Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
MSY Now Back Open, Sort Of..  
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7739 times:

MSY has now re-opened, using runway 01/19, but with major restrictions...

Prior permission is required (PPR) by calling a certain phone number...

Tower is staffed by a single person...

Daylight ops only...

No radar service available, VMC only ops...

All of the above should permit relief ops, but it's going to be a good while before passenger service can be resumed....

68 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineFDXMECH From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7732 times:

Good news. I was wondering about the status of MSY, as the news wasn't saying much about it, that I've heard anyway. Now the nation can concentrate its energy into rebuilding the stricken area's.


You're only as good as your last departure.
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7667 times:

One thing I have yet to hear is how flooding is elsewhere on the airport. They obviously have sufficient taxiways to use 01/19, but I'm wondering about other taxiways, as well as ramp and parking areas. There could be quite a few relief aircraft there in the coming days/weeks.

Depending whether or not the airport has electric power, fuel availability is also an unknown. Hope the fuel tarm isn't under water...


User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7577 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Don't forget, with the flooding in the rest of the area, there's a very real chance they can get supplies into MSY, but not off the airport grounds into the city other than by helicopter.

At least this will allow stockpiling and logistical operations somewhat closer than two states away, which will be invaluable in the recovery effort.

- litz


User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7554 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 2):
They obviously have sufficient taxiways to use 01/19, but I'm wondering about other taxiways, as well as ramp and parking areas. There could be quite a few relief aircraft there in the coming days/weeks.

Runway 1/19 is 7001'; enough to get a C-5 or C-17 loaded with supplies in there from the military side.


User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7504 times:

Quoting Litz (Reply 3):
Don't forget, with the flooding in the rest of the area, there's a very real chance they can get supplies into MSY, but not off the airport grounds into the city other than by helicopter.

Are you kidding? Big grin All of my relatives in LA, that are not there of course, al have boats. I am sure they can find many flat bottoms, air boats, etc., that can reach many areas.

This is wonderful news as I was reading about people looting stores for drinks, diapers, food, and even jewelry!



Propeller, we don't need no stinkin propeller
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7497 times:

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 4):

Runway 1/19 is 7001'; enough to get a C-5 or C-17 loaded with supplies in there from the military side.

Wasn't questioning that, just wondered if taxiways -other- than those associated with 01/19 were available...


User currently offlineMarkus From United States of America, joined May 1999, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7468 times:

At the moment there is an AA 757 enroute from DFW to MSY...AAL9200. Its presently 40 miles out...

User currently offlineKanebear From United States of America, joined May 2002, 953 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7436 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 2):
One thing I have yet to hear is how flooding is elsewhere on the airport. They obviously have sufficient taxiways to use 01/19, but I'm wondering about other taxiways, as well as ramp and parking areas. There could be quite a few relief aircraft there in the coming days/weeks.

Depending whether or not the airport has electric power, fuel availability is also an unknown. Hope the fuel tarm isn't under water...

Once I-10 gets cleared up from the west that'll make it easier to get things into MSY. Fortunately, the Atchafalaya River Basin bridge didn't take damage. The problem will be getting in or out from east of the city... I-10 is a major artery down here, the Lake Ponchartrain Causeway being out is going to be a MAJOR problem for months to come. I just hope and pray it's not years.

Good job on getting MSY open and god speed to everyone there.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7419 times:

Quoting Markus (Reply 7):
At the moment there is an AA 757 enroute from DFW to MSY...AAL9200. Its presently 40 miles out...

I'm assuming it's carrying relief supplies and personnel? I've been told all commercial ops to MSY will be cancelled at least through Sept. 6.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7385 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting Jtamu97 (Reply 5):
Are you kidding? Big grin All of my relatives in LA, that are not there of course, al have boats. I am sure they can find many flat bottoms, air boats, etc., that can reach many areas.

Flat-bottom boats or air boats are pretty much all you can use. There's so much crap in (and under) the water that anything with a propellor gets too easily fouled.

Some of the power lines they snag on are actually still LIVE, that has to be an unhappy situation ...

- litz


User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7359 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 6):
Wasn't questioning that, just wondered if taxiways -other- than those associated with 01/19 were available...

Who said you were questioning it? I was providing more information...


User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7280 times:

Not showing any limited opening at the different news outlets. Yahoo and a few others are still showing the airport closed.


Sean from MCO and MKE



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7263 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 12):
Not showing any limited opening at the different news outlets. Yahoo and a few others are still showing the airport closed.

You'll have to trust me...  Wink

(The media isn't always exactly in the loop...)


User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7220 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

AA 9200 :

    Airline American
    Flight Number 9200
    Departure City (Airport) Dallas, TX (DFW)
    Departure Time 08/30/2005 02:51 PM
    Arrival City (Airport) New Orleans, LA (MSY)
    Arrival Time 08/30/2005 03:54 PM
    Remaining Flight Time 00:00
    Aircraft Type Boeing 757-200
    Current Altitude 0 feet
    Current Groundspeed 0 mph
    Flight Status Landed


They're not spending the night, either :

    Airline American
    Flight Number 9201
    Departure City (Airport) New Orleans, LA (MSY)
    Departure Time 08/30/2005 05:11 PM
    Arrival City (Airport) Dallas, TX (DFW)
    Arrival Time 08/30/2005 06:18 PM
    Remaining Flight Time 01:07 (planned)
    Aircraft Type Boeing 757-200
    Current Altitude 0 feet
    Current Groundspeed 0 mph
    Flight Status Planned


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7201 times:

Quoting Litz (Reply 14):
They're not spending the night, either :

Not surprising--what a bummer it would be to park it and have the water level go back up overnight and float a perfectly good 757 away...


User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7199 times:

I imagine everything's going to need roundtrip fuel onboard too..

User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7190 times:

I know the news in Houston was talking about flying various helicopters over to New Orleans to help, starting today.

As a side note nearly all of the over 55,000 Houston metro hotels are booked and there are 3 big shelters for Hurricane folks as well, just in Houston. Beaumont, Lake Charles, Birmingham, and others are all packed as well, it is insane-good luck to them all.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, Yankee Air Pirate


User currently offlineDeltaGuy767 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7142 times:

Quoting Litz (Reply 14):
AA 9200 :


Airline American
Flight Number 9200
Departure City (Airport) Dallas, TX (DFW)
Departure Time 08/30/2005 02:51 PM
Arrival City (Airport) New Orleans, LA (MSY)
Arrival Time 08/30/2005 03:54 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type Boeing 757-200
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Landed


They're not spending the night, either :


Airline American
Flight Number 9201
Departure City (Airport) New Orleans, LA (MSY)
Departure Time 08/30/2005 05:11 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Dallas, TX (DFW)
Arrival Time 08/30/2005 06:18 PM
Remaining Flight Time 01:07 (planned)
Aircraft Type Boeing 757-200
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Planned

I'm just wondering where did you get this information?

From BDL,
DeltaGuy767



A Good Landing is one you walk away from!
User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7108 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy767 (Reply 18):
I'm just wondering where did you get this information?

http://www.flytecomm.com/cgi-bin/trackflight

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/08/30/airport.status/index.html


User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6952 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 19):
I'm just wondering where did you get this information?

From BDL,
DeltaGuy767

Off Flytecomm.com ... it's a little tricky, essentially I put in MSY as the destination in the advanced search box, then scrolled down the massive list of "scheduled" flights that never left the ground, for the one flight marked "landed" ...  Smile

Figuring the return flight was the same flight # +1, yielded the return flight.

Anyone know if they were bringing supplies in, or evac'ing airport personnel out?

That had to have given the people there hope, though, seeing that big silver bird fly overhead ...

- litz


User currently offlineNbgskygod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 791 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6670 times:

There is also NAS JRB New Orleans (KNBG) with a 10,000' long runway depending on what the status is on that (I haven't heard from my friends what is going on down there) I imagine that will become the biggest site of relief efforts.


"I use multi-billion dollar military satellite systems to find tupperware in the woods."
User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5739 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 13):
You'll have to trust me...

I think, to be completely honest, that you are one of the few people on this board I trust implicitly with provided information.  Wink

I am glad they can get the mercy planes in there. More power to them.



For some, the sky is the limit. For us, it is only the beginning... -- Jack Hunt
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5692 times:

Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 22):
I think, to be completely honest, that you are one of the few people on this board I trust implicitly with provided information.

Thank you, sir...  Wink


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5681 times:

Quoting Nbgskygod (Reply 21):
There is also NAS JRB New Orleans (KNBG) with a 10,000' long runway depending on what the status is on that (I haven't heard from my friends what is going on down there) I imagine that will become the biggest site of relief efforts.

FYI,
NBG is on the BRAC list. I know that doesn't automatically mean that it will close but I can assure you if it does have extensive damage, that will be the end for sure.


MSY Flight info:
3 Planned Arrivals
(blocked) B190 PQL (blocked)
07:14 AM CDT (1214Z)

N11 BE20 FTW FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION
10:07 AM CDT (1507Z)

SWA8504 B737 DAL SOUTHWEST AIRLINES CO. (SAN ANTONIO, TX)
11:10 AM CDT (1610Z)


3 Planned Departures
(blocked) B190 PQL (blocked)
07:30 AM CDT (1230Z)

LN205CM C560 MGM (unknown owner)
10:00 AM CDT (1500Z)

SWA8505 B737 DAL SOUTHWEST AIRLINES CO. (SAN ANTONIO, TX)
04:00 PM CDT (2100Z)


1 Arriving Flight
LN205CM C560 CLT CHARLOTTE/DOUGLAS INTL 79 08:39 AM CDT (1339Z)


No Departing Aircraft


25 Typhaerion : No, thank you for being so reliable... And does WN have anyone left in that area now that the mandatory full evacuation of New Orleans has been order
26 Greenguy01 : Where did you guys get this info?? I tried flytecomm and I couldn't find anything....
27 Bicoastal : My neighbor ramper with United at Dulles told me that United flew in employees...rampers and CSRs to MSY from other stations/hubs to work flights and
28 Hiflyer : FYI CNN just announced FEMA is installing themselves at the airport and setting up a hospital and other funcitions in the terminal. I would suggest th
29 Tsnamm : CO plans to send a relief flight from IAH in today to help re-secure our areas and bring supplies of food and water to our co-workers...not sure when
30 LY4XELD : I can confirm we had our 757, N631AA, fly into MSY yesterday evening and left a short time later. Don't have any info on what they were doing there.
31 Bicoastal : My neighbor just sent me this from United's website: ---------------------------------------------------- Chairman's Response to Hurricane Katrina ---
32 DAYflyer : I wonder what possible role Ft Polk could play in helping with relief efforts for sheltering stranded people? I also wonder if they are using the old
33 Hiflyer : Airport Director says 2 months for normal commerical flights and that until then flights will be humanitarian and coodinated with FEMA and other agenc
34 Litz : Looks like Southwest's relief flight was staged last night, from Houston to Dallas, prior to leaving for New Orleans later this morning ... Airline So
35 N702ML : Hey all.... Speaing of MSY.... Lets keep MSYTriStar in our thoughts. He is a pretty loyal a.net poster who usually has something intellingent or intri
36 Levg79 : According to CNN, MSY will not be open to regular commercial flights for about 2 months. They say only special flights will be allowed.
37 Ilsapproach : Let's also not forget another regular A.net poster .........................Tom @MSY. He's quite regular here too. Thoughts and prayers to all in the
38 Ctbarnes : Another person to remember in particular is Tom in NO. He's probably got his hands full right now, but if by chance you do stop by A.net, please know
39 Post contains links Maiznblu_757 : http://www.fboweb.com I have the pay service. Unlimted basic flight tracking only cost $9.95 a month.
40 UAXDXer : I see SWA8504 DAL-MSY on the flight tracker right now. I assume this is hauling FEMA workers. Anyone at SWA have nay more details?
41 OPNLguy : Tristar is in Nachez, Tom is in West Monroe, both are safe...
42 Litz : I saw that too, but when you clicked on the actual flight #, none of the flight segments listed actually went to new orleans. I suspect it was a many
43 Post contains links UAXDXer : here are some pics i found on the net of some nav-aides in the New Orleans area http://techopscsa.asw.faa.gov/Templates/HurricanePictures.cfm
44 OPNLguy : It's carrying food and water, and other supplies for the airport for sure, but I don't don't about any FEMA folks. Wouldn't surprise me though.
45 Squirrel83 : These are the only schedualed flights in/out of MSY Times are 11:52 arrival at MSY, and Departure is 15:59 Although there are other civil aircraft th
46 OPNLguy : The news just had video of Air Force One making multiple low-altitude passes over New Orleans on their way CNW-ADW. I presume they did also along the
47 Litz : That link doesn't work; perhaps it's an internal network link? FBOWeb also had a couple of small Beechcraft flights listed, which were apparently FAA
48 UAXDXer : It is, my apologies. I'll see if I can get them posted here.
49 Post contains links LY4XELD : Got info on the AA flight on Tuesday: http://www.nbc5i.com/travelgetaways/4919490/detail.html
50 N1120A : I saw pictures of a perfectly dry DL Concourse D ramp, so I am thinking that they have been able to clear off most of the ramp area to allow aircraft
51 Ctbarnes : Good news. Thanks, OPNL! Charles, SJ
52 Litz : " target=_blank>http://www.nbc5i.com/travelgetaways/....html Well, it make sense ... there's no point in flying an empty plane into there, and those p
53 OPNLguy : Actually, from what I understood, 10-28 was ahead of schedule and done. The only thing un-done was the levee and railroad work west of the airport. H
54 B707Stu : Where are the military hercules aircraft to airlift everyone. I just don't see a major response from government. I guess they're all in Iraq? Makes me
55 Jtamu97 : B707, I agree, guess they were waiting on Bush to get back from vacation. It sickens me that we (the governent) will help people all around the world
56 Tjwgrr : Lots of planning needs to take place- just can't start bringing in C-17's, C-130's, and C-5's loaded with all kinds of relief supplies if there's no
57 AirWest : NW is trying to gain approval to fly a flight to MSY with supplies and to evacuate the remaining NW employees in MSY who have little amounts of food a
58 UAXDXer : Actually I saw a C-130 not to mention flights from SWA, NWA, and COA in bound to MSY today on the flight tracker, I'm sure loaded with supplys and wo
59 Litz : From what I understand, the disaster plans didn't take into account the catastrophic damage to the highway infrastructure ... it's left a heckuva lot
60 N1120A : Really? That is pretty amazing. I saw the X's lit up last weekend when I went to both pick up and drop off my girlfriend at MSY. Too bad it will be a
61 TCFC424 : You criticize the "lack of support" by our government, however realize things didn't get "bad" in NOLA until Tuesday morning when the levees broke and
62 OPNLguy : MSY now had temporary lighting set-up for 01-19, and also have the navaids back. Radar too... I also heard that one of the jetways is over on its side
63 Panaman : I got an email from MSYTristar today. They are leaving to go to DEN from Natchez, Ms. F9 will be letting him work there for 2 or so months. No word on
64 OPNLguy : The Naval Air Station at New Orleans (NBG) is back in business. That shoudl help relief efforts.... KNBG NEW ORLEANS NAS JRB/ALVIN CALLENDER FIELD/ [B
65 UA772IAD : I understand MSY is also a major triage area, where people who need medical help are being taken. Whose transporting patients to other hospitals? Tula
66 OPNLguy : Based on what I'm seeing on CNN and Fox New, just about everybody are taking just about anybody just about any place...
67 OPNLguy : Tom in NO mentioned in another thread that MSY has now been re-opened for freighter traffic, and that it will be re-opened to passenger traffic on 9/1
68 UAXDXer : I'm guessing that all the majors will resume service on the 15th with a reduced schedule, mostly running relief workers and government officals in an
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Some Sort Of Pension Relief Expected posted Thu Jul 20 2006 06:44:53 by ArtieFufkin
Concorde Flies Again! - Sort Of posted Sun Jan 22 2006 21:08:36 by Boeing Nut
The Trans-con RJ Has (sort Of) Arrived posted Sun Jun 5 2005 04:34:45 by MAH4546
Tomorrow Open Veiwing Of New Terminal At SEA posted Sat Jun 4 2005 02:20:43 by Squirrel83
New Etihad A330 Flies Today (sort Of) posted Wed Feb 9 2005 21:29:47 by RobK
New SWA Theme Jet, Sort Of... posted Wed Apr 14 2004 23:10:41 by OPNLguy
Gulfstream Line Expanding Again - Sort Of posted Mon Mar 1 2004 17:45:40 by Boeing nut
Wal-Mart Does Have An Air Line ... Sort Of posted Thu Jan 29 2004 01:12:46 by MD-90
The End Of Tango........ Well Sort Of posted Fri Aug 15 2003 23:58:41 by Spyderz
Ever Caused A Go Around? I Have..sort Of posted Mon Jul 28 2003 07:55:05 by Ual747