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Flying Hospitals To Hurricane Ground Zero?  
User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1947 times:


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Will these birds hit Hurricane Katrina ground zero? The Gulf coast region?
Our hearts go out to everyone in this unprecendented area of destruction.


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

The USN has dispatched the Hospital ship, USNS Comfort to the Gulf Coast. I doubt these airplanes will go to Mobil or new Orleans.

As usual, the US is awaiting offers of help from the UN, EU or the rest of the world. I guess the phone hasn't rung yet.

The Mayor of NO said he has 1000s of dead in the Big Easy. The death toll is unconfirmed.

Air Force 1 flew low level today over the hurrican area, so President Bush can view the devistation.


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

As I recall, the flying hospital(s) haven't been used in some time.. Perhaps this is erronious?

Chris



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):


As usual, the US is awaiting offers of help from the UN, EU or the rest of the world. I guess the phone hasn't rung yet.

It never has and never will.


User currently offlineHZ747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
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I hope the doctors refuse to treat anyone who was shot, or hurt, while attempting to loot businesses. There should be plenty of legitimately hurt and maimed people to keep them busy for a while.


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

The 'Orbis' DC-10 is for optical surgery for optic nurve damage and glacoma, so what good it would be I don't know.

The 'Flying Hospital' L-1011 is no longer in service.



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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting HZ747300 (Reply 4):
I hope the doctors refuse to treat anyone who was shot, or hurt, while attempting to loot businesses.

Agreed-

Plus, imagine the beautiful 19th century mansions full of antique treasures, now just waiting for the looters to come...


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1909 times:
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Lots of countries are offering to help

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050831/...u=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

The Luftwaffe has a few Airbus A310MRT aircraft that could come in handy.


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User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 2):
As I recall, the flying hospital(s) haven't been used in some time.. Perhaps this is erronious?

Chris

I believe, when DL retired the last of their L1011's, they had a big adoo regarding the conversion to a hospital from pure passenger transport. I'm not sure if DL donated the planes but, I remember seeing it on A-Net at ATL.



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User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1894 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):
The 'Orbis' DC-10 is for optical surgery for optic nurve damage and glacoma, so what good it would be I don't know.

The 'Flying Hospital' L-1011 is no longer in service.

It's got medical equipment. So, at least for triage and for stuff like cuts, and pumping up people with IV glucose so they don't fall out from heat prostration/dehydration. Now, sadly its any port in a storm. Plus, these birds could be pressed into service to transport victims as well as act as surgical facilities.



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User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1869 times:

Quoting Zippyjet (Thread starter):
Will these birds hit Hurricane Katrina ground zero?

Why?

The flying hospitals are teaching hospitals that have only one surgical suite each. You could use the same fuel and ramp space to fly in the initial portion of a portable hospital ( a MASH if you will) with three or four surgical suites each. ... and you know what? That's exactly whats going on at MSY now...


User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
As usual, the US is awaiting offers of help from the UN, EU or the rest of the world. I guess the phone hasn't rung yet.

Well, we've offered help, but FEMA said they were capable to handle the operation themselves. So, sorry guys, no Dutch KDC-10's on the way with relief materials.

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21462 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 3):
It never has

Wrong. Disaster relief aid is routinely offered by, to and among the western industrialized nations. But in many cases external help is either not needed or not accepted.

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 3):
and never will.

Also wrong. Katrina has been no exception to the rule - and it will probably be no exception in that most of the external help will be refused again.

No hard feelings about that - it´s just normal to offer help and it´s equally normal to not use the offered help if it´s not necessary.

Tornado, I actually pity you for your hopeless and above all false view of the world. The good news is that the outside world isn´t nearly as evil as you seem to presume.

Right now a pragmatic approach is needed - ideology makes even less sense now than it does at the best of times. Hate and distrust doesn´t give food or shelter to anyone.


User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

Klaus - Hear Hear

Pathetic comments to make....



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User currently offlineDevil505x From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):
The 'Flying Hospital' L-1011 is no longer in service.

What happened to it?


User currently offlineHZ747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1572 times:
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Doesn't the navy have a hospital ship they can chopper people too? Probably more than hospital related goods, they need clean drinking water and food. Sounds like a job for the Army Corps of Engineers.

Regarding the refusals of foreign aid, I think the US is right in denying it. Not as a rude gesture, but instead, the US should rely on itself to repair, rebuild, and recover. The aid offered by Americans friends and allies should be reserved for those countries that while require serious aid and do not have the means to fully repair themselves.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9376 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1535 times:

indeed help was offered but not accepted so far. Germany has technical assistance staff standing by. I could image that the US could even provide transport with C17 from Ramstein or Spanngdahlem AB. There must be some empty ferry flights staging through these airbases from the Middle East.

We could lend water purificatuion plants and if the US requests the Medevac A310 Germany will send it.

Having been in Biloxi last year in May, seen all these beautiful places from Bay St Charkes to Pascagoula I am shocked at the devastation. Even with the massive ressources the United States have it is obvious that the magnitude of the destruction is even to much for the US. There should be no wrong poride when people are sufferung.

A lot of donations from German people are made already and there will be more to come. And that is nothing pathetic.

.



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1534 times:

Quoting HZ747300 (Reply 4):
I hope the doctors refuse to treat anyone who was shot, or hurt, while attempting to loot businesses. There should be plenty of legitimately hurt and maimed people to keep them busy for a while.

your attitude is understandable but not very humane. The hoippocratic oath rightly requires medical personnel to treat EVERYONE. Patch them up, lock them up, give them a scrupulously fair trial. and then hang them.

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 3):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):


As usual, the US is awaiting offers of help from the UN, EU or the rest of the world. I guess the phone hasn't rung yet.

It never has and never will.

Pfft. Klaus says it best.

Quoting HZ747300 (Reply 16):

Regarding the refusals of foreign aid, I think the US is right in denying it. Not as a rude gesture, but instead, the US should rely on itself to repair, rebuild, and recover. The aid offered by Americans friends and allies should be reserved for those countries that while require serious aid and do not have the means to fully repair themselves.

This makes no sense. If the expertise to save people is more readily available from another country, why not go for it?



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User currently offline380ORD From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1406 times:

see topic posted on 9/14 on P-MED--Tuscon--for sale-still equipped for opthalmic surgery-classroom and clinic -has a lift gate or collapsible stairs i think- does anyone know it's airworthy status?

I have a CD on it-a virtual tour--how do i post it?

sorry about starting a new thread on an old subject--still new to forum

cheers

larry USA-midwest-o'hare fan


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