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Charging For Toilets On Board?  
User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8763 times:

Apologies if this has already been covered, did a search but revealed nothing:

From ABTN this morning...

Quote:
INCIDENTALLY: Have you got a penny for the loo!

Did you hear the story of a well-known airline personality on a recent trip to Scandinavia? Going into a major departmental store he was charged the equivalent of 20p for the use of the restroom.

He ranted and raved, said he didn’t have any of their “worthless”
currency and generally made a complete ass of himself.

We now hear rumours that his airline is considering charging for use of the loos. When asked by an enquiring journalist whether this was true or not he replied:

“I don’t care a monkey about the f_ _g passengers. I am thinking of taking out the bogs altogether. Four more seats for me to sell!”
Sophisticated man.

Anybody else likewise have a good idea who this "well known airline personality" could be? Only one candidate imo!

Noel.

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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8735 times:

O`Leary! Who else?

Axel

[Edited 2005-08-30 10:20:08]


Wer nichts weiss muss alles glauben
User currently offlineSamair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8724 times:

could this have somthing to do with ryanair by anychance??


the captain has now dimmed the lights for take off this is a routine procedure for flights during the hours of darkness!
User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8722 times:

I would say definitely MOL.

20p to use the toilet in the Scandanavian department store is quite reasonable. It is 20p to use any toilet at most British rail stations, and Harrods department store in Knightsbridge, London charges £2, albeit they do let you use some after shave.



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3224 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8713 times:

I think its time to offically rename this company.

Wrotten Air?

As for no Loo's? Well that could make some sense but wait until
5 year old piss themselves or old ppl throw up.... that's gonna cost more
revenue in terms of lost passengers and cleaning than the extra seats will gain.

That and some governments have laws about not providing staff with Toilets... in some countries its a crime, so, that's Jail time.


User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8668 times:

Back to the topic. Then I think that they should arrange for the lavs to be returned to a neat aspect between every use. That's the least I'd expect if I got to pay for it. It might cost them a lot to have TAs (Toilet Attendants) to roster on every flight though. LOL!  Wink


I want the European Union flag on airliners.net!
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12278 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8549 times:
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Just imange all the passengers rusing to the toilets in the terminal after landing

User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3085 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8541 times:

For us North Americans just the thought of having to pay for a public washroom is astonishing.....I just do not see it catching on here.

And then people saying such a price is reasonable is even scarier....

GS



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineRedDragon From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1135 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8506 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 7):
For us North Americans just the thought of having to pay for a public washroom is astonishing.....I just do not see it catching on here.

It's pretty rare over here in general - you only really see it in some railway (and bus) stations, some old public toilets (although I can't imagine there are many left... they used to cost all of a penny or two, hence the expression) and, evidently, Harrods. Rahh!*

Rich



*Note that Rahh /= Rhaa. So there.


User currently offlineDsa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8504 times:

Not having toilets or charging for use of toilets in a confined space is a human rights violation I think!

Happy Posting!

DSA


User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8401 times:

Quoting RedDragon (Reply 8):
It's pretty rare over here in general - you only really see it in some railway (and bus) stations, some old public toilets

Suggest that you come down to London and the South East of England. In Brighton, the council has closed all public conveniences and replaced them with individual units (like a large phone box minus windows) that clean themselves after each use, and the charge to use them is 20p. Many of these "Super Loos" can also be found in London. Even many larger public conveniences that are now left in the centre of London have an admission fee of 20p.



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineGBan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8397 times:

Hopefully they don't forget to change the conditions of carriage when starting to charge for use of toilets.

Like some did for food:

Flybe Bans Passengers Bringing Food Onboard! (by Trb10 Aug 21 2005 in Civil Aviation)

Otherwise people might start to bring their own toilets.


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8379 times:

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryanair started charging!

Rob!  Smile


User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8345 times:

Or just fly low but leave the back door open a crack!!  Wink

I'm sure MOL just says these things so everyone starts talking about FR again. No such thing as bad publicity and all that. I think he should get Ozzy to do his PR !!



Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8316 times:

I remember it was always a joke in our family if someone had flown on a crappy plane they would say "it wasn't bad but the outside toilet was a bit windy"...looks like this old saying could come true!

Quoting GBan (Reply 11):
Otherwise people might start to bring their own toilets

I can just see MOL offering "Little Johns" or even these babies - for £10 a head on top of your fare:
http://www.transair.co.uk/product4.asp?SID=2&Product_ID=1005

 crazy 

Noel.


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3759 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8269 times:

Ryanair already have a wheelchair charge, they will just intoduce a toilet charge as part of the Taxes, Fees and Charges. They then collect the charge irrespective of whether the toilet is used or not and of course they collect it if the passenger does not fly and it wouldn't be refundable under any circumstance.

User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8231 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 7):
For us North Americans just the thought of having to pay for a public washroom is astonishing.....I just do not see it catching on here.

I agree on that as well. I also find it shocking how some airlines in the US and Canada charging for beverages(non-acoholic). I can see them charging for snacks, but when I take a flight, I at least expect a beverage(non-alcoholic) without having to pay for it.

-Jeff M


User currently offlineGeorgiaAME From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 994 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8203 times:

If I knew in advance that the price of my ticket was lowered by 5GBP, but that I would be charged 20p to use the loo, I would have no (major) problem.

However, there are several airlines that charge me $5. for a glass of alcoholic swill crossing the pond. Guess what? I no longer fly with them! Considering that a cheap seat runs about $550. rt during low season, that $5 charge has lost them a $550. passenger. So what is the likelihood that I will be flying an airline that charges for the toilet?

Economics 102



"Trust, but verify!" An old Russian proverb, quoted often by a modern American hero
User currently offlineAisak From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 763 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8152 times:

How many lavatories does a FR 738 have? Just curious

User currently offlineSkyguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8061 times:

There were rumours recently that AA was considering installing doors with coin locks on the toilets, and charging 50c per visit. Also to charge passengers a dollar for air-sickness bags. The airline is SO broke that they are thinking of absolutely any ideas to make a buck, they can hardly afford to pay their employees decent wages, no wonder they are always in a foul mood.
One employee debated whether FA's should be allowed to collect tips from passengers to supplement their wages.
None of these ideas took-off though.



"Those who talk, do not know, and those who know, do not talk."
User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8036 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 7):
For us North Americans just the thought of having to pay for a public washroom is astonishing.....I just do not see it catching on here.

it's quite normal in The Netherlands (even some McDonalds are doing it) and I wonder why it has taken anyone that long to see revenue in this.

Quote:
I am thinking of taking out the bogs altogether. Four more seats for me to sell!”

I wonder if this is possible as drinking result often in going to the toilet, and I sure can't think of an airline who doesn't want to sell drinks


User currently offlineMeridian From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8008 times:

Just thinking aloud here. What if Ryanair takes the toilets out, but instead of 4 extra seats put a bed in there and charge "customers" ,or whatever the delightful Mr O'Leary calls us these days, to join the mile high club. Hmmm. Potential for investment there.  puckerup 


I have to talk to myself. No-one else listens!
User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7982 times:

Has anyone considered what happens if someone shows up without any cash or without change? What do they do? Should they piss on themselves? Piss on the seat?

User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7951 times:

this is what is called "Pay as you Go"
 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 



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User currently offlineSkyguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7919 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 22):
Has anyone considered what happens if someone shows up without any cash or without change? What do they do? Should they piss on themselves? Piss on the seat?

In a bottle. Or ask other pax for help with change.



"Those who talk, do not know, and those who know, do not talk."
25 TimRees : Of course EZY have fewer toilets on their aircraft as research has shown that as passengers eat/drink less on LCC (as they have to pay for it) they ne
26 Newark777 : If I found a public place with a pay-bathroom, I would happily find the manager's office or the office of someone in charge, and piss all over. Police
27 AirRyan : Just shit on the seat and drop a few coins in the pile when your done - trust me, they'll get the message! Pay toilets are the ultimate in bull&shit![
28 Noelg : ROTFLMAO!!!! That's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time - welcome to my respected users list! Noel.
29 Post contains images SNATH : I lived in the UK for 11 years and I actually didn't have much of a problem paying 20p to use the bathroom in the train stations, provided that it wa
30 ME AVN FAN : - The could place a kind of small tree at the end of the cabin ....................... !
31 Ruirui : What arsehole made up this O'Leary story.....the mans a genius, but it also takes a genius to recognise one. Now if you had said BMI were charging 50p
32 Palladium : hahaha funny but hey in Indonesia, you have to pay like Rp. 1,000.00 to use toilet in the mal, shopping center. 1 U$D = Rp 10,370.00 so Rp 1,000.00 is
33 Gary2880 : There are a couple I remember using, you get some nice framed pictures of a panda and a pot plant for your money, that's a classy bog. indeed a bit nu
34 JAGflyer : If this is Ryanair they have officially became "The Worst Airline I have heard of and will never fly". Mr. O'Leary, you can go fu*k yourself, no one w
35 ACdreamliner : I HATE paying for toilets. When you got to go, you got to go. I would never fly with an Airline that did not provide toilets... Maybe RyanAir will hav
36 Post contains images Aseem : there is only so much they can hold. What happens when the pilot has to Go? We might see flights being delayed as one of the F/As was in terminal's l
37 Post contains images BR715-A1-30 : Yeah, but think of all the innocent blokes sitting next to you... Why would you want to torture them because of this asshole
38 JAGflyer : For those in Europe or anyone that have experienced pay-to-use washroom, do you find them cleaner? I'd think the cost of paying would filter out some
39 Flybyguy : Charging For Toilets On Board? Hell no... not unless that airline wants one of my freshly baked, steaming chocolate buns in their seat back pockets.
40 Zippyjet : God forbid if my company did this! I'd be ashamed to say I work for a company that charges you a fee to use the crapper in flight. Hell, if I flew on
41 ChrisNH : If airlines charged to use the toilets, you can be sure they'd give you the whole can of Coke...and another...and another...and another. Chris in NH
42 Zippyjet : Don't forget unlimited cat piss coffee and plenty of cheap beer! LOL!
43 Post contains images HighFlyer9790 : Sorry, but I don't want to feel warm liquid hitting my feet from the seat behind me just because that person is a cheapskate...
44 AC777LR : Well if they are going with out wash rooms might as well just go with out seats and just have Standing room only. Make it like the Subway in the air.
45 Tranceport : If an airline were to charge me to use the toilet on a flight, in all honesty I would stay in my seat, piss into a cup, ring a flight attendant call b
46 AMSGOT : I think paid public toilets are relatively clean here. I'm glad to pay about € 0,25 (average price) and be able to be in a clean environment, then
47 Jafa39 : 20p to use the loo? I was looking at flights to edinburgh via dublin 20p to use the loo would double the fare!!!
48 Post contains images OHLHD : The idea itself is not bad, but you need somebody to watch the toilets after it was used, as certain groups of people in this world have no idea how t
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