VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4652 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12787 times:
So it's going to Sydney? There had been a lot of talk that it would be coming to Brisbane rather than Sydney. I had been looking forward to seeing it. Oh well, I might have to make a trip down to Sydney.
Do you have a link to any source for this, or any more details?
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WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 67
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12744 times:
Quoting FCKC (Thread starter): F-WWOW will arrive at Sydney on Nov 16th to celebrate the 85th birthday of Qantas.Will make a stop at Singapore before.
Will arrive at Dubai for the show on Nov 20th , till 24th.
Maybe we could expect a follow on order for some more A380 from Qantas, at its birthday party.
BoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1610 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12650 times:
Quoting WINGS (Reply 2): Maybe we could expect a follow on order for some more A380 from Qantas, at its birthday party.
They may announce the 350/787 and 777/A340 RFP... but the A380, not so sure it will be done this soon. I am willing to bet if any follow up orders are made by QANTAS it will be when it has flown commercially and performance measures are met. The A380 still has some uncertainty that it won't meet performance targets and again it may not be substantiated but it can't be disregarded either due to the 6 month delay. Other than the Airbus test team no one knows whats going on.
Boeing767-300 From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 670 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12478 times:
Quoting BoogyJay (Reply 6): In this context (the program 6 month shift), it looks a bit like a "Sorry for the delay" Tour.
I think you are dead right here. Also I believe it will be the A380 publicity plus dead giveaway prices on A350. Airbus knows they are up against it with regard to 777/787 but I believe Qantas will end up with A350 just like the A330 already given away.
We know launch customers were given ridiculous prices on A380 and A350 will go the same way. Airbus is holding its own on A32x/737NG but it would appear to be struggling and discounting heavily in an attempt to stay competitive in the widebodys.
Basically Qantas wants 787/777 but will probably end up with Airbuses do to a price that nobody could refuse... time will tell.
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 6285 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12423 times:
Quoting 777ER (Reply 5): Since when was SYDs runway A380 ready?
Since about 1975! The A380 will be certified to use any runway certified for B747's. Depending on the airport there MAY be certian specific requirements such as structures with an absolute weight limit, rather than only a pavement limit. [AFAIK there are no such problems at SYD] There may also be operational requirments such as ensuring the sides of the runway are clear of causes for FOD to a greter width than normal.
Most so called A380 works on the runway/taxiways are for operational ease, rather than certification requirements.
BTW Since the revamp of the Airbus web site I cannot find the A380 airfield requirement manual! Anybody got a current link??
Breiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1982 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12312 times:
It is at the same time funny and tiring to read again and again on A-net that, when Airbus sales planes it must be due to large discounts, but when Boeing sales planes it is because they are so much better.
Can't everybody understand that selling airliners is a business with all the rules and tricks linled to any business.
And Airbus and Boeing are alike when it comes to deal with customers (even political supports are in hand on both sides).
QANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12267 times:
Quoting FCKC (Thread starter): F-WWOW will arrive at Sydney on Nov 16th to celebrate the 85th birthday of Qantas.
Yay - happy birthday QF. I must say, there's been next to nothing in terms of advertising this milestone. The 75th was a big thing - so it's nice to see that ten years on we'll have the future of long haul aviation: The A380, to celebrate with!
Quoting 777ER (Reply 5): Wonder how much SYD payed for the privilage of having the A380 before BNE or MEL
Heh, uh - you think Sydney Airports Corporation payed airbus to do this?
Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12186 times:
Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 4): The A380 still has some uncertainty that it won't meet performance targets and again it may not be substantiated but it can't be disregarded either due to the 6 month delay. Other than the Airbus test team no one knows whats going on.
FCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11853 times:
As BoogyJay said it's a "Sorry for the delay" tour.
Information provided by Air&Cosmos , which always gets the information from Airbus in exclusivity.
Not sure if the programm didn't experience some delays , the plane would have gone to Australia.
It has always been known that it will fly to Dubai for the show , being painted in EK color scheme , but now that it will visit QF and SQ , not sure this purpose will be done.
Why not painting "Merci Emirates , Qantas and Singapore" on the fuselage ?
Virginflyer , do not desesperate , it is mentionned Sydney for the birthday on Nov16th , but as it will arrive at Dubai on Nov20th , perhaps it will make a tour around Australia during these 4 days.Just a though.
Apuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3036 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10089 times:
Thanks for sharing the news...I had the chance to see it at LBG this year, but guess where I'll be on November 16th: yup, SYD indeed. What are the odds (well, I leave at 9AM but I still might catch it again)?
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