion of a deal that will resolve crewing issues on future L-H routes (ie fly anywhere). South Africa (cape town), Dubai and Hong Kong are roumered to be first in line. And will this deal save the Orlando or Washington routes aswell? Can the right aircraft be acquired in time and what type should it be (332s most likley)?

Why not, B777's would be ideal for any of them but would they get delivery slots anytime soon? Maybe the A345 would work well also.

Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
2. EIs Service product. Its dire. Another roumer that DM is seriously considering an IFE update on the 330s. Any thoughts?

If they are going to compete to Dubai, Hong Kong or Cape Town, I would say they will have to.

Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
5. (part) Privatisation, will it happen in the next year?

Best not to hold yer breath on this one!

GU



I have no memory of this place.
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5298 times:

Quoting Vega (Reply 1):

AerLingus and the Irish Government have been pushing for several years for rights to PHL, but have always been denied. They especially got roiled when USAirways got the route. Wonder if they'll push for it again.

Miami and San Francsico are the ones they have been pushing for, and have been denied. With US Airways flying to Ireland, I doubt Aer Lingus is still intrested.



a.
User currently offlineGearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5242 times:

Quoting Vega (Reply 1):
AerLingus and the Irish Government have been pushing for several years for rights to PHL, but have always been denied

Would that have anything to do with the Shannon stopover rule? I had heard that YYZ is closed to EI for the same reason.

GU



I have no memory of this place.
User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5234 times:

There were a few articles on EI in last weeks Irish papers. One was discussing the Business class upgrade which is needed if EI are to compete on the Transatlantic routes with SA)">CO and SA)">AA following SA)">AA's annoucement of their new C Class product. The impression given in the article by DM was that an upgrade is on the cards, but not before the new long-haul fleet is decided upon. Once the decision on the A350/B787 has been made and a delivery timetable agreed (at this stage it's looking like 2010/2011 for either aircraft I'd say) the current fleet will get a refurbishment.

The 2nd article (outlined above) says new long-haul routes are on the cards once crews contracts have been agreed with the unions. South Africa and the MiddleEast were the first to be rumoured, and it's long been known that EI would like to also serve SFO, DFW and MIA (although with Orlando in the picture, MIA may not be an option they are looking at now)

The article also felt that the current 'Charter' service which operates to Orlando could be put into place elsewhere to begin with, certainly for the extra US routes to get around the 5 gateway clause.

As regards fleet, they'd need some extra aircraft if they wanted to compete on MiddleEast or SA routes, so my guess is extra A330-200's, I'd also like to see them give back the original A330-300 aircraft and lease the 300X version, so they could upgrade economy to PTV on all the aircraft. The current aircraft have too severe a payload restriction for the ORD route if the PTV's were installed on the 300 series, so they need to standardise a bit more, but not sure how much they'd be charged to upgrade/break the leases.

That is all that is going around at the moment, if anything else comes up, will pass on.

Rgds



Aircraft I've flown: A300/A310/A320/A321/A330/A340/B727/B732/B733/B734/B735/B738/B741/B742/B744/DC10/MD80/IL62/Bae146/AR
User currently offlineIADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5213 times:

Pilot21,
How would they be able to get around the 5 gateway clause by operating "charters" If the flight shows as a regular scheduled flight, how can it be considered a charter?


User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

IADLHR

My understanding (and those who know more of the technical jargon, or exact language in the IAA handbook can help) but a Charter flight is exactly what it says it is, the aircraft is chartered by EI to itself (or more usually to a travel company)to operate a route flying tourists from Dublin to Orlando, unlike a schedule aircraft if no passengers turn up or book, EI doesn't have to let the aircraft go (and the travel company is responsible for filling it). I think originally you had to book the flights as a package with EI vacations (although you can buy just seats on the aircraft now on their website). I'm sure there is somewhere on the web that lists the exact differences in FAA or IAA terms between schedule and charter flights, but above is a basic idea. The flight also is direct DUB-Orlando, no Shannon stop-over. Sorry I can't expand anymore at the moment.

(I also heard somewhere in the old days that when charters were full, they just took off, unlike schedule flights which obviously have fixed departure times, but today that is a bit harder)



Aircraft I've flown: A300/A310/A320/A321/A330/A340/B727/B732/B733/B734/B735/B738/B741/B742/B744/DC10/MD80/IL62/Bae146/AR
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5080 times:

Quoting Gearup (Reply 2):
Why not, B777's would be ideal for any of them but would they get delivery slots anytime soon? Maybe the A345 would work well also.

DUBs runway is only 2637 metres so the 345 is out I think. I agree that the 772 is a more suitable plane for planned long haul routes but the leases have yet to expire on some of the 330s.

Quoting Vega (Reply 1):
AerLingus and the Irish Government have been pushing for several years for rights to PHL, but have always been denied. They especially got roiled when USAirways got the route. Wonder if they'll push for it again.

EI are only permitted access to 5 US destinatioons under the current bi lateral deal with the US so until that changes there will be no additional US routes for EI.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
Miami and San Francsico are the ones they have been pushing for, and have been denied. With US Airways flying to Ireland, I doubt Aer Lingus is still intrested.

Former CEO Willie Walsh publically said that when the bi lateral is sorted, he would launch 10 new routes to the US from DUB. Dallas, Philli, Miami, San Fran, San Jose, St Louis, Denver(I think), and Seattle were mentioned.

Quoting Gearup (Reply 4):
Would that have anything to do with the Shannon stopover rule? I had heard that YYZ is closed to EI for the same reason.

Yes. It looks like practically all canadian destinations are closed to EI under the agreement.


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

Bring back Toulouse for the winter season (sorry, I'm ranting... but I raelly want this route back). Looked through traffic statistics on Toulouse airport website and Aer Lingus (with the excption of two months) has enjoyed continual passenger growth on the TLD-DUB route since its inaugurations two years ago. But they're doing away with it for the winter season... which I don't understand as TLS is a key point of access for winter skiing in the French/Spanish Pyrenees and Andorra. Clearly EI missed out on this market. For example, in January 2005, 6.077 pax in total were transported DUB-TLS-DUB by the charter carriers while EI only managed 1.629 pax. For July 05 statistics, EI carried 5.363 passengers on the route, a 34.7% increase on July 04. What I don't understand about this route being chopped forthe winter is the following. A. I live here and like flying EI back home (ok, I suppose that's not top on the list of EI's chief of operations...). B. Passenger traffic is continually growing at a rate of between 18 and 35% per month compared to the previous year on the route, thus the public is obviously discovering the route and taking advantage of it (I've always noted a healthy mix of both French and Irish pax on this route). C. TLS is being replaced with BOD (Bordeaux) for the winter season, thus going into direct competition with the well established AF flights between BOD and DUB and their superior service product. D. Has FR's arrival on the DUB-Carcassonne and DUB-Biarritz routes so severly affected EI?

Continuing with my personal rant on TLS, could this just show the need for EI to exercise their options on new 320's and replace them with 319's or 318's, as clearly their 320's are just to big to sustain a lot of the lest dense routes out of season. I've always thought EI should have gone for some of these smaller versions.

While I love flying EI and find their crews to be friendly and professional (in Europe anyway), and I don't really mind paying for food onboard, I really think they need to rethink their service product (identity crisis) throughout their network. Reintroduce Business class is a must I believe. I know firsthand that many foreign business people (CEO's) based in Dublin have complained about this to the IDA and said they will give their business to foreign carriers.

DUB needs to be updated,modernised, tidied up URGENTLY. The shambles created by Aer Rianta and today the DAA needs to be addressed immediately. You know, arriving in DUB from any other EU airport (I frequent anyway) is like arriving in a third-world ... don't know what to call it as the current terminal doesn't warrent to be called an 'international airport' except for the fact that their are planes there flying to foreign lands!

At least the slowly seem to be reinstating their FF programme, as after being told to p**s off by them last year, I recentlyreceived a new Gold Circle card in the post much to me surprise.

Improve their telephone booking system. Sorry if any of you work for the UK based company now handling EI reservations, but service has dropped 1000% since it was removed from Ireland. But, ok, recently I've noticed a small improvement.

Take the website down and build a new one which actually looks as if it was designed by someone over the age of 10! Have you seen their latest addidtion, you can now choose your country of origin... but it's still in English...yet you can book in Frenchand German. What a joke. Sure I'm a traslator, I'd be happy if they sent some work my way!

And on a sad note, in the last two weeks, I notice the departure/arrival monitors at TLS have replaced the classice EI logo with the new and horrible aerlingus.com... in red and yellow, colours whichhave nothing to do with the general corporate image.

My best wished to Mannion... I have a lot of hope in you!



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4996 times:

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
And on a sad note, in the last two weeks, I notice the departure/arrival monitors at TLS have replaced the classice EI logo with the new and horrible aerlingus.com... in red and yellow, colours whichhave nothing to do with the general corporate image

I hope and believe Mannion will eventually drop the current website and invest in a proper one. Any thoughts on what short haul routes we can expect next? Im hoping for SVO and more eastern european and scandanavian routes - Helsinki, Oslo, Stockolm, Tallin, Vilnius, Sophia, Gdansk, Larnaca, Antalya, Istalbul, and maybe Aberdeen and Newcastle


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6334 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4909 times:

Their long-haul service product is bad and needs help but I think it will improve soon. I was on a flight a few days ago (short-haul) and the service was great, one of the best I have had with a short-haul flight on any airline. I agree that SVO and other eastern european routes would be good for Aer Lingus.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4873 times:

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 5):
and it's long been known that EI would like to also serve SFO, DFW and MIA (although with Orlando in the picture, MIA may not be an option they are looking at now)

If they could fly to Miami, Orlando would not be in the picture. There is a lot more money to be made flying scheduled service to Miami than charters to Orlando.



a.
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6334 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

While on an Aer Lingus flight last week me and my parents got talking to an Aer Lingus male F/A he was saying that he met DM. He also mentioned that he hates the dot com thing and many other Aer Lingus workers hate it. DM is meant to be a great guy and has big plans for the airline. I don't know how trust worthy he is but it was a nice chat.

User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4819 times:

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 13):
While on an Aer Lingus flight last week me and my parents got talking to an Aer Lingus male F/A he was saying that he met DM. He also mentioned that he hates the dot com thing and many other Aer Lingus workers hate it. DM is meant to be a great guy and has big plans for the airline. I don't know how trust worthy he is but it was a nice chat.

I read that in your flight report which was interesting. DM has already proven himself in the aviation business, so I'm sure he's a great guy with excellent plans for EI. But the big question is, will he be able to pursue his plans with good auld Bertie on the scene?



Long live Aer Lingus!
User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6334 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4764 times:

True, he might be a nice guy I just hope his plans go ahead and Aer Lingus can grow and double their size in another four years, just like what they have done these past four.

User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 774 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4758 times:

On issue 1 - new long haul routes. I can see HKG and CPT being the major focus. CPT will have to be announced soon though if EI are to capitalise on the European winter traffic. HKG looks like the best Asian option with the CX connections into Asia, Australia and New Zealand, not to mention the QF connections into oz. As for new US routes, I personally see MIA as being the most important so as to enable connections throughout the carribean and latin america with LA and AA. But DFW would fulfill that somewhat too. And SFO has long been hunted by EI but I can see UA getting there first, perhaps via IAD!!

As for long haul fleet expansion, I can see EI going with Boeing. Sign a deal for 787s and get Boeing to supply 777s in the mean time. Perfect solution both now and in the future.

Issue 2 - service. Business class needs a major investment but I cant see any change in economy on short haul routes. IFE and catering on the long haul routes does need to be changed though, especially if routes to Asia are opened when you consider the type of carrier they will be competing against - CX, SQ etc.

Issue 3 - more A320s. Yes I can see them adding some more A320s and 321s but 318s are totally out, 319s unlikely I would imagine too. They are just too small.

Issue 4 - New short haul routes. I think this will depend somewhat on the new longhaul routes. If new US routes are announced then it is possible that new short haul flights will be announced, especially from UK provincial cities like Newcastle so as to connect to their long haul routes rather than BA through LHR. But I think Helsinki could go year round, probably code shared with AY. And SVO is a real possibility.

I think one thing also has to be mentioned - EI codeshares. They need to work more closely with their OneWorld partners. There should be codeshares on more EI routes to Spain with IB. Why not codeshare on the AA routes to america? More BA codeshares to the UK like Bristol and LPL?



Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4684 times:

Quoting EIRules (Reply 16):
On issue 1 - new long haul routes. I can see HKG and CPT being the major focus. CPT will have to be announced soon though if EI are to capitalise on the European winter traffic. HKG looks like the best Asian option with the CX connections into Asia, Australia and New Zealand, not to mention the QF connections into oz. As for new US routes, I personally see MIA as being the most important so as to enable connections throughout the carribean and latin america with LA and AA. But DFW would fulfill that somewhat too. And SFO has long been hunted by EI but I can see UA getting there first, perhaps via IAD!!

Well said.

Quoting EIRules (Reply 16):
As for long haul fleet expansion, I can see EI going with Boeing. Sign a deal for 787s and get Boeing to supply 777s in the mean time. Perfect solution both now and in the future

IMO Boing is the most suitable option right now. A340s are out due to DUBs stupidly short runway. And even further 332s are doubtful for some new long haul routes, such as Sinapore. The A350 would be perfect but is too far away. The roumered IFE upgrade would also cast doubt on the 333s legs from DUB - ORD.
Once the leases expire on the current 333s, replace them with 772s and the 787 would be ideal to launch thinner USA routes in the future (from a lessor that currently holds ordes).

Quoting EIRules (Reply 16):
Yes I can see them adding some more A320s and 321s but 318s are totally out, 319s unlikely I would imagine too. They are just too small.

Maybe the 318 is unlikley but why not a few 319s? EI originally had 4 319s on order and I think further new continental routes will be difficult to sustain without the 737s smaller capacity. The 735s were incredibly useful in proving new european routes in the past few years. There are not many EI routes where 321s can be filled regularly.

Im wondering why SVO has not been launchd yet. I was told Skynet still held the operating rights to the DUB-SVO route last time I checked but do the still hold them? (Or does SU?)


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12436 posts, RR: 37
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4594 times:

DM* certainly has his work cut out for him. I think one of the biggest challenges he (as his predecessors have done) faces is dealing with the Irish govt, the single biggest obstacle to the airline's success. If you look at the main obstacles facing EI:
- Regulatory: the stopover undermines growth prospects to the US and Canada.
- Infrastructural: Dublin Airport, its main base - not to put too fine a point on it, a "dive". Also, runway issues, as mentioned above.

So, the govt wants to sell EI, but has undermined the airline's long haul growth prospects - and don't think the current minister is going to do much. With due respect to the man, he is not a patch on his predecessor, who was quite dynamic, but was pulled from the job and demoted; the current minister owes his political skin to the Taoiseach, which is why he won't rock the boat and there's sod all chance of Ahern doing anything positive for aviation. Against that background, not to mention outside factors like the price of oil, things don't look great for EI right now. However, ther eis certainly hope.

However, there is a lot DM can do; firstly, morale was shot to pieces under the old management, culminating in a leaked memo which talked of ways to get rid of staff by making working conditions less pleasant (some very petty things were mentioned). Without morale and a good team spirit, the airline's future is dim; that needs to be addressed, even before the service product. Certainly, the long haul product is badly in need of updating, but without good morale among the crew, with good service arising from that, there's a limit to what can be achieved. If EI wants to expand into Asia, it must realise that a bad reputation spreads quickly. If you go for the cheap end of the market, you can fill seats, but you won't get the yields and you certainly won't get the high revenue traffic (at least not more than once!)

As for aircraft, I think the price of oil may influence the airline's decision, in that it will want a larger aircraft. Basically, it will be looking at the best possible seat mile costs and I certainly wouldn't rule out EI going down the EK route and looking at 10 abreast 777s.

(*This always reminds me of an old British comic cartoon hero, Danger Mouse! Maybe he has an assistant called Penfold!)


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 17 hours ago) and read 4504 times:

Does anybody have any idea of when the required funding will be in place for a new long haul fleet? And when do the leases expire on the leased 330s? Maybe the possibility of 777s will come around then.

User currently offlineWidebody From Ireland, joined Aug 2000, 1152 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (9 years 17 hours ago) and read 4472 times:

Any ideas on expansion from airports other than DUB? Ryanair are talking up a hub in ORK, with expansion to 4 or 5 different countries. Is EI missing something?

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6334 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (9 years 16 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

Aer Lingus are expanding from Cork. This year 5 new routes have been introduced from there.

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4110 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 16 hours ago) and read 4430 times:

I like Aer Lingus, having used them several times on the Boston routes. This isn't pointed at Aer Lingus directly, but why does there have to be a 'next step' for an airline? Why can't it be what it is? When a carrier goes off in search of new routes and new planes, invariably many of those efforts fail and they retrench...back to where they were before. I would love to see the Shamrock spread its wings...but not to the detriment of other routes and the health of the carrier overall.

Chris in NH


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 15 hours ago) and read 4402 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 22):
This isn't pointed at Aer Lingus directly, but why does there have to be a 'next step' for an airline

I just brought it up because EIs new CEO, Dermot Mannion (ex emirates) apparently has some big plans and changes in store for the airline. There are new long haul routes planned (aswell as new short haul), a new long haul order, lots of roumers going around, ect. This will hopefully continue on from the fast expansion and success that EI has experienced under Willie Walsh (former CEO)


User currently offlineToulouse From Switzerland, joined Apr 2005, 2758 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (9 years 14 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

HaHaHa... sorry a.netters but I'm back with my rant on EI dropping DUB-TLS for the winter season. I just got an email from Aer Lingus about their great fares to airports serving great ski areas.

They start off with Andorra, served by EI from Barcelona and Bordeaux. I mean, come on, I have never heard of BOD as an ideally located airport for skiing. BCN I can accept (204 km. from Soldeu in Andorra for example). BOD is over 400 km. from Soldeu and TLS (the airport chosen by other ski charter airlines) is the closest at 175 km, and offers direct bus links between TLS airport and the ski resorts in Andorra. And the funniest thing, to take the ideal route to get from BOD to Andorra, you have to go via.... where? Yes, you guessed it...... TOULOUSE!!!

Anyway, sorry for this as I'm sure 99% of you couldn't give a damn!

Have a good day!



Long live Aer Lingus!
25 Kaitak : I am very hopeful that this December will see a breakthrough on the EU/US deal and with fuel becoming so costly, I think airlines will be putting on c
26 Shamrock350 : I also noticed at the Heathrow check-in that there is no longer any Irish or even Aer Lingus workers at the desks, I was greeted with a young woman in
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
What Would Be The Logical Next Step For Allegiant posted Sun Nov 13 2005 15:26:06 by Vfw614
The Next Step Beyond Cfrp - Nanotubes? posted Thu Nov 16 2006 21:30:09 by N328KF
Ryanair Launches Takeover Bid For Aer Lingus posted Thu Oct 5 2006 09:25:08 by Cxsjr
More 'Buses For Aer Lingus posted Mon May 1 2006 13:28:33 by EI321
When's The Next B738 For Garuda? posted Tue Mar 14 2006 11:13:32 by GIA
Whats The Starting Pay For A GF Flight Attendant? posted Thu Feb 2 2006 18:47:46 by Malaysia
Whats The Next Merger? Rumors? posted Sun Sep 4 2005 19:47:12 by Garri767
After A380 Ceremony...What's The Next Step? posted Wed Jan 19 2005 14:55:47 by MEA321
Ryanair's O'Leary To Bid For Aer Lingus posted Mon Jul 12 2004 13:23:57 by Widebody
Three New US Routes For Aer Lingus? posted Thu Mar 18 2004 18:39:08 by Kaitak