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Spirit To Fly To DFW  
User currently offlineLawnDart From United States of America, joined May 2005, 970 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

From their website:

"Spirit Airlines announces new service from Dallas Fort Worth International Airport starting January 10, 2006 to its hub in Fort Lauderdale, Florida with convenient connections to the Caribbean, the Bahamas and Latin America.

To celebrate this new service, Spirit is having an introductory fare sale. Take advantage of these incredibly low fares from only $99* each way while you can. You must hurry - fares must booked on spiritair.com by September 30, 2005"

Another once-daily flight to connect with their FLL hub operation. I wonder if choosing cities that have service to most of the Caribbean destinations (like ATL) already is a good way to use their resources.

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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

What is Spirit trying to do, offer a single daily flight to each of the Legacy's prime hub at the hopes of trying to attract pax for their Caribbean flights out of MIA? Okay, DFW doesn't have as many Caribbean destinations as ATL does, but Spirit is in for another fight.

User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

Never count out an airline that makes a living on an average fare of $84 between LGA and FLL. Spirit has always been an enigma to me.

User currently offlineDeltaFFinDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

Spirit is the "Wright" way to fly to FLL

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050901/15577.html?.v=1


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2920 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

Spirit has also announced service to PLS and STT from FLL today:

PLS: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050901/15571.html?.v=1

STT: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050901/15572.html?.v=1


User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3303 times:

ok...the thinking I believe is:
The more planes from FLL to the Caribbean, the more planes at FLL...the more planes at FLL the more they have to RON at FLL...there is no room to RON at FLL...so they have to fly it elsewhere. Why not pick a couple of bucks up in the process!


User currently offlineKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3294 times:

That is good thinking Flairport. With the flight leaving DFW so early in the morning, that would eliminate the need to RON the aircraft in FLL. AirTran is talking of reinstating their DFWFLL flight so there must be demand for the route.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32689 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3221 times:

As FLAIRPORT said, and as I've said many times before, Spirit has no place to put planes overnight, so why not send them somewhere else? This is why they are starting FLL-DFW/ATL/MCO/TPA. All four markets have a healthy amount of traffic to the Caribbean, and Spirit is aiming at tapping into that by offering them cheap Caribbean service. The money on these flights is going to be coming from those connecting passengers, while they can dump cheap seats for local traffic to fill up the rest of the plane. They have very little to lose, and Delta/American are best left leaving them alone. With only one daily flight each to Atlanta and Dallas, it is quite clear they aren't trying to "mess with the big boys" in stealing local traffic.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 4):
Spirit has also announced service to PLS and STT from FLL today:

PLS: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050901/15571.html?.v=1

Not just PLS. Spirit will also be flying to GDT (Grand Turk), the only non-stop service between the United States and GDT, and the first since Bahamasair ended MIA-GDT a few years ago. FLL-PLS-FLL 5x a week and FLL-GDT-PLS-FLL 2x a week.

And Grand Cayman should be announced soon, with Mexico City coming in June 2006. Also, *rumours* (and nothing more, so take it for what it's worth) are that they will be heading to Freeport, Cozumel, Port of Spain, San Jose (Cosa Rica), and Pittsburgh in 2006. And look for Tampa-Nassau soon.



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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5048 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3182 times:

I just wonder how much more attention the FLL airport can handle before it turns into LGA South?


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User currently offlineJlp12345 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

Does anyone know how many gates NK uses at FLL?

User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2661 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3004 times:

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 8):
I just wonder how much more attention the FLL airport can handle before it turns into LGA South?

I do believe that FLL is already the most delayed airport in the nation per the DOT.

Quoting Jlp12345 (Reply 9):
Does anyone know how many gates NK uses at FLL?

Right now, I believe we have 10 in H terminal, although they are common use with int'l flights on AC, etc. We have already outgrown the terminal, so I don't know if a move to another terminal will be forthcoming, but I hope so



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User currently offlineDolphinflyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 200 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

I'm gonna start calling Spirit the "One Flight Wonder". They're starting service to mega-hubs (ATL and DFW) with single, daily flights. Foolish, I think, as the competition will squash them with frequency/capacity and match their fares.

I really question the wisdom of these two announcements...


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32689 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2924 times:

Quoting Dolphinflyer (Reply 11):
I'm gonna start calling Spirit the "One Flight Wonder". They're starting service to mega-hubs (ATL and DFW) with single, daily flights. Foolish, I think, as the competition will squash them with frequency/capacity and match their fares.

Again, for the nth time, the flight is not desgined to cater to local traffic. Spirit is starting these flights for Caribbean traffic. More than one daily flight is not needed to cater to DFW-MBJ or ATL-PLS demand!



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User currently offlineN276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2885 times:

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 4):
Spirit has also announced service to PLS and STT

I am truely excited that Spirit is coming to St. Thomas. It's been great seeing the airlines start service to the island. The more the merrier! Welcome Spirit! I'd love to see JetBlue come in and compete with AA on the JFK route.



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User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2877 times:

Quoting Dolphinflyer (Reply 11):
I'm gonna start calling Spirit the "One Flight Wonder". They're starting service to mega-hubs (ATL and DFW) with single, daily flights. Foolish, I think, as the competition will squash them with frequency/capacity and match their fares.

I really question the wisdom of these two announcements...

I think B6 stole that title .. though our one flights arent into mega-hubs, we looove our one flight a day theme! JFK-PHX, JFK-PDX, JFK-SMF, JFK-PSE, JFK-STI, IAD-SMF, IAD-SAN, LGB-FLL, LGB-SLC, JFK-SLC .. any others im forgetting?  Smile


User currently offlineLawnDart From United States of America, joined May 2005, 970 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2701 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
As FLAIRPORT said, and as I've said many times before, Spirit has no place to put planes overnight, so why not send them somewhere else?

Although I understand that FLL may have facility constraints as far as NK is concerned, I doubt the reason they are flying half way across the country is because they couldn't find a piece of concrete at FLL to park a freakin' 319 overnight...

Spirit is adding service to connect with their Caribbean flights, and yes, they are hoping to pick up some local traffic as well. Maybe they're testing the waters for eventual additional flights, but I'm still a little baffled as to why they're adding service to ATL and DFW specifically...


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32689 posts, RR: 72
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

Quoting LawnDart (Reply 15):
Although I understand that FLL may have facility constraints as far as NK is concerned, I doubt the reason they are flying half way across the country is because they couldn't find a piece of concrete at FLL to park a freakin' 319 overnight...

It is one of the main reasons. Why have the plane sit in FLL and do nothing, when it can make money flying to DFW in the evening, and flying back in the morning?

Quoting LawnDart (Reply 15):
but I'm still a little baffled as to why they're adding service to ATL and DFW specifically...

Both are large cities of over 4M residents with good Caribbean demand and, in the case of DFW, limited Caribbean service.



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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Wow Spirit is REALLY expanding. First ATL, then DFW, STT, PLS, also then GDT, MEX, Freeport, P.O.S, San Jose (CR), and PIT.

That is 10 cities all being announced over next couple months. Wow Way to go NK.

Also having more FLL flights may hurt FLL with traffic (too many, way too many) having the planes flying to many more places will ease congestion down at Concourse H.

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User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

I'm just glad they are flying here to DFW so it will give us something else to photograph besides all of AA's planes.............hell I've gone digital and I still refuse to shoot AA's planes.........used to didn't want to waste film!  Smile

User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3412 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2640 times:

Once the last of the announced routes start, NK will need 10 gates in FLL to pull off the "bank" they have created. 10 flights arrive between 9:45am-10:15am from mainland stations (PVD, LGA, ACY, DCA, ATL, TPA, MCO, DTW, ORD, DFW) and then turn out the carribbean flights (NAS, PLS, STT, SJU, SDQ, KIN, MBJ, CUN). The other 2 aircraft turn back from FLL to DTW and ACY...

User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7513 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Quoting King (Reply 6):
AirTran is talking of reinstating their DFWFLL flight so there must be demand for the route.

When did FL drop its DFW-FLL route?

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 18):
I'm just glad they are flying here to DFW so it will give us something else to photograph besides all of AA's planes.............hell I've gone digital and I still refuse to shoot AA's planes.........used to didn't want to waste film!

You must have some real long waits between shoots.  Big grin



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User currently offlineBOS2LAF From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

In the article that was linked on yahoo news, they kept saying Spirit was the "Wright" way to FLL. Is this just a dig at WN or are they trying to imply something else?

User currently offlineFpofllflyboi From Bahamas, joined Jun 2005, 234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2582 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
And Grand Cayman should be announced soon, with Mexico City coming in June 2006. Also, *rumours* (and nothing more, so take it for what it's worth) are that they will be heading to Freeport, Cozumel, Port of Spain, San Jose (Cosa Rica), and Pittsburgh in 2006. And look for Tampa-Nassau soon.

Good for Freeport, they need jet service to FLL since Laker Bahamas ceased 727 operations.


User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5048 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Quoting BOS2LAF (Reply 21):

Is this just a dig at WN or are they trying to imply something else?

It's both! They're saying "yes we can offer the Metroplex low fares at DFW" and they're going about it the "Wright and legal way", no need to change the law.

[Edited 2005-09-02 16:10:26]


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User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2661 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2499 times:

Quoting BOS2LAF (Reply 21):
In the article that was linked on yahoo news, they kept saying Spirit was the "Wright" way to FLL. Is this just a dig at WN or are they trying to imply something else?

It's both.... although I do believe the Wright Amendment should be done away with.



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25 MAH4546 : Very quickly after it launched; did better than TPA-DFW, though. IIRC, that route never launched.
26 King : The DFW-FLL flight was a through flight from LAS. It was seasonal.
27 Commavia : IIRC, FL's DFW-FLL flight has now gone from "seasonal" to "never." FL discontinued the route after only a few months of operation, as MAH said.
28 757223 : Keep in mind Spirit has a MX facility in Fort Worth at Meacham Field, so MD-80's are rotating in and out of here quite often.
29 Amkruger : OK...so I am a JetBlue boy at heart...here is what I have to say about FLL...the increase of flight activity from multiple carriers at FLL will encour
30 Post contains images Fpofllflyboi : MAH4546, In every *rumour* there is an element of *truth* somewhere.
31 Nkops : that is true... I wonder if they will move that to DFW. Anyway, if you read the article on the DFW homepage, you will see that we are also getting $2
32 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : Nahh, that wouldn't be a good idea because when al their MD-80's are gone within the next 2/3 years then in the end it is just a waste of money. If t
33 King : I read something very interesting in DFW airport's "DFW people" newspaper dated September 8, 2005. As an incentive to begin service at DFW, the airpor
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